If you don’t like this genre, don’t even start watching it! Gosh
"You truly are an obnoxious person." hahaha Thanks for this. I laughed.
There are 9,522 comments in this thread. TWO of them, mine, are negative. No doubt, the other 9,520 comments are splendiferously positive, ecstatic even. But my two un-strong, not-at-all-witty comments are too much to bear? You are exceedingly insecure in your love for this show.
After I left my first comment, you came spreading "hatred and self-righteousness," telling me not to watch your beloved "genre." Please grow some self-awareness before engaging me further.
If you don’t like this genre, don’t even start watching it! Gosh
Why? Did my one comment ruin your view? :)
Genre-wise, I knew I found the Chinese "censored BL" stuff obnoxious, with its gay-but-not-really characters in garish silk caftans, casting meaningful glances at each other while triple-flipping through the air and slicing bad guys apart, tucking their nine fox tails or whatever between their legs as they go to be absurd, but didn't know that was what I was getting into, minus the caftans, when I started this.
But, I quickly discovered how awful it is and bailed. Sorry to upset you(!).
omg..."omegaverse," "knotting," "rutting," "in heat," "exiled," blahblahblah...? China can't show a decently realized, emotional and sexual gay relationship, but they can put together all this moronic pseudo-sexual silliness over 16 freakin' episodes and people not only watch it, but obsess over the minutiae of it all in comments below?
The answer, sadly, is yes.
Who watches this crazy, deeply stupid s**t? Reveal yourselves!
Changed my mind...I'm dumping this rather than attempting to watch it over time.
After watching two episodes, I thought about when I might go for number three today. Doing so felt like a chore to dread rather than a pleasure to look forward to. So yeah, the show is mostly bad, as are the vast majority of Thai BLs. If I want hot, gay making out and sex, I'll seek out feature films or porn.
Episode 2: Well, this isn't the worst Thai BL I've ever seen. I only have to FF through about a third of each episode. The make-out scenes are excellent. Those drawn-out pauses between lines of dialogue are crazy-making. Jun is so cute, I want to violate his every opening.
The endless workplace sexual harassment is wonderfully amusing and entertaining...no, no, I mean TERRIBLE! It is horrendous. The power imbalances are criminal!
well she's winning awards not you so I think that says a lot about who knows more about acting lol
"I’m not the one jumping on everyone’s comment here..." Newsflash: I'm the OP. Replying to replies to one's original comment is not considered unusual behavior, even on MDL. You should agree, seeing as you appeared here a month after comment/replies above, lathered up for battle.
I just re-read the comments above, including my own, in which I'm not the least bit "touchy" about my acting. Furthermore, I never used the term "acting career," as my acting has always been a side-gig for fun and passion, not a means to make a living. I implied nothing to the contrary. You made up "acting career," then snidely referred to something I never said as if I had. That happens a lot on MDL when the fankids get their panties in a twist.
The acting resume I present at auditions is far too long to share here, though I'm tempted to do so anyway. However, sharing it would buy into your silly line of BS that audience members are unqualified to have an opinion on the performances of actors, unless they have personally been a professional actor with at least as many credits as the actor they're criticizing. And as alluded to prior, that is BS. Silly BS.
A 20-year-old high school dropout with zero stage experience, and a 50-year-old housewife, and a 70-year-old famous actor with a magnificent resume, all get to say, "Dude, IU sucks as an actress."
At the same time, you get to say, "IU is the acting queen of the universe of all time and space and matter."
Ok tell me a thing actually am confused that when the egg second time broke sungmin stayed there for another 20…
Oh Lord, sorry, but I'd have to watch it a second time to be able to try to answer that question. Right now, I don't even know what you're talking about. lol I mostly remember that the plot was very odd in a good way.
Wow. This is the first Thai BL in about two and a half years that I haven't dropped during the first episode, except Gelboys, which had me in a constant state of appreciative annoyance. I disliked all the characters and the 24/7 hyper-shallow, internet/social media/mass consumption universe in which they lived, but admired much about the way their horror story was told, from visuals to dialogue to acting. It looked and felt like a feature film.
Back to My Stubborn: Love that within the first sixty seconds, it made clear what it was and where we were headed if we stuck around to watch. :) Love the unapologetic portrayals of sexual desire on display. Like the vibe between Sorn/Jun. Looking at them separately, I wouldn't have guessed they'd have this strong chemistry going on. You can't fake chemistry. Like the hilariously over-the-top sexual harassment in the workplace. lol. Hey, it happens in real life. Plus, you know, this is a FICTIONAL, comedic story. I'm guessing a lot of the MDL Puritan brigade is stressing out over this. Like that the Puritans are stressing out. Like the humorous bits so far. I haven't seen this raunchy, wink-and-nod approach to sex in a BL in a long time. During one of the restroom scenes, I flashed back to "Make It Right" and all the entertaining raunch in its first episode, from sore-butt-from-butt sex jokes, to explosive diarrhea from the previous night's love injections. Like this show, Make It Right had a fun, light-hearted, unapologetic perspective on fumbling, imperfect sexual interactions between human beings.
All that said, I'm seeing many of the quirks and embarrassingly lame elements that put me off Thai BLs in general: The production as a whole, but especially in the office scenes, has a high-school-kids-pretending-to-be-grownups-in-the-school-play vibe to it. Face powder applied with a fire extinguisher. Enough lip gloss and lipstick to graffiti all of downtown Bangkok. Dialogue delivered at a glacial pace and timber-stiff physicality from a lot of the supporting players, both of which are the director's fault. Boring, drawn-out side-character scenes that should have been cut or never written in the first place. Thank God for the FF function. No matter what I see him in, that Yoon dude annoys me. I think it's the tiny mouth and dull acting.
There's more, but that's enough bitching from me for now.
This has aired in its entirety, but I'm in no rush to binge it, as I would with shows I'm ecstatic over. But I'll enjoy returning to My Stubborn when I'm in the mood for more. :)
Very very realistic sex scenes. The sex positions and angles are very accurate and anatomatically correct. There…
ooh, OK, well your comment cinched the deal...I'm in for the watch. I've been reading comments to help me decide, as I'm very much not a fan of Thai BLs in general.
Why do you think of sex as "...filthy, raunchy stuff..?"Could you mention a couple shows you found filthy…
Love your last paragraph, especially. :) As George Michael sang, "Sex is natural, sex is fun..."
Thanks for replying.
And if you do think of some good shows that are 18+, please let me know. I'm with you: filthy and raunchy are good things. :D I am always on the lookout for quality BL and other gay content. I've made my way through the existing canon since discovering BL four years ago, and so few of the new ones are worth my time. Most come out of Thailand, of course, but I've written off that country as a resource. One terrible show after another. Quantity WAY over quality.
On edit: I forgot to mention that I agree the sex scene in Stay With Me...is terrible/awful/wooden/unconvincing. I blame the director. Someone has issues with gay love and sexuality.
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Thanks for this. I laughed.
There are 9,522 comments in this thread. TWO of them, mine, are negative. No doubt, the other 9,520 comments are splendiferously positive, ecstatic even. But my two un-strong, not-at-all-witty comments are too much to bear? You are exceedingly insecure in your love for this show.
After I left my first comment, you came spreading "hatred and self-righteousness," telling me not to watch your beloved "genre." Please grow some self-awareness before engaging me further.
Genre-wise, I knew I found the Chinese "censored BL" stuff obnoxious, with its gay-but-not-really characters in garish silk caftans, casting meaningful glances at each other while triple-flipping through the air and slicing bad guys apart, tucking their nine fox tails or whatever between their legs as they go to be absurd, but didn't know that was what I was getting into, minus the caftans, when I started this.
But, I quickly discovered how awful it is and bailed. Sorry to upset you(!).
Gosh
2/10
China can't show a decently realized, emotional and sexual gay relationship, but they can put together all this moronic pseudo-sexual silliness over 16 freakin' episodes and people not only watch it, but obsess over the minutiae of it all in comments below?
The answer, sadly, is yes.
Who watches this crazy, deeply stupid s**t? Reveal yourselves!
Dropped like a dry, crusty, week-old cum rag.
1/10
After watching two episodes, I thought about when I might go for number three today. Doing so felt like a chore to dread rather than a pleasure to look forward to. So yeah, the show is mostly bad, as are the vast majority of Thai BLs. If I want hot, gay making out and sex, I'll seek out feature films or porn.
This thing is officially dropped.
2/10
Well, this isn't the worst Thai BL I've ever seen. I only have to FF through about a third of each episode.
The make-out scenes are excellent.
Those drawn-out pauses between lines of dialogue are crazy-making.
Jun is so cute, I want to violate his every opening.
The endless workplace sexual harassment is wonderfully amusing and entertaining...no, no, I mean TERRIBLE! It is horrendous. The power imbalances are criminal!
3/10
Newsflash: I'm the OP. Replying to replies to one's original comment is not considered unusual behavior, even on MDL. You should agree, seeing as you appeared here a month after comment/replies above, lathered up for battle.
I just re-read the comments above, including my own, in which I'm not the least bit "touchy" about my acting. Furthermore, I never used the term "acting career," as my acting has always been a side-gig for fun and passion, not a means to make a living. I implied nothing to the contrary. You made up "acting career," then snidely referred to something I never said as if I had. That happens a lot on MDL when the fankids get their panties in a twist.
The acting resume I present at auditions is far too long to share here, though I'm tempted to do so anyway. However, sharing it would buy into your silly line of BS that audience members are unqualified to have an opinion on the performances of actors, unless they have personally been a professional actor with at least as many credits as the actor they're criticizing. And as alluded to prior, that is BS. Silly BS.
A 20-year-old high school dropout with zero stage experience, and a 50-year-old housewife, and a 70-year-old famous actor with a magnificent resume, all get to say, "Dude, IU sucks as an actress."
At the same time, you get to say, "IU is the acting queen of the universe of all time and space and matter."
See how it works, IU fan-person?
Sorry I can't help. Maybe someone else here can.
This is the first Thai BL in about two and a half years that I haven't dropped during the first episode, except Gelboys, which had me in a constant state of appreciative annoyance. I disliked all the characters and the 24/7 hyper-shallow, internet/social media/mass consumption universe in which they lived, but admired much about the way their horror story was told, from visuals to dialogue to acting. It looked and felt like a feature film.
Back to My Stubborn:
Love that within the first sixty seconds, it made clear what it was and where we were headed if we stuck around to watch. :)
Love the unapologetic portrayals of sexual desire on display.
Like the vibe between Sorn/Jun. Looking at them separately, I wouldn't have guessed they'd have this strong chemistry going on. You can't fake chemistry.
Like the hilariously over-the-top sexual harassment in the workplace. lol. Hey, it happens in real life. Plus, you know, this is a FICTIONAL, comedic story.
I'm guessing a lot of the MDL Puritan brigade is stressing out over this.
Like that the Puritans are stressing out.
Like the humorous bits so far. I haven't seen this raunchy, wink-and-nod approach to sex in a BL in a long time. During one of the restroom scenes, I flashed back to "Make It Right" and all the entertaining raunch in its first episode, from sore-butt-from-butt sex jokes, to explosive diarrhea from the previous night's love injections.
Like this show, Make It Right had a fun, light-hearted, unapologetic perspective on fumbling, imperfect sexual interactions between human beings.
All that said, I'm seeing many of the quirks and embarrassingly lame elements that put me off Thai BLs in general:
The production as a whole, but especially in the office scenes, has a high-school-kids-pretending-to-be-grownups-in-the-school-play vibe to it.
Face powder applied with a fire extinguisher.
Enough lip gloss and lipstick to graffiti all of downtown Bangkok.
Dialogue delivered at a glacial pace and timber-stiff physicality from a lot of the supporting players, both of which are the director's fault.
Boring, drawn-out side-character scenes that should have been cut or never written in the first place. Thank God for the FF function.
No matter what I see him in, that Yoon dude annoys me. I think it's the tiny mouth and dull acting.
There's more, but that's enough bitching from me for now.
This has aired in its entirety, but I'm in no rush to binge it, as I would with shows I'm ecstatic over. But I'll enjoy returning to My Stubborn when I'm in the mood for more. :)
Thanks!
Thanks for replying.
And if you do think of some good shows that are 18+, please let me know. I'm with you: filthy and raunchy are good things. :D I am always on the lookout for quality BL and other gay content. I've made my way through the existing canon since discovering BL four years ago, and so few of the new ones are worth my time. Most come out of Thailand, of course, but I've written off that country as a resource. One terrible show after another. Quantity WAY over quality.
On edit: I forgot to mention that I agree the sex scene in Stay With Me...is terrible/awful/wooden/unconvincing. I blame the director. Someone has issues with gay love and sexuality.