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they got immaculate taste

okay i would love for the last 4 episodes to be vegaspete centric but after the greatest trolling aka mile lying about the pool scene straight to our faces without an ounce of regret, i trust no one, i've been hurt too many times

I swear atp everyone is given a free pass, no question asked, but kinn lol

More than kinn, which has with pete a strictly boss-bodyguard relationship, i would be more disappointed with those who have a close relationship with him not even questioning his whereabouts, but i guess, considering what you said, it's still possible that they wouldn't find strange this 1 day absence

"did a sloppy job of making sure he knows where pete is" that's for sure, he should've at least checked and confirmed if what his brother said was true or not but to be fair tankhun was the one that insisted that every single one of his bodyguards were on leave dismissing his brother, so kinn's deduction, dumb and kinda insensitive as it might sounds, is also well-warranted.

Fr! Kinn might be the one to have sent him to investigate Vegas and he might have forgotten about it but i don't see anyone else asking for him, yk the supposed close friends and boss who calls for him 24/7?! ahah Also if i remeber correctly from the novel tankhun is literally the reason why they don't go search for pete when that peanut-brain kinn finally remembers to ask for him.

mega unpopular opinion but i really liked the idea of making tawan shoot himself, it was very unsatisfactory and that's what i liked about it, it wasn't predictable at all and kinda realistic, tawan proved himself to be a little sh*t till the end with that move which fits his character perfectly!

"most are so used to having everything laid out for them" tbh this is the biggest problem and also kinda worrying that people can't go past words because especially in real life not everything is spelled out to you...

Yeah, that's their dynamic, i would say physicality is their shared communication tool rather than words, however to me it's mind-boggling (and kinda shows a lack of attention to what's happening on screen) that we're still having this kind of basic characters' discussion at episode 10 lol

Okay so i apologize in advance if i'm going to sound a bit harsh but i'm just frustrated with some of the responses to this episode. I say this all the time, everyone can have their own feelings and opinions and every single one of them is valid however some are not opinions but just a general disregard of the past 9 episodes. So just like last week after reading some of the comments I'm seriously coming to the conclusion that we are watching two different series, i've seen a lot of people being mad at porsche for not getting mad at kinn which is supposed anger that comes from the interpretation of last week's ending scene that porsche was so hurt by kinn jailing him/not trusting him but like i said in a previous comment it wasn't that deep like a lot made it out to be, porsche literally said before vegas showed up "i know you would trust me" which does imply that he wasn't mad/hurt at kinn. Also, why would you be mad if the character doesn't meet your expectations which come from your personal interpretation of some scenes? To me and i would say it's pretty canon, porsche didn't have any reasons to be mad at kinn, because by letting him go he literally proved that he trusted him so whatever anger porsche might had (which again he did not and if you think he did then go rewatch episode 9) kinda disappeared. Also, i don't think a lot of people try to really understand these characters, porsche has shown us that he's the kind of person that moves on fast from unpleasant events and whatnot, that's not just a coping mechanism for traumatic events but his way of dealing with life, he's a chill guy when not attacked lol. Therefore, it makes perfect sense for him to act that way towards kinn, it would be ooc another kind of reaction after everything kinn did in this episode. I'm sorry for the rant but it's frustrating seeing people forgetting everything that has been shown to us and told us for the past 10 episodes and then get mad at the characters because they don't act like you want them to, basically disregarding everything, it's dumb. Again, sorry for the long rant but i just wanted it to let it out. Btw this was by far my fav episode but i have the feeling that i say this with every new episode, it's been a crescendo for me <3

with these last few posters, boc really said: "you wanted a new spoiler? too bad i'm giving you a still of the preview" lol

Kinn most definetely suspects vegas but his hands are tied as he doesn't have proof. Also ,i don't think that vegas was so dumb to bring his "closer men" with him, men that he's aware the main family knows of.

I don't know if it's an unpopular opinion but i don't see all the angst some people are talking about. Episode 9 was kinda unsettling for many reasons, the main one being Tawan's presence and what he stands for however i wouldn't say that he brought the angst that i keep seeing people "complaining" about. In particular, the last scene ( yk kinn ordering his men to take away porsche, yada yada yada) is what a lot deemed to be heartbreaking, but to me it was not. This is just my personal take which might be totally wrong after tomorrow's episode (lol) but both their gazes (kinn's and porsche's) conveyed a lot of emotions (hope, determination, wonder, confusion, some level of anger mixed with a pinch of sadness for porsche, etc...) but heartbreak was not one of them. We were all witnesses to the episode 6 ending scene, which is exactly why i think we are nowhere near that. So not to burst anyone's bubble but i believe that we have yet to see the real angst, not saying that it's going to happen in episode 10 but i wouldn't be too surprised if that's the case, but again it would be a double kill since it's also the beginning of vegaspete's story aka pure distilled angst, let's just hope that boc is going to be a bit lenient towards the poor viewers, i love angst but i can't wait a whole week to see it resolved :(

Wow someone set this comment section on fire lol I'm not going to take part in that particular argument but after reading some of the comments i've got to say something: people need to learn how to be respectful when sharing their opinions because some of y'all sound condescending af. You say that it's just your opinion (which btw both implies that it's not a fact and that inevitably there are going to be others' pov which might be correct or wrong just like yours) but then proceed to gaslight everyone who thinks otherwise, making a bunch of backhanded comments. That to me is not how to respectfully communicate or be open to discuss just like a lot of you claim to be. Do you want respect? Then learn how to phrase better your opinions and keep in check that passive aggressiveness because it just cuts out every chance at having an interesting or fruitful discussion. With this said, i love this comment section and it would be sad to see it become like twitter so let's keep being open-minded :)

(Btw i can't wait for tomorrow's episode, i put all my trust in boc because i know they're going to deliver! )

They are acting as if barcode didn't know that there was going to be some sort of kiss planned for them in the series hence accepted the job with that knowledge... When mileapo improvised a bit in some of their scenes all i saw were praises but now that jeff improvised a cheek kiss it's all about consent, pls make it make sense. Also it would be nice if people stopped babying barcode so much, yes he's a minor but he's 17, he's not a fetus.

Fr! They always go " omg he looks so young!" like tf you mean, he is young...

Exactly, their self-awareness is nonexistent because aside from some toxic shippers who love to cross the line (but let's be real those are a minority) these social justice warriors are always the first to overanalyze the sh*t out of the actors' interactions just to call it "weird" or "immoral". If after seeing two people, one of them being a minor, interacting with each other your first thought goes like "this is weird, he's a minor", you have a problem because the only way you could find it inappropriate is by you seeing that as something more than a normal interaction, which again is super weird behavior to me

I'm late to the party aka the jeff/barcode debate but i want to add my 2 cents no one asked for. Don't you find it weirder when people constantly bring up their age gap? They could be standing one feet apart, singing, dancing, doing nothing but being in the same frame having fun, and being cute and they would feel the morbid need to bring up the age "issue" (which is not an issue but whatever), i don't know but to me that's just weird and kinda hypocritical, trying to stop shipping (newsflash you can't) or something that to you is immoral but then being the very first to "sexualize/romaticize" their relationship by bringing it up (so seeing their relationship as more) when no one really said anything, 100% weirdo vibes to me. Also the fact that they seem to be incapable of distinguishing the actors from the characters it's a big red flag, they might be a couple on screen but they made it very clear (like it's really obvious in their every interaction) that they have a older brother/younger brother type of relationship so pls stop doing the most and hold your horses. Having said that, jeff and barcode can do whatever they want because it's none of your business, so stay pressed.

- A fellow kimchay stan that is tired of chronically online people :)

i'm generally not one to respond to reviews because everyone is entitled to their own opinions but some of your points are kinda unfair and probably stem from a lack of attention to what was happening in the show or maybe it's just forgetting the tons of info we get each episode which is totally fine since it happens to me all the time lol. So, i hope to clear some of your doubts, and my apologies for the long comment in advance :(

- " I don't understand why the literal mafia would hire an untrained man and let him have a super important job" You (as in the viewer) not understanding it, it's the whole point. The reason behind porsche's hiring is a major part of the plot that is unraveling and its importance has been hinted at throughout the show. The fact that you don't get it it's fine because it's THE mystery that needs to be revealed. Not only kinn but mostly kim has hinted with his few dialogues and his overall investigation plotline that there's more to korn's decision of hiring an inexperienced and disastrous human being as a bodyguard. As someone that read the novel, trust me, this is a major plot twist and an important part of the plot that can't be revealed too soon. If you don't have the patience that's okay but it's just like a crime drama centered around the identity of the killer, generally they reveal the killer's identity only near the end for suspense/plot reasons.

- "Why would Porsche always disrespect the people he works for?" This has been a debate since episode 1 that has been cleared directly and indirectly in the following episodes. At the beginning, he didn't really realize the seriousness of the situation he was put in, he was literally forced to be there, plus he wasn't the best fit or prepared to be a bodyguard of such a family (like we saw in episode 7 he was probably more fit to be in the second family) which is why he acted that way, however, they didn't kill him or really deal with him properly like you would expect from a mafia family after all the sh*t he pulled, not because they couldn't but because korn had obviously an ulterior motive to hire him which is again linked to point 1 (the korn and chan discussion after porsche f*cked up for the first time and even the discussion with kinn are very telling). Recently (episode 7 onwards) he began to take things more seriously but sometimes he's just a disrespectful prick because like he himself said in episode 6 that's just his personality and also he does that because he knows that kinn let him get away with it, at the beginning due to korn and his physical attraction and now due to his deeper feelings for him.

- "Kinn and Porsche's relationship was kind of rushed". If these are your feelings that's okay, it's alright if you think that they didn't manage the time laps in a proper way and made you feel like the relationship was too rushed, I get it (like their first kiss was already when Porsche was a month into his new job, a month, something that not a lot of viewers, myself included, felt because of the way they managed the time). Regarding the rest of your comment, i believe that the problem is just you not vibing/feeling with the nature of their relationship. Since episode 1 you can see that they are kinda attracted to each other (porsche more in a subconscious way than kinn), there was sexual tension since day one so when two grownups who mutually felt like that meet and felt deeply understood without having to spell everything out, they happen to kiss, have sex and so on and that's realistic. The slow burn, baby steps relationship some might expect is not something you should expect from a mafia-themed drama, just like it's not something that kinn and porsche want, due to their previous experiences and due to the environment in which they live. They love and feel very passionately, fast and deeply, as most of us felt it, but obvs like everything else it didn't work for everyone which again it is fine.

- "The "funny" moments in the show are just too silly and cartoonish." That's thai humor for you and it's an element that is ever-present in thais series that most international viewers hate/don't get and thai people love and since it is a thai series you can imagine why they would put it.

-They play the same emotional song whenever the scene is supposed to be heartfelt" Is this your first Asian drama? Playing the same ost in critical moments is an asian drama thing and i don't think is sometimes worth criticizing a series over. As of right now, there are only 3 osts with 3 different vibes (now 4 which we can expect to hear the last one in the next episode ) so that's why they are going to choose the one more appropriate for the romantic or sad scenes and that was jeff's one.

- "The scene in ep7" comment. Okay first of all this ending scene was emotionally packed and kinda difficult to digest for a lot of people due to the complexity of those emotions. If you actually looked at porsche expression you would notice that he wasn't shaken at all by vegas attempt to kiss him and that when kinn entered the scene he was actually smiling at him, what he was shocked about were kinn's words which were only an impulsive reaction to porsche's words and actions. Also, if you want to really understand the last scene i suggest you to watch the bts of episode 7 where mile and apo decoded the scene and explained step by step what they wanted to portray and why the nc scene was necessary and actually the most fulfilling discussion they had up that point. But i guess that just watching it without many thoughts it can be kinda confusing, so fair.

- "Speaking of sex scenes: some of the sex scenes in this show are the cringiest I've ever seen ??" Well that's an unpopular opinion since one of the things that are most appreciated about this series is how natural and realistic the nc scenes feel but that's just a matter of opinions i guess, so chapeau for actually surprising me because that's probably a first ahah

Again, sorry for the long comment but i wanted to help you clear some doubts and share another pov even if no one asked, so pls don't take it as an attack or anything like that, i actually enjoy looking at others' thoughts and reactions to the series, even if i don't agree with it. Oh and sorry for my english and poor grammar ^^"

"He was simply reactive, like a firefighter desperately putting out fires. in the end, he's at the mercy of the arsonists" well to be fair i do think that it's too soon to claim that, especially with how ambiguous the last scenes were, dialogues and behaviors-wise (i think all these debates are proof enough lol). Apart from that i wholeheartedly agree :)