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Thank you, a lot of Chinese dramas do tend to have MLs who are a lot more in love with the FLs and have the lion's share of actions that show love than vice versa while I prefer romances where it's equal so think more Blossom, Lighter and princess and less Kunning palace and End of the moon. Does this show the FL giving just as much in terms of everything as the ML (i.e being willing to die for him, enduring pain for him basically the same amount of devotion he shows etc...)? I don't want to waste my time and watch something where it's more unequal tbh.

Yeah I came here to read opinions to see if I should watch the drama and I'm confused as to why anyone cares what these people do in their private lives, they're doing a job and that's all we can demand from them. Back to the drama I wanted to ask how's the romance? Are we talking mutual devotion and equal love and sacrifice or is it more from the ML's side?

This sounds fun but can you tell me how balanced and equal the relationship is? is it just the ML or do we both putting in as much effort to support and love each other?

This drama came out of nowhere and it is absolutely terrific so far. It's doing everything SO well.
The cases are interesting, emotional and while realistic use their leads intelligence to find solutions either inside or outside the courtroom.

Just 4 episodes in the leads are such well drawn and likeable characters with a lot of depth and complexity and their relationship is being so slowly and organically built, their differences and similarities, their late night chats, the scars they each carry and how they're already finding a confidant and a kindred spirit in each other.

If they continue with this quality this might end up being my favorite kdrama of the year.

I personally don't mind the suspension of disbelief needed for the cross dressing plot, it's necessary in these kinds of stories and there's no way around it. Yes it doesn't make sense that people who know her and interacted with her closely can't tell the different in height, build, voice between the two nor that most people can't tell that she's a woman but we pretend it does.

I'm more mystified at the giant plot hole in the first episode because how is it that she falls and wakes up in her Master's house, how did he know where she was or that she was injured? He or someone who knows him and her needed to have seen her fall or found her soon after for that to happen but they just had her wake up there with zero explanation.

The speech the FL gave about equality in society and how it's not truly the case because people do not have the same starting points has so much more weight now that we know that she is a very privileged person because it means she's aware of her privilege and is striving to make the world better not for people like her but people who did not get the same opportunities and support that she did.

Cdrama writers are obsessed and I mean OBSESSED with making men act like children when they get jealous, even the most powerful secure men become bumbling fools when it's jealousy time and it's so annoying. You're right they think it's cute and funny but it's just deeply stupid and concerning but they just have to shove it in there in practically every romance drama if he's not acting a fool because of her for the most inane reasons then how will we know he's soooo in love with her (sarcasm)...

You're right I am trying to treat them as two separate entities but it's a little difficult especially since I adored the novel and their relationship in it. I don't need it to be a carbon copy but I would've loved to see the same level of emotional investment from the fl in the novel where they seemed to be so in love with each other and to the same degree.

But here the more episodes I watch the more it looks like he's a lot more invested which is a shame since we rarely get relationship like this in dramas where the fl is doing all the chasing and it also falls back on the usual cdrama tropes lately when the fl is the one with the severe traumas the ml's existence is about healing and loving her but when it's the other way around with the exception of a few dramas like Hidden love or L and P, you rarely see the fl protect and support a ml in the same way, in fact he's even shown to protect her against the people causing his trauma. Anyway do you believe they showed their love was of equal standing in the end? With everything they said and did for each other?

oh I actually hate that it's not funny in the novel she tells him she loves him but she wants him to have other friends and a life outside of her because he deserves it. How's the drama after ep 18? the FL was kind of getting on my nerves does she go back to her novel self of being supportive and loving towards him like he is her? She was his biggest champion and defender in the novel and I kind of feel like the drama ruined that.

Don't mind me I mean Gyeon woo

No SA is possessed by BS and in the preview for ep 12 he tells GS to die so he can take over his body instead of SA's and GS accepts but who knows what's actually going to happen.

Oh f*ck Yeomhwa and f*ck Bong su too. Why should GS die for you? It sucks that you lost your life but what about his? He spent most of it miserable and alone why do you think you have the right to take what's left of it from him?

Her not wanting to be with him bc of her secret at first has nothing to do with it. Everything he did wasn't because he wanted to get her to date him but because he cared that much, it they wanted to show she cared in the same way they would've.
Now that they've gotten together she's affectionate I didn't say she wasn't I reiterate I said he has demonstrated time and again by his actions and words how much she means to him and we haven't gotten even a quarter of that from her. When they got together he was making speeches about what she means to him but her? Crickets.
You seem to think I'm mounting some personal attack on her character or something, I'm criticizing the writing, she's ink on paper( obviously the actress is a real person which has nothing to do with any of this) and saying I (me) prefer equal otps which this 100% hasn't been so far or even close and I wanted to put it on hold until later to see if that changed.

You mean to tell me you think they have treated each other the same way? That they've poured the same love and affection in their relationship before it even turned romantic? I literally listed examples of all the things he did for her can you tell me the equivalent of it for her?

Just go back to the comments how many are exalting the ML's love his confessions his gifts risking his life for her etc and tell me the other way around? There are barely any comments about the FL doing the same things for 2 reasons, 1st because there are barely any actions or words of that kind an 2nd because people do not care as you've demonstrated with your answer, it's enough the FL likes him back that's considered they like eo just as much, actually showing it with her actions and words is me asking too much I guess.

I'm talking about my preference and the kind of relationships I like? He's not a real person? Saying he's content with her feelings is a moot point.

I like this but I'm putting it on hold for now. The cases are interesting and so are the characters but the romance is too unbalanced so far it's 90-10 and I just do not vibe with relationships where one person is making all the effort whether it's a man or a woman.

Someone tell me if it changes in the 2nd half and we see QW show YC the same amount of love and support he's given her (i.e all the heartfelt confessions, the endless gifts, the support, the protection, the willingness to risk his life etc). A badass strong FL to me in a romance also means a good partner who is equal in her love and care for her significant other.

After binge-watching the first 12 episodes I can say this is a good one, the cases are generally well thought out and interesting, the characters are very likeable and yet feel real even the secondary ones, the directing/editing could be tighter but the writing and the characters make up for it. I also appreciate the spotlight on violence against women are still disproportionately killed by their partners or family members. One thing is I really hope this soon turns into a love of equals, where they both care as deeply for each other and stand by one another and it's not just version n°25 of a couple this year where the male lead is devotedly in love by himself and unequivocally puts her first and the female lead who always has him as number 7 on her priority list.

Absolutely it's not subversive at all, it's the same old trodden rode we've gotten for the last few years when it comes to female characters regarding romance. What makes it even more disappointing is how it hurts both the romance and the FL it claims to champion, while everyone is deluding themselves that this is the height of fictional feminism, what we get instead is a poorly written character who is used as a mouthpiece to represent a warped and entirely performative idea of female power.

And everyone is all too happy to be subscribing to this notion because most people only view romance from the ML's eyes, what his feelings are, it doesn't matter if the FL cares or not as long as he does which is again the opposite of what we should be aiming for in terms of female representation in fiction.

For a script that's pretending to be out of the ordinary and mocking the usual tropes it is following the exact same path. A miserable ML who is bending backwards for love and willing to give all he has coupled with a FL who can't be bothered to do the barest of minimums? These kinds of relationships are the bread and butter of cdrama romances.

"This is not a love story" exactly, I stopped viewing it as such because it's really not. Love requires two people willing to go to great lengths for each other. Everyone praising the FL for doing the bare minimum when she didn't have to risk a single thing yeah of course she doesn't have to but that's how love works? At least a well written fictional romance... The male lead has to break his back giving up everything and anything for her and begging her repeatedly that's seen as romantic but she doesn't have to move a finger, the double standards are so glaring sometimes it gets hard to see.

Oh then I'm going to start this, Princess Gambit is just so beyond stupid it's making me lose so many braincells coupled with the "we can't be together" BS from the FL and it's just ... No. ADWAD has lost the plot so badly it's just pissing me off at this point if even the average cnetizen online is complaining about FL's treatment of the ML then you know it's really bad since they seem to love nothing more than an obsessed guy x doesn't give an eff girl. And to think I was sooo excited for both of them, joke's on me. This kind of seems more palatable at least...