itwillneverbefar

I think its important to give it a rating from how it's feeling up to this point because people may use that to decide whether they want to start watching it. I like it when shows that are currently airing have a rating so it can help me choose which one is worth starting or watching live.

I think she tried to marry him at first or something, like I feel like he knows she has a thing for him, and he did that to toy with her, because he's more calculating than he lets on.

Ok I'm not the only one?!? I like how twisted it is tbh. In the end he will not be swayed by her but it would make her so much more pathetic. Idk I just feel like it'll add more interesting tension.

I got weird sexual tension between them in that scene and honestly I'm here for it.

I don't get it. He's playing the character well. It's a character who is extremely guarded and is used to putting up a cool, collected and controlled facade at all times. How else is he supposed to play him?

None of those actors are in this show tho. It's fine if BWS isn't hitting for you, but using the comment section of a drama not to talk about the drama itself but instead to list out actors who you like better is kinda weird and petty and is beyond just having a different preference. It doesn't contribute to the convo in any meaningful way.

I was iffy after the first ep, but the second was so much fun, I find Hui Ju really engaging and refreshing, I loved their chemistry, and I am intrigued by the reveal of the King wanting to step down before he died in the fire and seeing how that plays out.

I'm starting to understand the prince a lot better after this ep. I don't have any particular attachment to BWS but he is 100% building a layered character that will be revealed to us more and more and I really saw in this episode how much is going on for him behind his very carefully curated facade. He is much more strategic than he appeared at first, and his decision to agree to marry her seems quite multi-layered. I think he is genuinely intrigued by Hui Ju from their HS days and sympathizes with her plight, feels uneasy making her take the fall for the scandal, but also saw how capable she was at handling him being sick (despite all her silliness in pursuing him when it came down to a serious matter she was generous, quick-thinking, and discreet), and he sees her as someone who could genuinely battle with the Queen Mother AND who would be the last person the QM would want him to marry and therefore be an unwavering ally against her, which I think is the ultimate reason he decided to say yes.

This makes their engagement so interesting. They both are attracted to each other, both admire each other (grudgingly on Hui Ju's part), but also both have their own self-serving agenda for the engagement that has nothing to do with liking the other which is their biggest motivating factor right now.

The biggest difference is the Prince is invested in general in having a love match for a marriage while she isn't, which will make him more comfortable in actually acting like a couple and growing genuinely closer. She will play along to a point but is gonna resist admitting she has feelings for him for as long as she possibly can. But then when she does finally admit it he is gonna be sooooo gone. That's gonna be fun to watch play out.

And I am so ready to see Hui Ju come in and shake up the entire court, and put the Queen Mother in her place.

So yeah. Seated.

If the wife knows and doesn't care then why not

Man I was already tearing up just at the trailer, this is gonna be a good one.

This plot is WILD and I'm here for it.

There are a hundred super handsome C drama actors (and many that are more handsome than him, tbh) so it has to be something more than that.

So I agree mostly, there was so much said but not enough shown, esp about BWS. But the whole point of IU's character is that she IS very insecure and has this huge facade that she tries to play off, but she's kind of a walking hypocrite. The convo with her brother said it all. When he called her out for owning a luxury brand so she could pretend to be high class you saw how her arrogant facade crumbled for a second. That is part of her character arc. I assume she's going to get a big wake up call about what it really means to be a royal and have a title.

I'm praying that the palace politics plot of the unsolved fire murder of the king or whatever has a lot more depth, because right now it does seem super cliche.

First episodes can be tough, so I am also hoping that it finds its footing in the next episodes. I always give a drama until episode 4. If it hasn't really pulled me in by then it's never going to

I enjoyed IU's character, she seems fun and interesting and they at least did a good job of showing why she acts the way she does and why she wants to prove herself. I genuinely love when FLs take on the arrogant slightly man-child persona of the normal chaebol ML, it's a fun reversal.

I'm concerned about the writing overall tho. There was SO much tell and not show, esp about the prince. Like... everyone says he's so popular and loved and powerful, it's mentioned he's the regent and has royal duties he's doing all the time, but we never actually see him interacting with anyone, or advising the king, or some public appearance, or something similar. Other than a throwaway line about royalty doing nothing, we also don't really get to see what he really wants in life or why he's so unhappy. Cause honestly he seems to seek out solitude and seems pretty content with it at present. I think that's why some people are saying BWS is boring or not acting well, I think he's trying to convey a facade with underlaying emotion that the script hasn't given him enough support for, so we can't really connect with his deeper desires or inner life.

Also I really hate that they have this whole king murder/fire plotline. Mixing romcom with murder mystery rarely turns out well. The show is gonna get messy in the second half. Esp because it's obvious who the villian is when you cast Jo Jae Yun.

Also would it absolutely kill a k drama writer to have two adults meet as adults, like why must they have secretly had a crush on each other in HS? It makes the show feel disjointed to suddenly flash back to HS randomly. And why did he refuse to even meet her 5 times if he supposedly crushed on her in HS? They're just not giving us enough insight into the characters or what they're feeling, so it's falling a bit flat for me as of now. Hopefully that improves.

Yeah BWS hasn't really had much to work with, so far he's doing fine but mostly he's just been stoic. IU is making a character that would normally drive me crazy be fun and charming, so I give her points for that. I'll keep watching at least to see how it develops

Why did he refuse to see her so many times? I don't get it. They haven't really done a good job of connecting us with him tbh

The moment the man's face was on screen I was like "Oh so he's the main villain in this"

So excited for this to start! I am feeling confident in this drama from the teasers, the chemistry is there and it just looks gorgeous. A new scriptwriter is always scary but because IU is careful with her drama choices and BYS would have chosen his comeback drama carefully it feels impossible for the script to suck. Add to that the director is quite consistently good and pretty much has a string of back to back viral k dramas leading into this. So it feels like it simply can't bomb, which is comforting. But I am hoping it's AMAZING versus just good. I need a drama that feels addictive and exciting again!

What made S1 work despite its flaws was two leads with desperate personal stakes and a prickly, organic bromance borne of a couple of kinda broken dudes bad at connecting who felt the connection anyway. S2 has none of that.

First off these guys are now cringy, YA romance-style besties, dropping super sappy lines every few minutes about being family and completing each other. It feels completely inauthentic. What made Geon Woo so compelling in S1 was his noble innocence underlayed with this wild, dark edge. That edge has been all but stripped out, and they maxed out his nobility and preciousness so he just comes across as silly and babyish, like this man is in tears asking someone for a place to stay, come on. Woo Jin lost his edge too, which makes him seem almost like a caricature of some noble hero at this point. And as much as I like Rain, Baek Jeong is just a cliche evil sociopath who feels especially second-rate next to Park Sung Woong's incredible performance last season.

The core problem is that the show needed to establish real conflict between the boys, or real inner conflict within them, right from the start. Instead they're happy go lucky from the getgo, and every conflict comes purely from the outside. That's just boring. esp when the plot is pretty simplistic and predictable. Maybe winning the championship left Geon-woo haunted instead of fulfilled and he wanted out. Maybe Woo Jin got too greedy, not out of selfishness but because he feared being forgotten while Geon-woo got all the glory, and pushed them into getting involved in one last fight in the dark web ring that then made them get in way too deep. Something like that could've organically led them into the Rain storyline with actual stakes attached and still being believable people with flaws and grittiness, and given them a way to become even closer as brothers that felt really earned.

That's just one random idea, but that's the kind of thing this story needed. I'm halfway through and genuinely can't care about either character because they are one dimensionally perfect good guys now and the ending is already obvious. They beat Rain, make all the noble choices as the super good guys they are, and come out even bestier bestie friends cause that's what really good bestie friends do. No real stakes, no real conflict, nothing human or messy. Sadly don't think I'm finishing this one, despite loving the first season and WDH being my GOAT.

It's kinda ridiculous how webtoon readers gatekeep casting like they own the characters. Meanwhile the actual director and producers of the show, who have seen the scripts and auditions, and who are making the actual drama you will see, are called dumb and wrong. The ego is wild in this chat

If it's not about acting, then it's superficial.