i wonder how these actors keep things strictly business if it were me, right after acting those intimate scenes,…
It's different when it's cameras and a lot of stuff around. Imagine that behind the scene that we see there are so many people and also could be many takes. So the atmosphere is not as private, but more a question of art and doing that art.
Haha, it was a nice read! Overall I've seen so many heavy and insulting comments feeds for other dramas, that coming here after every episode has been fun. I am really enjoying more nuanced discussions and different perspectives.
Somehow you are holding her up to a standard to which she didn't grew up yet. Literally. She is fresh graduate…
Communication is key, I agree. But it only works if two parties are able to meet each other at some vulnerability level. And I do not think that Luke is there. He comes to me as emotionally unavailable, controlling, too fast on his words, condesending in his communication. To talk to him costs a lot of mental power and a lot of knowing how to talk to people like that. So to me her way of dealing with it is to avoid it. Otherwise, she will always be in the wrong according to him. In every misstep he is way harsher than he has to be. It takes huge personal power and knowing yourself to counter it.
I am not saying what FL is doing is the correct way. For all I know, they should break up. But I get why she is doing that.
Can you please share why she was conflicted according to the novel?
How interesting! it almost feels like they made all characters all grey.
I wish some part of the motivation was preserved, because since they showed the deal that Alex took as not very good, FL comes across as weighting options she doesn't have.
FL always wants ML to act in a way she wants. She wanted ML to explain the punishment thing, when she was clear…
Somehow you are holding her up to a standard to which she didn't grew up yet. Literally. She is fresh graduate after college, never worked in a company. She is learning and growing as we go through the show.
Complicated, but if you need a hard threshold then more toxic than not toxic for my impression. He has more power…
I agree that the relationship is clearly not working, that communication is key in normal relationships, and that she is self-sabotaging.
But I think there is little upside to voicing your internal conflicts to emotionally unavailable people like Luke. Yes, he cannot read minds. But he also cannot meet her in her vulnerability. By not telling him her struggles she actually preserves her agency over herself and does not give it to him. So breaking up with him in the latest episode was right.
Complicated, but if you need a hard threshold then more toxic than not toxic for my impression. He has more power…
He is her boss, which already creates an unequal footing in the relationship. If he wants to be with her, he should establish the rules and make sure she will not lose more than he does. Yet, he does no such thing and keeps pursuing her.
I feel like she had no other choice but a secret relationship (or no relationship at all) given the situation and all the signals he actually sent her (not just those that they showed us). Also, I am okay with her internal conflict. I think she is built for a different kind of relationship altogether, and she pushes herself for this relationship and company, thinking it is a 'Beijing thing.' I actually admire that she tries to get out of her comfort zone while staying vulnerable and more or less true to herself. She comes across to me as a healthier adult. And I do not think that if she had communicated all her worries, he would be able to meet her needs. And she actually knows it.
You want to be secret but you want him to send you flowers? She really isn't equipped for a secret relationship.…
No, she isn't equipped for a secret relationship. But I like her character, kindness, willingness to get out of comfort zone and keep growing. Under a more nurturing boss and in a more nurturing relationship she would achieve so much.
I finally understand why all the novel readers get upset and post in the comments. This toned down version of…
I didn't read the novel, but I enjoy this complex Luke. He is not inherently bad not good, but flawed driven by control, pride, ambition and using those as self-protection. I am really looking towards how they built his character further. To me that is even more nuanced to show progress on than a character we would hate. For character we hate doing a bit better is already a lot of perceived progress and Luke has to walk way more than a bit better for us (let's say for me) to fully like him.
what is this toxic yet not toxic relationshipðŸ˜ðŸ˜ how to describe this???
Complicated, but if you need a hard threshold then more toxic than not toxic for my impression. He has more power and respects only likely-minded, which creates impossible standard for FL to fill in for equal relationship. She sees that and chooses a way that would be less damaging for her carrer. So this creates toxic relationship for her. Even though she knows what she asked for, it seems to me like she is looking for a simple human validation that he can not give becase of pride and control.
I am not saying what FL is doing is the correct way. For all I know, they should break up. But I get why she is doing that.
I wish some part of the motivation was preserved, because since they showed the deal that Alex took as not very good, FL comes across as weighting options she doesn't have.
But I think there is little upside to voicing your internal conflicts to emotionally unavailable people like Luke. Yes, he cannot read minds. But he also cannot meet her in her vulnerability. By not telling him her struggles she actually preserves her agency over herself and does not give it to him. So breaking up with him in the latest episode was right.
I feel like she had no other choice but a secret relationship (or no relationship at all) given the situation and all the signals he actually sent her (not just those that they showed us). Also, I am okay with her internal conflict. I think she is built for a different kind of relationship altogether, and she pushes herself for this relationship and company, thinking it is a 'Beijing thing.' I actually admire that she tries to get out of her comfort zone while staying vulnerable and more or less true to herself. She comes across to me as a healthier adult. And I do not think that if she had communicated all her worries, he would be able to meet her needs. And she actually knows it.