When Leyan was discussing with Wei Shy Yu about her marriage to Ashile, she commented how Chang Ge is the best at faking death so maybe she should.
I don't think this is necessarily true, just that given the circumstances, people thought she was dead over and over again when she was alive.
-When Chang Ge fell into the river, I think a part of Wei Shy Yu thought she was dead. -When she surrendered to Ashile and they put up a notice that she was killed because she failed an assassination, people of Shuo Zhou believed she had died -When Xu Feng and Chang Ge tricked Bear Division into believing she was dead for a night -When a slave helped her fake death because Mu Jin and Sun knew there was a dude watching- LI Shi Min and Hao Du thought she was dead -When she went missing after saving Sun after his mother's death, maybe a part of Sun or Mimi thought she was dead -When Li Jing was talking to Li Shi Min about the fire ordeal and Chang Ge, for a second he thought she was dead until Li Jing said she likes reading, lol
So, at one point or another, some important characters like Li Shi Min, Wei Shy Yu, and Hao Du thought she was dead. Just interesting to compile and think about
Update: I am still annoyed by mimi guli and every episode, it's getting worse.
I agree lol, I just skip the scenes that are a bit boring and Mimi I just am annoyed by her no matter how hard I try to sympathize with her-probably is just her personality and the circumstances
I didn't find Mu Jin's ending satisfying. He kills uncle asshole and then is just left there standing. Of course…
I agree, he was a pretty important character as Sun's right hand man and his ending was just like plain I guess, didn't possess a lot of meaning besides killing the person who killed Mimi
On episode 18, Chang Ge says she is lucky to meet someone she cares about probably referring to Mimi and Sun replies with me too but referring to Chang Ge
Chang Ge still hasn't opened up her heart at this point and I don't blame her, so many of the people she was close with got killed and she doesn't want to hurt Sun either
Absolutely there is so much pain. Especially in that famous snowy scene... when all the destruction and suffering…
I agree, like she suffered so much just to find out her new friend was a leader of the enemy. She had suffered so much in such a short period of time. This hurt her but also built her into being almost indestructable feelings-wise because almost nothing would be almost to completely break her down in the future.
I also agree that she portrayed that scene wonderfully, I could see her gulp down all her pain and act respectful towards Sun while wanting to cry and break down.
love A Dou's talkative yet cunning personalityMr. Fang is kinda shading Du Minister when talking about Pin Xiang…
A Dou saved Chang Ge even though Chang Ge was rude showing how loyal he already was to her and that he would never betray her. This is a connection to when he died because he didn't betray Chang Ge.
Ashile Sun asking about Li Jian Cheng's sons and generals completeing not asking about daughters. This shows he didn't even consider Chang Ge to be a women in the beginning, her actions made her seem like a man because women were typically so powerless and supposedly 'weak' during that time period.
Lol, Mr Fang still shading Du Minister about Fang Commander's idea. Then Du Minister shades him back. These 2 are a funny pair lol.
Li Shi Min wants Chang Ge alive again showing how he still cares for her.
Another iconic thing "To ensure the stability of our Tang Dynasty, I dare remove more obstacles, let alone Chang Ge." said by Du Minister. What he doesn't know is if Chang Ge was dead or in prison, Tang Dynasty would have become weaker from Ashile attacks and Yi Cheng's plots. These were things that Chang Ge all took a big part in. And Du Minister wants to kill the person who in the future will save him at Liu Yun Temple, ironic isn't it?
The dude the fishmonger was describing is somebody from Ashile probably. They wanted to get all the insights on Prince Qin, and the Tang royalty to plot a a takeover of the Tang probably.
Chang Ge can notice all the people waiting to catch and kill her in a large crowd, showing she is ahead of the enemy. Maybe it was too easy to spot since she knows very well what they look like.
Ashile Sun also very cunning knowing what would happen when Yaro comes back from seeing the fish monger.
Lol Sun just "chilling" while the soldiers chase Chang Ge but meant to chase him.
The fish token- Chang He has something to report and give to Hao Du.
Hao Du threatening Wei Shu Yu once again, he will have to betray Chang Ge
Sun already knows of Chang Ge's crimes.
Lol Yaro and Shu Yi She's conversation, Yaro already noticing differences the way Sun treats Chang Ge.
The part where the guards check the caravans is like a horrible airport security check lmao.
Chang Ge hiding in the caravan- one step ahead of Hao Du again but not for long
Unbeknownst to Hao Du, Chang Ge was hiding in Ashile group's caravan and Ashile is an enemy to Tang.
Sun teasing Chang Ge about being a girl when she really is, lol.
Chang Ge must have felt horrible knowing Wei Shy Yu was the one also chasing her after all that happened.
When Hao Du said "Chang Ge, You have no way out." Chang Ge again proved them wrong by going on the bridge and even though she fell, she got saved by Sun, so that was the way out.
Wei Shy Yu didn't want Chang Ge to be shot by Hao Du so he shot her in a less deadly area.
Sun really is Chang Ge's savior, he saved her at the river and many other places. If Chang Ge had been caught by Hao Du's men, it would be much harder for her to escape. She would probably be kept in a very tightly secured place and that would be horrible for her. Worse, Hao Du and Du Minister would probably treat her horribly. So Sun stopped this from happening, thank goodness, but then again it was fate because he was destined to help her.
Episode 3 Thoughts, What I Noticed And Connected (based on somebody rewatching)
love A Dou's talkative yet cunning personality
Mr. Fang is kinda shading Du Minister when talking about Pin Xiang Store lol and Du Minister shaded back maybe knowing Mr. Fang did the fire
Li Shi Min wants to pardon loyal followers of his enemy showing how kind his heart is
When Chang Ge bumped into Ah Zhun was one of the couple other times they would meet randomly in Tang.
The Dus' kinda forced Wei Shu Yu to do whatever they wanted and be loyal to Li Shi Min threatening his family and father and I really dislike this.
Li Shi Min still cares for and loves Chang Ge even if she tried to assasinate and she hates him showing how much he cares for her even and even let her stay in a nicer room as a prisoner.
Ashile Sun is getting more interested in Chang Ge because of her actions but will soon fall in love with her when knowing she is a women.
I feel bad for Leyan because Chang Ge is now unfriendly to her not knowing what happened. I feel somebody should have told Leyan what happened but they know she was too timid at the time but still. Chang Ge was too smart for Leyan and Mr. Fang's plan to work and she got her own plan to escape.
Chang Ge probably had a rough idea of how she was going to kill Li Shi Min with the help of the Seal of Crown Prince.
Chang Ge even now had a pretty clear vision of what she wants to do. Normal people would be in shock and grief for quite a while, while Chang Ge immediatly started on her revenge plans. This shows she is super strong and shows that even this could not break her
Episode 2 Thoughts, What I Noticed And Connected (based on somebody rewatching)
Retinue Wei hated Li Shi Min at first but he later realized that Li Shi Min is actually not evil
I have another theory that Ashile intervened and played some role in the death of Li Jian Cheng and his family because in an episode Ashile Sun says something like I underestimated Li Shi Min meaning that he let go Li Jian Cheng's loyal followers and he got less hate. This might show they wanted to destroy the Eastern Palace people and Li Shi Min, I am not sure though.
I feel bad for San Niang because she was stabbed by Chang He when trying to save Chang Ge, Also I thought that the actor playing Chang He and Shen Gu were the same people but I was wrong, they look kinda alike
Based on the knife she gave Second Uncle, she made the wrong assumption, she thought he killed Lady Jin with It but Lady Jin killed herself with it.
Chang Ge jumping into the river/ stream to escape from the soldiers has a meaning of her almost always being able to find a solution or strategy for any given situation; the soldiers didn't expect her to jump into the river but she did.
I feel bad for Leyan, she barely knows the whole truth of what is going on and her best friend is missing.
A Dou suggested stealing Lady Jin's stuff not knowing the person he was talking to was Lady Jin's daughter, ironic.
Lol, the soldiers just stuffing pastries into their mouth not caring about a thing.
Chang Ge made a pledge thinking she was gonna kill her Second Uncle but her mother was her mother's murderer so that would be invalid meaning she would have to kill her already dead mother which does not make sense so it cancels out so Chang Ge didn't go back on her pledge.
The sarcasm by Du Minister, looks like our old friend, but he already thinks Chang Ge should be killed.
Throughout the drama, Chang Ge experiences a lot of pain some examples: her mother's death and seeing her second uncle step out with blood thinking he was the murderer; and almost her entire family got killed
Wei Shu Yu, a close friend betraying her and shooting an arrow to her
Youzhou governer's betrayal
A Dou and Gong Sun Heng's death
knowing Ah Zhun's real identity and having to be a slave for him
people thinking she caused the death of Gong Sun Heng and his wife
There are some other examples but these are the ones in the beginning that hurt the most. Also as she becomes stronger during her journey, some things that would pain a lot of people like betrayal and getting an arrow shot to you no longer pain her as much because she is so used to it
Does anyone wants talk how Ashile Sun changed his attitude when he met Changge and start to fall in love on her?…
Yeah, one example is he starts allowing girls to train for shooting arrows and learning martial arts. Even Mu Jin was surprised because Sun had never allowed that. Sun also becomes more warm-hearted. Like Yi Cheng said, Sun also got a weakness, aka Chang Ge. Before Sun didn't really have any weaknesses before meeting Chang Ge but after and after he fell in love with her, protecting Chang Ge became one of his top priorities and he developed a weakness which is also one of his strengths. Think about this, Sun might have had to go through horrible things if Wang Jun Kuo said the truth and if it were not for Chang Ge. Sun had been captured by Yi Cheng and without Chang Ge's help, he would not be alive. So it is also a strength because Chang Ge can also protect and help Sun. Also, don't forget the many times when Chang Ge sacrificed herself for Eagle Division and Sun or when she thought of strategies super quickly to help Sun and Eagle Division. Chang Ge also made Sun feel real love and care. I mean yeah Great Khan cared for him but like as a person who always expected Sun to follow him like a boss that cannot be removed. Great Khan treated Sun like a person to do Great Khan's hard work or something, meanwhile Chang Ge truly loved Sun for who he was.
Episode 2 Thoughts, What I Noticed And Connected (based on somebody rewatching)
As stated in a comment by myself below, LI Jian Cheng is less sincere about Chang Ge's well performance at the Cuju game and just talked about how she won glory and pride for him... But her interaction with Li Shi Min was different, he just gladly and kindly accepted the gift and didn't talk about glory or honor. Also Li Jian Cheng said " I've never thought a girl could do better than your brothers." This shows he underestimated Chang Ge and doesn't know Chang Ge that well compared to Li Shi Min who never showed underestimating what she did.
Li Jian Cheng clearly hates/ dislikes Li Shi Min a lot based on his conversation with Chang Ge.
That slap must have hurt a lot to Chang Ge but I know Lady Jin was just extremely worried about Chang Ge.
That pledge has a lot of meaning in the rest of the story since Chang Ge starts her journey everywhere seeking revenge for the person who "killed" lady Jin but that stops being her motivation and helping others and seeking peace then become her priorities. Chang Ge's entire journey started with her not following what her mother wanted her to pledge for. Her mother wanted her to hate no one at all but Chang Ge pledged she would not hate anyone unless they murderered Lady Jin.
My guess on the scheme is that Li Jian Cheng had was to kill Li Shi Min and maybe Li Yuan Ji that was probably his father (Chang Ge's grandfather) and then take over the throne.
I don't think this is necessarily true, just that given the circumstances, people thought she was dead over and over again when she was alive.
-When Chang Ge fell into the river, I think a part of Wei Shy Yu thought she was dead.
-When she surrendered to Ashile and they put up a notice that she was killed because she failed an assassination, people of Shuo Zhou believed she had died
-When Xu Feng and Chang Ge tricked Bear Division into believing she was dead for a night
-When a slave helped her fake death because Mu Jin and Sun knew there was a dude watching- LI Shi Min and Hao Du thought she was dead
-When she went missing after saving Sun after his mother's death, maybe a part of Sun or Mimi thought she was dead
-When Li Jing was talking to Li Shi Min about the fire ordeal and Chang Ge, for a second he thought she was dead until Li Jing said she likes reading, lol
So, at one point or another, some important characters like Li Shi Min, Wei Shy Yu, and Hao Du thought she was dead. Just interesting to compile and think about
Chang Ge still hasn't opened up her heart at this point and I don't blame her, so many of the people she was close with got killed and she doesn't want to hurt Sun either
I also agree that she portrayed that scene wonderfully, I could see her gulp down all her pain and act respectful towards Sun while wanting to cry and break down.
Ashile Sun asking about Li Jian Cheng's sons and generals completeing not asking about daughters. This shows he didn't even consider Chang Ge to be a women in the beginning, her actions made her seem like a man because women were typically so powerless and supposedly 'weak' during that time period.
Lol, Mr Fang still shading Du Minister about Fang Commander's idea.
Then Du Minister shades him back. These 2 are a funny pair lol.
Li Shi Min wants Chang Ge alive again showing how he still cares for her.
Another iconic thing "To ensure the stability of our Tang Dynasty, I dare remove more obstacles, let alone Chang Ge." said by Du Minister. What he doesn't know is if Chang Ge was dead or in prison, Tang Dynasty would have become weaker from Ashile attacks and Yi Cheng's plots. These were things that Chang Ge all took a big part in. And Du Minister wants to kill the person who in the future will save him at Liu Yun Temple, ironic isn't it?
The dude the fishmonger was describing is somebody from Ashile probably. They wanted to get all the insights on Prince Qin, and the Tang royalty to plot a a takeover of the Tang probably.
Chang Ge can notice all the people waiting to catch and kill her in a large crowd, showing she is ahead of the enemy. Maybe it was too easy to spot since she knows very well what they look like.
Ashile Sun also very cunning knowing what would happen when Yaro comes back from seeing the fish monger.
Lol Sun just "chilling" while the soldiers chase Chang Ge but meant to chase him.
The fish token- Chang He has something to report and give to Hao Du.
Hao Du threatening Wei Shu Yu once again, he will have to betray Chang Ge
Sun already knows of Chang Ge's crimes.
Lol Yaro and Shu Yi She's conversation, Yaro already noticing differences the way Sun treats Chang Ge.
The part where the guards check the caravans is like a horrible airport security check lmao.
Chang Ge hiding in the caravan- one step ahead of Hao Du again but not for long
Unbeknownst to Hao Du, Chang Ge was hiding in Ashile group's caravan and Ashile is an enemy to Tang.
Sun teasing Chang Ge about being a girl when she really is, lol.
Chang Ge must have felt horrible knowing Wei Shy Yu was the one also chasing her after all that happened.
When Hao Du said "Chang Ge, You have no way out." Chang Ge again proved them wrong by going on the bridge and even though she fell, she got saved by Sun, so that was the way out.
Wei Shy Yu didn't want Chang Ge to be shot by Hao Du so he shot her in a less deadly area.
Sun really is Chang Ge's savior, he saved her at the river and many other places. If Chang Ge had been caught by Hao Du's men, it would be much harder for her to escape. She would probably be kept in a very tightly secured place and that would be horrible for her. Worse, Hao Du and Du Minister would probably treat her horribly. So Sun stopped this from happening, thank goodness, but then again it was fate because he was destined to help her.
Mr. Fang is kinda shading Du Minister when talking about Pin Xiang Store lol and Du Minister shaded back maybe knowing Mr. Fang did the fire
Li Shi Min wants to pardon loyal followers of his enemy showing how kind his heart is
When Chang Ge bumped into Ah Zhun was one of the couple other times they would meet randomly in Tang.
The Dus' kinda forced Wei Shu Yu to do whatever they wanted and be loyal to Li Shi Min
threatening his family and father and I really dislike this.
Li Shi Min still cares for and loves Chang Ge even if she tried to assasinate and she hates him showing how much he cares for her even and even let her stay in a nicer room as a prisoner.
Ashile Sun is getting more interested in Chang Ge because of her actions but will soon fall in love with her when knowing she is a women.
I feel bad for Leyan because Chang Ge is now unfriendly to her not knowing what happened. I feel somebody should have told Leyan what happened but they know she was too timid at the time but still. Chang Ge was too smart for Leyan and Mr. Fang's plan to work and she got her own plan to escape.
Chang Ge probably had a rough idea of how she was going to kill Li Shi Min with the help of the Seal of Crown Prince.
Chang Ge even now had a pretty clear vision of what she wants to do. Normal people would be in shock and grief for quite a while, while Chang Ge immediatly started on her revenge plans. This shows she is super strong and shows that even this could not break her
I have another theory that Ashile intervened and played some role in the death of Li Jian Cheng and his family because in an episode Ashile Sun says something like I underestimated Li Shi Min meaning that he let go Li Jian Cheng's loyal followers and he got less hate. This might show they wanted to destroy the Eastern Palace people and Li Shi Min, I am not sure though.
I feel bad for San Niang because she was stabbed by Chang He when trying to save Chang Ge, Also I thought that the actor playing Chang He and Shen Gu were the same people but I was wrong, they look kinda alike
Based on the knife she gave Second Uncle, she made the wrong assumption, she thought he killed Lady Jin with It but Lady Jin killed herself with it.
Chang Ge jumping into the river/ stream to escape from the soldiers has a meaning of her almost always being able to find a solution or strategy for any given situation; the soldiers didn't expect her to jump into the river but she did.
I feel bad for Leyan, she barely knows the whole truth of what is going on and her best friend is missing.
A Dou suggested stealing Lady Jin's stuff not knowing the person he was talking to was Lady Jin's daughter, ironic.
Lol, the soldiers just stuffing pastries into their mouth not caring about a thing.
Chang Ge made a pledge thinking she was gonna kill her Second Uncle but her mother was her mother's murderer so that would be invalid meaning she would have to kill her already dead mother which does not make sense so it cancels out so Chang Ge didn't go back on her pledge.
The sarcasm by Du Minister, looks like our old friend, but he already thinks Chang Ge should be killed.
some examples:
her mother's death and seeing her second uncle step out with blood thinking he was the murderer; and almost her entire family got killed
Wei Shu Yu, a close friend betraying her and shooting an arrow to her
Youzhou governer's betrayal
A Dou and Gong Sun Heng's death
knowing Ah Zhun's real identity and having to be a slave for him
people thinking she caused the death of Gong Sun Heng and his wife
There are some other examples but these are the ones in the beginning that hurt the most. Also as she becomes stronger during her journey, some things that would pain a lot of people like betrayal and getting an arrow shot to you no longer pain her as much because she is so used to it
But her interaction with Li Shi Min was different, he just gladly and kindly accepted the gift and didn't talk about glory or honor. Also Li Jian Cheng said " I've never thought a girl could do better than your brothers." This shows he underestimated Chang Ge and doesn't know Chang Ge that well compared to Li Shi Min who never showed underestimating what she did.
Li Jian Cheng clearly hates/ dislikes Li Shi Min a lot based on his conversation with Chang Ge.
That slap must have hurt a lot to Chang Ge but I know Lady Jin was just extremely worried about Chang Ge.
That pledge has a lot of meaning in the rest of the story since Chang Ge starts her journey everywhere seeking revenge for the person who "killed" lady Jin but that stops being her motivation and helping others and seeking peace then become her priorities. Chang Ge's entire journey started with her not following what her mother wanted her to pledge for. Her mother wanted her to hate no one at all but Chang Ge pledged she would not hate anyone unless they murderered Lady Jin.
My guess on the scheme is that Li Jian Cheng had was to kill Li Shi Min and maybe Li Yuan Ji that was probably his father (Chang Ge's grandfather) and then take over the throne.
will type the rest of my thoughts later