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Not so far but I suggest you wait because this has all the markings that it's going to go that way.

How's this one? Family kdramas have been so disappointing the last few years, the great ones like my father is strange, once again only come once every few years if that.

That sounds promising, I remember reading a comment here from someone who read the novel that he falls but she's only manipulating him, doesn't have time or care for love and is keeping some big secret that changes everything.

Please give me schemer x schemer, fox x wolf, badass x badass who start trying to one up each other and slowly but surely fall madly in love instead of ML who becomes a fool a few episodes in because he's in love and a FL who doesn't really reciprocate his feelings until the end and never with the same intensity (this kind of set up is getting really boring).

Thanks for the info, is there actually confirmation from an official production source that this is true or is it just rumors from weibo?

Thank you vm although I realize now why I didn't remember it, because it's not the ML saying it , it's his subordinate saying it to him, if you pay attention to the scene/voice and what says is "I was written to protect you" which doesn't make sense if it was ML to FL bc she's that's not the ML's dynamic with her original character.

Could you please link the trailer because I've seen multiple but I haven't come across this scene?

Yeah they're obsessed with this kind of dynamic and idk why either but people seem to love it mostly? Most comments seem to only want loser in love simp MLs instead of balanced healthy couples. Just this year we had first frost, best thing, perfect match, si jin, filter, everlasting longing, eat run love and so many others that were like this.
I would wait until the drama is over but that might be a while so if you can separate the 2 there's nothing wrong with finishing it. I try not to read any because they're always so different even if the novel is good the drama is nothing like it.

Oh I really doubt they will change it for the drama, in fact I think they might make it worse. Even novels which had equal relationships get turned into this kind of couple where the ml is doing all the work and the fl doesn't care let alone one that already has that in the novel. and they love their smls who are always there for the fls while sfls are almost never present even if they are ml barely gives them 5 seconds of attention. It's exhausting but besides a few rare modern dramas like you are my glory and hidden love 90% of them are like this.

Nooo I was so excited after seeing the reuters and reading the synopsis, I thought finally a FL who is smitten but you're telling me it's yet again another one where the ML is a simp and it's not an equal relationship...

The level of annoyance I feel whenever Jun Mo is on the screen is unparalleled, every single time he opens his mouth I want to reach through and slap him into oblivion.

Yup that's the way it almost always is, ML is the one who suffers and sacrifices, there are some exceptions like LBFAD, Love of divine tree, blossoming love where the sacrifice feels more or less equal or at least the FL is sacrificing something, something where the FL sacrifices more is non existent to my knowledge it's either ML doing 90% or at best 55-45 lol.

Umm if she's already tortured and murdered him when from his pov he hasn't done anything the awful stuff he's doing isn't great but makes sense I'm not saying her behavior doesn't make sense (if we find out there's a very good reason) but like I said there's a 90% chance it's a misunderstanding and him still accepting everything even knowing who she is and letting her go on with her plans to kill him is already a looot. There's a huge difference in btw what she's doing and what he's doing... And I don't really like the term "red flag" because the way it's being used has completely striped it of all meaning.

If it was both treating each other badly for whatever reason that would make sense but him helping her ruin his life for reasons he doesn't know after she repeatedly killed and abused him is not my definition of "they're both not entirely in the wrong or in the right" but to each their own.

But that wasn't even my point, I'm saying all the swooning over the ML being okay with her doing so much horrible sh*t to him for no reason as far as he knows would not be happening if the roles were reversed I've seen dramas where the ML does 1% of what the FL is doing here even before they fall in love and for good reason and everyone wants him dead and her away from him.

Plus based on spoilers and what we've seen in countless dramas before, we'll see he's always loved her and was trying to protect her and did so much for her even when she finds out it was all a misunderstanding they'll just gloss over all the stuff she did whereas again if it was the other way around as he'd be begging and grovelling and almost dying for her for 10 episodes so that she'd forgive him. Okay that was a lot of words my ultimate point here is the double standards in which both dramas and us watching them quantify things when it comes to romance depending on whether it's a FL or ML doing them.

I'm enjoying the drama but also finding the difference in what's considered romantic depending if it's the FL or ML doing it very interesting. If it was a FL was getting treated like ML is here everyone would be hating him and wishing she would get some self respect or get together with SML but since it's the ML getting tortured and killed it's seen as swoon-worthy that he accepts everything (when from his pov he doesn't even know the reason and is behaving like he hasn't actually wronged her so it's most likely a misunderstanding) because he's in love.

Is it devotion or just insanity? If a FL was taking all sorts of torture from the ML in multiple lives and accepting everything for reasons she doesn't even know the reaction would be to hate the ML and tell the FL to get some self respect.

You're right that's usually the case for a lot of xianxia but not all, this seems like it won't follow that trend, from his side sure but from her? Nah. It seems all she wants to do is torture and kill him (it's obviously because of misunderstanding) vs him when even if he doesn't know why and she's torturing him and causing him so much pain he still loves her and would do anything for her.

Yeah I know they did at her restaurant, it is a plot hole and it really bothered me as well but I just glossed over it because there is a possibility that she just didn't find her given the time and the circumstances...

Yeah this was something that confused me too, she said that she didn't remember her mom's restaurant's name or where it was and this was 30 years ago (20 years ago is when her mother died ) and the show is set in 2023 so it would be around 1993 there's no social media etc, her mom was a poor woman so there would've been no TV coverage to find her etc and there was also that comment from the man I na found who said he was finding kids because the government was doing nothing.
You're right she could've gone around orphanages looking for her or went back to the amusement park??? It doesn't make sense but you can chalk it up to no one cared and they thought she was abandoned so no one thought to take her to the park to see if her mother was there (another thing is couldn't the mother have paid for a poster to be hung up at the park in case she came back) and once she was old enough to go back by herself (17yo) her mother was already dead.

I'm not disappointed that's your opinion and you're welcome to it, as I am to mine that's she not. Clearly we've watched very different final episodes... Psychopaths don't feel remorse so her not standing herself is in direct opposition of what you're saying plus they've made it clear she only killed people whom she thought deserved it, I na tells her multiple times why didn't you kill me? And she tells her it wasn't her fault she didn't do anything wrong which again contradicts your view of her killing whomever but I digress.

She's not a psychopath though? She genuinely felt remorse for what she did despite thinking she had to do it so much so that she killed herself she literally said she couldn't stand herself anymore. She stood outside the funeral home where the body of the detective who protected her was for 30 minutes in the rain but couldn't go in, what did you think that was for? Compare that to the people who caused her mother's death and so many others misfortunes and never even remembered their names, psychopathy is not a set classification even less so in its depiction in fiction...