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On The Producers Oct 17, 2022
Unfortunately I thought the show had little plot, little point, and absolutely no conclusion.
While there's a good lot of celebrity cameos, they virtually never serve a purpose.

For a show about a TV show's writing team, the screenwriting sacrifices a lot of logical consistency for (I guess) reacting to viewer demands – things constantly change, it's like you watch a different show from time to time.
Sometimes plot arcs are turned into nonsense for comedic effect, too.
Or topics are mentioned, followed up on, and then disappear entirely.
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On The Producers Oct 17, 2022
On Netflix or I guess other license international streaming services you will be missing out on:
- Star Wars music (and other 'real' referential music)
- a lot of random atmospheric music
- music actually playing in the background in studios
- the bulk of Kim Soo Hyun singing
- some pointless comedy noises

Netflix cuts some unnecessary things, but I'd say there's a substantial hit from the loss of commercial music, maybe 1/3 as much as in any of the Reply series (where it's a REALLY big difference and sometimes half the screen is blurred out too).

However, Netflix has a intro that you otherwise don't get (characters getting on a bus together, which doesn't actually happen in the show since everybody drives their distinct largely sponsored cars).
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Replying to luckz Sep 29, 2022
Title Mouse Spoiler
"it was so underwhelming that she wasn't brought to light"But she outed herself on TV and went to jail?"he'd have…
Yeah her character basically knows everything for so much of the time and does nothing about it.
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Replying to hum Sep 22, 2022
Review Mouse
Wha~ thank you so much for reading my messy long review. I didn't think anyone would read it before I finish all…
Ya, I am also not a fan of "we'll show you something, but the character is just imagining it, but we aren't saying that", or what Mouse does non stop, "here is something dramatic as a cliffhanger but it doesn't actually happen" – like when the male lead "kills" the second male lead, except he hits his own hand with a stone to avoid doing so (lol). Maybe it's just makjang filmmaking ^_^.

And yes, for https://mydramalist.com/discussions/mouse/81465-spoilers-nonsense-or-really-far-fetched-coincidences and https://mydramalist.com/discussions/mouse/81469-spoilers-open-questions-unresolved-matters I had to spend 5–10 hours rewatching and making sure it's logically consistent and I'm not missing things, and yet I also (irresponsibly :P) didn't go the extra mile of providing full citations of episode and timestamp for everything.

As a side note, IMO this is less of a culprit-hunt than Tunnel, Train, Beyond Evil, etc. To me the mystery here is more like in the same writer's Black, that it's about the entire sequence of events rather than discovering an individual identity, and also not about the quest to catch a particular bad guy.
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On Kiss Goblin Sep 18, 2022
Title Kiss Goblin
This is quite well made. IMO the last three episodes are weaker than the stuff before.
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Replying to fiflydramalover Sep 18, 2022
Title Kiss Goblin
surprised to see so many comments liking this. I dropped after the first episode because it felt really meh to…
Production values and actors are much better than in various other short web dramas. There's quite a few funny scenes in it too.
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Replying to trifennik Sep 17, 2022
After watching "The scholar who walks the night" I wonder how the audience let pass the notion introduced there…
Maybe that one wasn't seen as a Chinese submarine, or nobody noticed the "blasphemy" at the time.
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Replying to luckz Sep 16, 2022
Title Mouse Spoiler
Father Ko was threatened with the life of Han Kook, the abducted boy, and additionally had no interest in perpetuating…
Yes, that's a common trope. In every superhero show, the villain threatens to kill any specific person if he is stopped, so that the hero is "forced"... to effectively let the villain kill ten more people.

Btw, along the biblical terms of the show, one could say it was a necessary step to "save the ML's soul".
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Replying to luckz Sep 16, 2022
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Yo-Han has a collage of Ba-Reum photos in his basement, is that what you mean?
If you have any other questions (..after so many months), I will still have the plot in my poor memory for the next day or two ^_^
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Replying to luckz Sep 16, 2022
Title Mouse Spoiler
I wrote about Beyond Evil that "The plot is full of coincidences, people arriving in exactly the right moment,…
I wish in one of the last ~4 episodes there would have been a focus on having Jung Ba Reum explain everything to Ko Moo Chi and Oh Bong Yi himself, in the presence of Choi Hong Joo as the person behind most of the events of the last two thirds of the show. Telling your friends what you did when you were a different person, I suppose.
Revealing it on TV seemed rather impersonal and put the focus on the OZ conspiracy too much.


Then again, K-drama etiquette in general seems to outlaw a murderous ML becoming an accepted 'good' character with a happy end.
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On Mouse Sep 16, 2022
Title Mouse
I wrote about Beyond Evil that "The plot is full of coincidences, people arriving in exactly the right moment, and 'small world' relations to a degree that you'd think Munju is the secret second capital of South Korea. This may be seen as standard K-drama fare, in the sense that if you don't mind the protagonists in another drama forming a bond for life in a chance meeting when they're five years old that somehow destines them to fall in love 25 years later, it likely won't annoy you here."

For me this is just as over the top here, or maybe even more so: https://mydramalist.com/discussions/mouse/81465-spoilers-nonsense-or-really-far-fetched-coincidences (warning: full spoilers!)


There's also some things I think were unanswered: https://mydramalist.com/discussions/mouse/81469-spoilers-open-questions-unresolved-matters (again warning: full spoilers!)

After finishing Mouse, I spent more than 10h just thinking and re-watching different parts to look for matching details or clear up some specific questions I had.
Drama life = hard life. ^_^
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Replying to luckz Sep 16, 2022
Title Mouse Spoiler
Yo-Han has a collage of Ba-Reum photos in his basement, is that what you mean?
Sung Yo Han takes pictures of Jung Ba Reum himself (1:02:13 into Ep18); maybe some are included in the picture stash that his only friend Kim Joon Seong gets by hacking into OZ servers (at his workplace). It's not clear because an hour into episode 18 you only see them assemble the collages of JBR's killings and not JBR & his home, and shortly afterwards you see him take one picture of JBR and then have the entire collage ready at 1:02:16.
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Replying to Shapur II Sep 16, 2022
Title Mouse
Euhm since when does the media care about morals? Views means money, so they do everything to attract viewers.…
Thank you for being considerate :3
However, if you tell me, I can move it up in priority and hopefully forget by the time I actually watch it :D
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Replying to ze97i Sep 16, 2022
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Finishing the devil judge and start this because l heard that this is a good mystery and mind blowing and l do…
Which one did you like more in the end?
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Replying to Aethelflaed Sep 16, 2022
Title Mouse Spoiler
I understand that most of you liked this show... but I'm looking for comments on the negatives you found, if any.…
An absurd amount of coincidences and childhood meetings.
An unnecessary focus on political/conspiracy stuff.
A lack of resolved feelings between the "antihero" and his sometimes-friends.
A lot of cheap tricks used by the filmmakers, usually as the end of episode cliffhanger.
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Replying to Mouse Sep 16, 2022
Title Mouse Spoiler
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"But what happend in the end? He murdered his own Father!
Patricide is unjustifiable, even if the father is a monster."
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"Just after they made him more humane. They removed that completely at the end. By making him commiting a even more heinous crime."
Isn't that just like, uh, your opinion? You state it like a universal fact.
Killing innocent and pure people seems much more villainous (to me) than killing an evil father he never met and definitely wasn't raised by.



"And then his father will live till old age regretting what he put his son through or even be handed the death sentence afterwards."
Without emotions, he's not capable of regret, outside of a selfish context.
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Replying to noire Sep 16, 2022
Title Mouse
Okay I'm on episode 12, and having a cat myself I've lost all sympathy for bareum after what he did to that poor…
I was heavily offended, but like 5 episodes later I had forgotten about it completely because there is just that much going on.
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Replying to Rajesh ch Sep 16, 2022
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Your opinion is objectively wrong
Why did you set yourself to "Gender: Female" then? :3
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Replying to 9429241 Sep 16, 2022
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One thing I didn't understand is why Ko Moo-won did not yell Jung Ba Reum's name directly during the live show…
Father Ko was threatened with the life of Han Kook, the abducted boy, and additionally had no interest in perpetuating the cycle of wrath and vengeance.
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Replying to semantichero Sep 16, 2022
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I can't remember the last time I watched a masterpiece that was also filled with plot holes, but so damn exciting,…
You could post the same comment below Black.
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