Global Netflix removal on 2022-12-27. I don't know how much exactly is cut/removed/replaced on Netflix, but I only noticed rather minor things. For example, a very quiet background song during a car ride (that nobody reacts to) is replaced. Very few logos on clothes and some arcade video game screens are blurred out, usually only a few frames here and there. I think twice there's a movie in the background that is blurred out and its irrelevant audio is removed, but it's only very short. There's one or two more relevant sequences involving a movie and that does not seem to be altered in the Netflix version.
Is anything missing on Netflix, like licensed music? (I assume this isn't the show for actors singing, doing karaoke, and so on? Since that is cut or modified 95% of the time...)
For a lot of its runtime, it felt like a wannabe-Tarantino movie more than anything else. It's unfortunate that some crucial plot developments are left to the viewer's imagination. Besides a rather high level of graphic violence, the other thing that distinguishes it from your average Tarantino-inspired film is the at times extremely pretentious camerawork – the one year younger Memories of Murder does this much better.
The bog-standard English subtitles for this are terrible, they're missing crucial stuff. Decent subtitles will have a translation for the sticker on the wall a bit more than 4 minutes in, as well as something about the manifesto 11 minutes in. (Subtitles can be missing everything from background voices to the 'communicated thoughts' of the main character.)
Unfortunately, since you have a near same taste as I do, I can`t argue with that. It doesn`t help that I wasn`t…
ML's male side kick seemed to be interested in the Jung Nan Hee character (Cho Hye Jung), but then was randomly switched to pursuing the other friend Lee Sun Ok, as some "oh you can't be seen having a crush on someone chubbier" thing. IMO made worse by Cho Hye Jung being a thinner person who put on a bit of weight for the role.
Found the romance between the two doctors terrible too, like someone flipped a switch in him to like her too just as she called it quits, and then flipped another switch in her later to embrace his unconvincing affection.
Shi ho should have been the main lead. She is more interesting character. Such a waste of potential like Shi ho.
I have the polar opposite view in this regard: her entire character being cut out would have made it a less disjointed show for me.
She's way too old for the role and I would have been happy with the gymnasts staying 'the enemies' throughout the story, rather than awarding them some plight and sympathy.
I suppose watching Train, Mouse and this in quick succession gave me a substantial Kyung Soo Jin overdose too. Maybe that's part of it.
I've never seen a drama that was so universally ... second rate.
The casting wasn't good (in particular Kyung Soo Jin looking 35 when she's supposed to be 21, and Oh Eui Shik being "22" at the age of 33 — and NONE of the weightlifters looked like they could be weightlifters, and there was a huge lot of them).
The script was barely okay. Nothing in it that you haven't seen done better several times before, the Song Shi Ho character should have been cut out entirely, random side couple romances were thrown around left & right and mostly forgotten again. For that many hours of screentime, there were only few good jokes, and the unique things they had ('swag') were used inconsistently: forgotten in the middle, then shoved in again at the end as fan service.
Not even the production was good. From weird cuts to scenes with poorly placed details, Korea can do much better. The product placements of face cream (which FL would not possibly have/afford) and phone model (FL asking: "wow, is that the new colour?", and then the phone is BLACK) were particularly poor too.
It's possible that all this comes down to budget, maybe they couldn't afford top actors and staff? The script even mentions Song Joong Ki and Kim Soo Hyun by name, twice, and it feels like wishful thinking rather than a joke. In any case, a lack of money doesn't excuse that the FL of 50 kg or less plays a character based on a 80-100 kg real life athlete, and is constantly fake-shamed for her "abdominal obesity". The casting needs to match the script, or the script needs to match the actors.
tbh, I have watched the first two episodes and I am thinking of dropping it, but so many people are loving it,…
The first like four episodes are kind of bad, and after that it's relatively okay. In any case better than it initially is. (There's a bunch of kdramas where you have to "get over" the beginning, but I suppose usually it's ~2 episodes that are murky.)
As usual, Netflix has the cut version. Examples: - karaoke and clubbing scenes missing altogether (to be expected, since most of the times anyone sings in a drama, Netflix etc will have either the audio or the entire scene removed) - background music removed or replaced, including some BTS - FL's ringtone swapped out
A sixteen hours show with only about twelve hours of content. In the middle they run out of ideas for a long time and keep re-chewing the same supporting characters that weren't that fascinating to begin with.
There's a lot of "abuse & bullying is funny / forgivable", and likely more gay jokes and as many poop jokes as in all other shows of the last ten years combined. In some ways that makes it a very anachronistic experience. I suppose if one can view it entirely uncritically, the comedy is very funny most of the time.
The villain basically had a higher power level than any other character in the show (in terms of abilities & gadgets); maybe I've mellowed in that regard after heavily downrating Rugal for stuff like that.
I expected much better writing from this. I've seen this style of endemic corruption and the kind of "he's evil because he's evil" villain even in mediocre Cinderella cohabitation rom-coms.
Don't recall a single gag that was actually funny, either.
just a heads-up that Netflix is taking this off of the platform on the 21st, so if you'd like to watch it legally…
On Netflix, at least episode 4 is missing music at the start (replaced with something much more rock-y and less generic than Netflix usually use) and a song performance at the end. For both, peruse the usual not so legal streaming sites.
There's a very tiny amount of blurred out background posters etc.
Since I watched everything on Netflix besides the music scenes, I don't know what else might be missing/replaced in the NF version.
I don't know how much exactly is cut/removed/replaced on Netflix, but I only noticed rather minor things.
For example, a very quiet background song during a car ride (that nobody reacts to) is replaced.
Very few logos on clothes and some arcade video game screens are blurred out, usually only a few frames here and there. I think twice there's a movie in the background that is blurred out and its irrelevant audio is removed, but it's only very short.
There's one or two more relevant sequences involving a movie and that does not seem to be altered in the Netflix version.
the anime: https://myanimelist.net/anime/53149/Gaiken_Shijou_Shugi
(I assume this isn't the show for actors singing, doing karaoke, and so on? Since that is cut or modified 95% of the time...)
It's unfortunate that some crucial plot developments are left to the viewer's imagination.
Besides a rather high level of graphic violence, the other thing that distinguishes it from your average Tarantino-inspired film is the at times extremely pretentious camerawork – the one year younger Memories of Murder does this much better.
The bog-standard English subtitles for this are terrible, they're missing crucial stuff.
Decent subtitles will have a translation for the sticker on the wall a bit more than 4 minutes in, as well as something about the manifesto 11 minutes in. (Subtitles can be missing everything from background voices to the 'communicated thoughts' of the main character.)
IMO made worse by Cho Hye Jung being a thinner person who put on a bit of weight for the role.
Found the romance between the two doctors terrible too, like someone flipped a switch in him to like her too just as she called it quits, and then flipped another switch in her later to embrace his unconvincing affection.
She's way too old for the role and I would have been happy with the gymnasts staying 'the enemies' throughout the story, rather than awarding them some plight and sympathy.
I suppose watching Train, Mouse and this in quick succession gave me a substantial Kyung Soo Jin overdose too. Maybe that's part of it.
The casting wasn't good (in particular Kyung Soo Jin looking 35 when she's supposed to be 21, and Oh Eui Shik being "22" at the age of 33 — and NONE of the weightlifters looked like they could be weightlifters, and there was a huge lot of them).
The script was barely okay. Nothing in it that you haven't seen done better several times before, the Song Shi Ho character should have been cut out entirely, random side couple romances were thrown around left & right and mostly forgotten again. For that many hours of screentime, there were only few good jokes, and the unique things they had ('swag') were used inconsistently: forgotten in the middle, then shoved in again at the end as fan service.
Not even the production was good. From weird cuts to scenes with poorly placed details, Korea can do much better. The product placements of face cream (which FL would not possibly have/afford) and phone model (FL asking: "wow, is that the new colour?", and then the phone is BLACK) were particularly poor too.
It's possible that all this comes down to budget, maybe they couldn't afford top actors and staff? The script even mentions Song Joong Ki and Kim Soo Hyun by name, twice, and it feels like wishful thinking rather than a joke.
In any case, a lack of money doesn't excuse that the FL of 50 kg or less plays a character based on a 80-100 kg real life athlete, and is constantly fake-shamed for her "abdominal obesity". The casting needs to match the script, or the script needs to match the actors.
(There's a bunch of kdramas where you have to "get over" the beginning, but I suppose usually it's ~2 episodes that are murky.)
- karaoke and clubbing scenes missing altogether (to be expected, since most of the times anyone sings in a drama, Netflix etc will have either the audio or the entire scene removed)
- background music removed or replaced, including some BTS
- FL's ringtone swapped out
- FL's ringtone swapped out
- karaoke and club scenes missing
There's a lot of "abuse & bullying is funny / forgivable", and likely more gay jokes and as many poop jokes as in all other shows of the last ten years combined. In some ways that makes it a very anachronistic experience. I suppose if one can view it entirely uncritically, the comedy is very funny most of the time.
The villain basically had a higher power level than any other character in the show (in terms of abilities & gadgets); maybe I've mellowed in that regard after heavily downrating Rugal for stuff like that.
Don't recall a single gag that was actually funny, either.
There's a very tiny amount of blurred out background posters etc.
Since I watched everything on Netflix besides the music scenes, I don't know what else might be missing/replaced in the NF version.
In a post from five years ago (further down), they also point out this scene missing from ep2: https://twitter.com/eArgonsubs/status/924321518728896512
(But yes, the family wasn't found in the end.)