I really needed Lian to suffer, like he cudn't just do all of that, lie like that and have this happy ever after without some suffering.
I am going to need Kuea to stop trying to blame himself here. I think it's soo important to feel comfortable around ur significant other and if you don't feel comfortable enough to be yourself then something is seriously wrong and I am sooo happy that he didn't say yes, that he put himself first.
I know they will probably make up next episode but im glad Kuea stood up for himself and Lian suffered a little.
Just came here to scream about Zee's Always you mv coming out. I cannot even explain how much I needed the full version of the song. We got it and I love it soo much. I love the MV and there was a kiss at the end. I was not expecting that but it was cute. Cant wait for the next episode tomorrow.
I absolutely agree with you when u said reading the book ruined to an extended the drama not that it ain't good…
Definitely knowing the inner thoughts is what made the book good but made this scene worse. I am still reading the books and we will see how it plays out and how the screenwriters show some of those future scenes and the aftermath of this scene.
When will you SJWs go away or stop watching and reading BLs with rough sex subject matter and then pretending…
I'm not going to argue with a stranger online, I don't have the energy. I just hope one day you realise that your words here on such a sensitive topic could have really hurt someone.
I have to talk about the bathroom scene. I have read the book and I will spoil this scene in the book but not what happens after.
In a way I do wish I hadn't read the book because my experience of this drama would be different but I have to say in a way I love the characters a little bit more in the book because there is more details than the show. (excluding this scene)
But anyways, in the book Porsche is drugged with sleeping pills and Viagra and you get to read the effects of the drugs and how it made him feel and in the show they show someone putting something in the drink the viewer can guess it's some type of drug. Also, the part of Vegas marking Porsches neck. They miss out the fact that Kinn had left marks on Porsches' neck before, Vegas left more marks and then when Kinn came in later he left even more marks.
In this episode it has Vegas leaving marks on his neck and Kinn didn't even notice.
In the book the bathroom scene, which was on the bed in the book made me hate Kinn if i'm honest. It just didn't make sense to me that someone who is clearly drugged, who is so horny and out of it because of this drug and it's so obvious he is drugged and Kinn's conclusion is to have sex with him. And reading all those details, I felt sick. It's non-consensual, it made me feel sick. I was disappointed that this is used too many times in BL's and I had to put the book down for a bit, I cudn't even look at Kinn the same.
That's the book, I have carried on reading it, and it is obvious that this is the catalyst for their relationship and I don't know how they could have essentially done their story in the show without this happening. I think with the show just showing that someone putting something in Porsches drink the viewer can down play the drug. Like I saw a comment saying it was just a sexual stimulant...The next thing was Porsche threw up, which for some people that could make you feel a little bit more conscious, clear headed than before. That's a vision of that.
Also, moving to the bathroom, both almost naked. That makes the viewer think time has gone past. Porsche might be more conscious than previously.
Also, that scene, it was Porsche touching Kinn, Porsche doing more of the initiating and touching, kissing all that than Kinn. But Kinn did more kissing than Porsche lol I was lowkey happy n disgusting that Kinn was kissing Porsche's vomit, Kinn needed to suffer, even if it was that lol. But it also showed how much Kinn liked Porsche cos he didn't kiss his other boy toys but would kiss Porsche's mouth with vomit.
And even Porsche remembering that they kissed at the pier adds more ground that Porsche is conscious to what is happening.
My thing is people who are drugged, people who are drunk they can talk, they can do what Porsche did but that doesn't mean they are consenting to sex. Would Porsche have done that if he wasn't drugged?
I think the writers were definitely standing on a thin line, with what to do and I think they did the best they could do with this scene with how sadly pivotal this scene was in the novel.
I'm not really mad at the screenwriters of the show, just disappointed at the comments here trying to justify non-consensual sex, people trying to belittle those concerned about that. Which I think is very wrong, I just hope people are mindful of what they say and the impact their words might have on someone reading their words they will use to defend the show on the non-consensual sex.
This whole thing made me realise, why do we care soooo much abt celebrities and their personal lives.
The guy who plays Prapai is fit.
Mame shud shock us and make the two biker guys end game lol that wud make this interesting. (I knw it’s two separate books tho :(
But we will see, hopefully it’s okay to watch.
I am going to need Kuea to stop trying to blame himself here. I think it's soo important to feel comfortable around ur significant other and if you don't feel comfortable enough to be yourself then something is seriously wrong and I am sooo happy that he didn't say yes, that he put himself first.
I know they will probably make up next episode but im glad Kuea stood up for himself and Lian suffered a little.
I don't think Syn is a good friend to Kuea, this character seems one dimensional tbh.
I can't believe we only have 2 more episodes. Two great bl shows on a Saturday. Love it
In a way I do wish I hadn't read the book because my experience of this drama would be different but I have to say in a way I love the characters a little bit more in the book because there is more details than the show. (excluding this scene)
But anyways, in the book Porsche is drugged with sleeping pills and Viagra and you get to read the effects of the drugs and how it made him feel and in the show they show someone putting something in the drink the viewer can guess it's some type of drug. Also, the part of Vegas marking Porsches neck. They miss out the fact that Kinn had left marks on Porsches' neck before, Vegas left more marks and then when Kinn came in later he left even more marks.
In this episode it has Vegas leaving marks on his neck and Kinn didn't even notice.
In the book the bathroom scene, which was on the bed in the book made me hate Kinn if i'm honest. It just didn't make sense to me that someone who is clearly drugged, who is so horny and out of it because of this drug and it's so obvious he is drugged and Kinn's conclusion is to have sex with him. And reading all those details, I felt sick. It's non-consensual, it made me feel sick. I was disappointed that this is used too many times in BL's and I had to put the book down for a bit, I cudn't even look at Kinn the same.
That's the book, I have carried on reading it, and it is obvious that this is the catalyst for their relationship and I don't know how they could have essentially done their story in the show without this happening. I think with the show just showing that someone putting something in Porsches drink the viewer can down play the drug. Like I saw a comment saying it was just a sexual stimulant...The next thing was Porsche threw up, which for some people that could make you feel a little bit more conscious, clear headed than before. That's a vision of that.
Also, moving to the bathroom, both almost naked. That makes the viewer think time has gone past. Porsche might be more conscious than previously.
Also, that scene, it was Porsche touching Kinn, Porsche doing more of the initiating and touching, kissing all that than Kinn. But Kinn did more kissing than Porsche lol I was lowkey happy n disgusting that Kinn was kissing Porsche's vomit, Kinn needed to suffer, even if it was that lol. But it also showed how much Kinn liked Porsche cos he didn't kiss his other boy toys but would kiss Porsche's mouth with vomit.
And even Porsche remembering that they kissed at the pier adds more ground that Porsche is conscious to what is happening.
My thing is people who are drugged, people who are drunk they can talk, they can do what Porsche did but that doesn't mean they are consenting to sex. Would Porsche have done that if he wasn't drugged?
I think the writers were definitely standing on a thin line, with what to do and I think they did the best they could do with this scene with how sadly pivotal this scene was in the novel.
I'm not really mad at the screenwriters of the show, just disappointed at the comments here trying to justify non-consensual sex, people trying to belittle those concerned about that. Which I think is very wrong, I just hope people are mindful of what they say and the impact their words might have on someone reading their words they will use to defend the show on the non-consensual sex.