Kate

Getting pissed about international trainees is ridiculous, because literally everyone makes it about nationality. It's not like Korean trainees would pick other Koreans' to push off top 9 seats. If nationality was not important why all the Korean trainees and the judges made it seem like last Korean trainee to perform was their last hope?

Watching this just makes me want to rewatch Youth With You season 3. Also... great job iqiyi, making me not subscribe for vip because of the lack of professionalism in episode 2 🙂

Lee Seung Gi has a nerve talking about performing 30 songs during the concerts when he is a ballad singer 🤡 Literally NOT ONE GROUP performs all dance tracks. The sets are ALWAYS prepared to make sure there are some songs to make the performance possible. You either mix slower songs between the dance track, you have unit and solo performances so other member can take a moment off the stage, you have taking bits when idols just talk to audience, video format breaks. NO ONE just dances non stop.

The production team should be crying and thanking god that nothing serious happened. I cannot comprehend how neglectful this shit was.

i want all the judges to dance the theme song 10 times in a row and them let the people evaluate them on that 10th attempt, coz I wam 100% sure they would not be as charming a they think they would be 🤣 Even during 2-3h long concert idols with years of experience hace, they do have breaks to rest - be it video format things prepared before the concert, well planned unit, duet and solo performances etc.

why the judges even there? I care about their opinion as experts, but when the format makes it impossible for them actually objectively judge the performance, I stop giving a shit about what they say and what they think ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

The theme song evaluation was such a fucking dumb idea and both iQiyi and SBS were so fucking lucky nothing happen like what the actual fuck. If you make them dance over and over again for god truly knows how long, at least don't fucking put them on platform when they can literally pass out and die from the fall. Safety wise this was such a fucking huge neglect I cannot even comprehend how no one explained to them in a proper manner how wrong it is. Like, putting aside COMPLETELY how inhuman it was to make them dance like that over and over again, it was just fucking unsafe 🤡

What makes me the most angry is... it's just a dumb method of evaluation of skills... 68 people dancing at the same time? You won't see shit! Like, it's unfair no matter how you look at it, and while it;s true the whole industry is unfair, the judges themselves should objectively evaluate the skills of the trainees, and the "luck" should play as little of a role as possible. You cannot objectively evaluate shit when you need to judge 68 people at the same time during performance that lasts 3 minutes and 27 seconds. The whole evaluation is just unprofessional in all aspect.

Not gonna lie, personally loved Love Dive the most. The song rearrangement was amazing, visually it was stunning, they had vocals and dancing on point. And the concept stood out the most out of all the groups and performances.

I am not sure how I feel about episodes 5-6 😅
I guess it depends on where they will lead by the end.
Kind of want them to NOT end up together.
Do Hoe has way too many issues right now, he needs to figure his shit out first.
Previous episodes I was pissed at Ju Yeong for keeping in contact with Do Hoe's dad and basically being like a new son to him. This episode I am pissed with Do Hoe coz damn dude's behavior is toxic as fuck...

I honestly hope the editing for the preview is misleading coz if Lee Seung Gi legit asked if they came to be idols, after Kachine pointed out they are also human not machines, I will be so disgusted.

Being an idol does not mean you stop being a human with hardships... Instead of saying that they knew what they sign up for, how about actually addressing how fucked up the industry is and how it should be changed? Just because something currently is a norm does not mean is should be and it's correct.

Well... that was sad and frustrating.

The way we are blind to bad things happening around us in hope for improvement. The way we trust wrong people, because we don't really have a choice.

Like... yes I was frustrated with the child, but it's not like the adults did any better... And it's not like any of them had many other options to choose from.

i think i was just too shocked to give it 1 lol for me one is just boring 🤣

someone got triggered 🤡

because at the end of the day he didn't win the "super ace" title < yeah but it's not like any of the participants knew he won't win. I think most of them were fighting to win 2nd place, not really first.

however, I find it interesting that he demanded this benefit for himself instead of his teammate because he was so successful beforehand. < as i said... water song had honestly ONE main part and the rest was all support, while in fire the parts were more even. It makes sense to use it for water performance. That's why the other team that was 1st and could pick their parts ALSO wanted to use it for water.

As for lifting the shirt... ALL of them were showing the barely existing skinny abs, I just found it so funny 🤣

i think it was less about evil editing and more about how they saw Cravity's ace as someone on the same level as them, while seeing Hwanwoong as someone "above" them skill wise. In their mind most likely they honestly thought hwanwoong does not really need that part to ace the performance anyway, and him taking it means zero chance of someone else winning. While with Cravity taking the best line it just means they need to work harder to "steal" the spotlight, but it's still possible.

Also... as they themselves said - Fire song had more evenly distributed parts, while Water was Part 3 and the boys...

How would she know how HR lady would act and taking a guess would not be worth the potential risk. At the end of the day she was also the victim in this situation a d it's not on her to explain it, it's on the ex.

Also seeing jow everyone in her family has no issue punish people in professional setting for personal matters... I would place my bets on her potentially doing the same

Was she supposed to then tell and loose her job? The girl was not just a random hr lady, she had power in the company since she was related to the owner. I think it's unfair situation for her...

by supporting her horrible ex to cheat on his WIFE the HR woman < how did she support it? I don't think she did. I mean, ideally she would tell her the truth, but taking into consideration her circumstances and how she would most likely lose her job if the truth came out... I also cannot fully blame her for not saying anything. But I don;'t see how she supported the cheating.

It had some fun comedic moments that I really enjoy. Comedy is subjective, a lot of people loved the dildo scene, I found it offensive. But I did like some of the more dry humor from few scenes.

So the identity round is over and honestly, Oneus ATE. Cravity did amazing job too, they feel like baby The Boyz 😂
The biggest issue for most groups here is - they don't really have the identity to show ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Or the one given by their agency does not even fit them.

Perfect example - Younite. Outside of the show they are more bubbly and refreshing and it honestly does not match them. This round was their weakest performance. This show is a great opportunity to re-establish their identity. Personally I think the dark concept first the best. I don't mean dark sexy shit, I mean dark leaning into horror, shit like vixx voodoo doll.

8Turn... except for their first performance in round one, I don't remember anything from them 🙂At the same time that performance in round one is my 3rd favorite one from the whole show. I feel like every next round they tried to do more and more and they get lost in their own ideas... And whatever they want to show becomes unclear.

Cravity are The Boyz of this season becased on the creativity 😉 Talk To Me performance was SO GOOD. I like how they can utilize simple props in various way (this round with the cube for example). At the same time, no idea if it's just me, but they seem like the favorites of the production team 🙂

Oneus is Oneus, they are THE seniors in the team, they know what they want to show and how to show it. Mad Max themed performance WAS GREAT, they knew exactly what their strengths are and how to use them. Hwan Woong is obviously ace of aces in the show...

Tempest... sadly just forgettable. I honestly do not have anything to say coz nothing stands out and that's the biggest issue.

The CrewOne aka the dance team 😂Kind of all over the place. They said it themselves - after their performances what you think is: they are good at dancing... that's it.

The New Six - poor babies. I HONESTLY believe they are fucked coz they are under PSY's company. He is GREAT at giving creative freedom to his artists and it works... for fucking established artists. It does not work for a rookie groups. These just seem like they lack support and directions. I actually love The Next Six's music and I do think they musically wise have a specific and established identity, but who cares when they cannot really present it well coz they don't get enough help and support from the company. And it does real like that - them kids being left alone to figure shit out.

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Outside of the groups and their performance, what a shitty camera work they have this time and the editing team also has no fucking idea what they are doing. No idea what the fuck happened, but they fail to highlight the good aspects of the performances so bad, it's sad. In majority cases I would suggest just watching the FullCam version mnet uploads.

Also, not the biggest fan of the whole ace shit. Just make a separate fucking show to pick ace of aces among idols for fuck sake. Most teams are not in the business long enough to figure out the proper balance between highlighting the aces, but making sure the other members do not seem like just a background. They focus what too fucking much on the aces, or too little. It does not work more often than not. And it makes the whole voting/elimination system a fucking mess. Which I also still don;t get.

The audience is DEAD 🥲 None of them enjoys the performances... the shit we see in the ep is one thing, how stiff and with barely any reactions we see in these one take full cam versions is another... I am honestly amazed with all these groups being able to deliver such an energetic performances with audience like that. 🤡

glad to know it was helpful :)

oh yeah... I honestly disliked what they did with Mo Eum's arc at the end 🤡 don't mind her leaving for a year, but first she should have that discussion with Dan Ho, only then potentially talk to Yeon Du about being her mom etc 😭