If you have access to a VPN and GagaOOLala, I'd recommend watching there if you want to watch/support it on an official platform on release day (or you could wait for it to be uploaded on 🏴☠️ websites. Also a viable option imo!)
Edit: Please also see Alex' comment below for how to watch it on YouTube!
This is just me giving a heads-up to the people in the territories where it is set to release on Viki. I've noticed…
There is also a chance that they will still upload it to YouTube first and then it will go on Viki a few days later, which will in turn make the YouTube upload unavailable. This is kind of similar to series like Friendshit Forever and also Girl Rules, where it started airing on YouTube, but then started being uploaded onto Viki X episodes in (starting from the beginning) and subsequently those episodes would start to vanish from YouTube. This is only a hypothesis, however. We won't actually know until the episode airs.
UPDATE: Definitely not this lmfao. They said "fuck Viki viewers in particular."
Just checked and Viki says "Available in 4 days" so it seems like a lot of people might have to wait a…
This is just me giving a heads-up to the people in the territories where it is set to release on Viki. I've noticed Viki is sometimes a bit behind other platform for releases, not sure why other than "it's what the license-agreement says." First time I have seen it with a GMMTV-series though, but they also only recently started dropping them on Viki from release, so there isn't exactly a lot to go by...
Just checked and Viki says "Available in 4 days" so it seems like a lot of people might have to wait a few more days if they want to watch it legally. I'm just gonna use a VPN and watch on Gaga instead✌️
GMMTV's main demographics are teens, and high school and university are some of the settings most people can relate to in general. It's the same reason why a lot of anime are about high schoolers.
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Absolutely! The point I am trying to make is that neither did SKNN fans until they saw some kind of benefit from it by weaponizing her against other queer people—AFTER Gaga announced they removed Wu from their platform. They had several days to bring her up, but no one (or at least very few) from either side did.
In Japan it is in fact illegal for adults to engage in sexual activities with someone who is considered a minor.…
"I find some sourced that confirm my opinion," congrats, that's called confirmation bias. Also your own source says LESS than five years. How many years are between 15 and 20 again?
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Oh yes absolutely, I meant nothing against that, but I have seen people bring up Godji (and also the director) almost as some kind of gotcha in this situation, and that really doesn't sit well with me. I don't think I saw a single person bring up Godji until after Gaga announced they were removing Wu from their platform. Obviously, this is only based on what I personally saw, but it feels like no one brought up Godji until she became relevant /to them/.
Edit: I'm NOT trying to imply you are doing any of this, but some people are in fact weaponizing Godji against other queer people, and I just wanted to point that out because your comment specifically mentioned Godji and I used it kind of as a segue.
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In Japan it is in fact illegal for adults to engage in sexual activities with someone who is considered a minor. Even before they amended the national age of consent, the ages varied from prefecture to prefecture, but it ranged from 16-18.
no hate but the focus on fixed ships is irritating me kinda
I get you. It's like the characters can't just exist by themselves and they need to make sure the actors are still the actual focus. It's cute when there are cameos every now and then, but they've kind of been beating us over the head with it for a while now...
Its not grooming, thats nonsense In fact you lack to descripe a grooming thing, cause in your way every sexuel…
Hey, really quick, what is the ACTUAL age of consent in Japan? I bet you'll get it wrong!
Answer: Right now it is 16 nationally, but even before they recently amended the national age of consent, each prefecture had it set separately, ranging somewhere between 16-18. There were two Japanese territories where the age of consent was 13, and unless I am mistaken, those were populated by old people.
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I know you're not responding to my comment, but I just want to add something regarding your first point, hope that's okay.
Personally, I would have been more open to Wu being on Gaga IF they would have highlighted the trans/kathoey rep, but unfortunately that was just never where Gaga themselves put the emphasis and they instead basically just went "no guys trust us, it's still gay even if they don't say it 🌈" a couple of times and then dipped for a few days when they faced the backlash. The note they made when they announced their decision to have it removed from the platform says a lot, in my opinion.
I've seen a few people now bring up Godji, and I think that's great, but then Gaga should have been more clear on that being the reason from the get-go, and not further fuel the fire.
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I genuinely appreciate the hell out of you! Thank you so much for taking the time to both read and respond to my comments!
Yes, my main issue has always been with the way Gaga has been marketing of this series. Sorry I didn't make that very clear in my initial comment. I feel like there are definitely other ways they could've gone about accepting this kind of licensing deal, and I might have been able to look past the initial tags on the platform itself and just dismissed them as a mistake if it wasn't for the two other instances of, frankly, queerbaiting.
If you are speculating about what I think you are, then I absolutely agree. What was it that made Gaga want the license for this series in the first place? Were they always aware, or were they also—for lack of a better word—baited? We may never know, and I don't want to dwell on it for too long because it doesn't help the situation. Simply knowing it is at the very least plausible is enough.
Once again, thank you so much for being willing to have this kind of conversation with me. I really appreciate it. Usually I'm just met by people interpreting everything as an attack when my stance this entire time has more been towards Gaga and also GMMTV as a corporate entity. Being able to actually have a conversation and finding myself agreeing with most if not all of your points has been really refreshing. Thank you.
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This is so well put, thank you! My problem is with the way Gaga were initially trying to sell it with a 🌈 emoji on twitter and included tags like: Gay, Crush, BL, Office-Romance. Let's not forget how they in the comments for the announcement in their Instagram stories, they said "Everybody's gay unless they come out as straight" Is this not false advertisement or at the very least very disrespectful towards the LGBTQ+ community and the rest of the queer content on their platform? Things were already tense enough, and then they went and did that and plugged in their ears instead of responding to any criticism. Of course, they have since removed those tags, but it caused a lot of unnecessary backlash towards pretty much every party involved, including Sky and Nani.
I am aware that not every queer story needs to be a love story, I never said anything like that. You can absolutely have a story focusing on friendship and have it still be queer. I am also aware it's not exactly the first time Gaga has done this either; may I add My Strawberry Film to your list as well? The main story is certainly not queer, but there is a side character that is, but if I recall correctly, there really wasn't that much focus on it.
I'd have less of a problem with it if they were more upfront about it from the get-go, and didn't just drop this bomb out of nowhere. I lost a lot of respect for them with this.
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Of course! These are all very good points, but just recently a listing on Gaga caught so much backlash to the point they pulled it from the platform. The listing is technically still available, but it now just says "coming soon" and I believe this happened on the day of the initial release, if not the day before—granted, there were legal issues involved, but none of those legal issues technically had anything to do with Gaga (unless I am mistaken.) I think with enough backlash, we might be able to get Wu pulled from Gaga as well, but for now, Gaga prefers sticking their head in the sand. If you're able, please do boycott watching it on Gaga and if you're subscribed, I urge you to unsubscribe and state the reason as blatant false advertisement (though it did get corrected a few days later after even more backlash) for a non-queer series.
I acknowledge we might not be able to get it pulled this time, but we might still be able to stop it from happening again in the furure!
Edit: Please also see Alex' comment below for how to watch it on YouTube!
This is only a hypothesis, however. We won't actually know until the episode airs.
UPDATE: Definitely not this lmfao. They said "fuck Viki viewers in particular."
Edit: I'm NOT trying to imply you are doing any of this, but some people are in fact weaponizing Godji against other queer people, and I just wanted to point that out because your comment specifically mentioned Godji and I used it kind of as a segue.
Answer: Right now it is 16 nationally, but even before they recently amended the national age of consent, each prefecture had it set separately, ranging somewhere between 16-18. There were two Japanese territories where the age of consent was 13, and unless I am mistaken, those were populated by old people.
Personally, I would have been more open to Wu being on Gaga IF they would have highlighted the trans/kathoey rep, but unfortunately that was just never where Gaga themselves put the emphasis and they instead basically just went "no guys trust us, it's still gay even if they don't say it 🌈" a couple of times and then dipped for a few days when they faced the backlash.
The note they made when they announced their decision to have it removed from the platform says a lot, in my opinion.
I've seen a few people now bring up Godji, and I think that's great, but then Gaga should have been more clear on that being the reason from the get-go, and not further fuel the fire.
Yes, my main issue has always been with the way Gaga has been marketing of this series. Sorry I didn't make that very clear in my initial comment. I feel like there are definitely other ways they could've gone about accepting this kind of licensing deal, and I might have been able to look past the initial tags on the platform itself and just dismissed them as a mistake if it wasn't for the two other instances of, frankly, queerbaiting.
If you are speculating about what I think you are, then I absolutely agree. What was it that made Gaga want the license for this series in the first place? Were they always aware, or were they also—for lack of a better word—baited? We may never know, and I don't want to dwell on it for too long because it doesn't help the situation. Simply knowing it is at the very least plausible is enough.
Once again, thank you so much for being willing to have this kind of conversation with me. I really appreciate it. Usually I'm just met by people interpreting everything as an attack when my stance this entire time has more been towards Gaga and also GMMTV as a corporate entity. Being able to actually have a conversation and finding myself agreeing with most if not all of your points has been really refreshing. Thank you.
My problem is with the way Gaga were initially trying to sell it with a 🌈 emoji on twitter and included tags like: Gay, Crush, BL, Office-Romance. Let's not forget how they in the comments for the announcement in their Instagram stories, they said "Everybody's gay unless they come out as straight" Is this not false advertisement or at the very least very disrespectful towards the LGBTQ+ community and the rest of the queer content on their platform?
Things were already tense enough, and then they went and did that and plugged in their ears instead of responding to any criticism. Of course, they have since removed those tags, but it caused a lot of unnecessary backlash towards pretty much every party involved, including Sky and Nani.
I am aware that not every queer story needs to be a love story, I never said anything like that. You can absolutely have a story focusing on friendship and have it still be queer.
I am also aware it's not exactly the first time Gaga has done this either; may I add My Strawberry Film to your list as well? The main story is certainly not queer, but there is a side character that is, but if I recall correctly, there really wasn't that much focus on it.
I'd have less of a problem with it if they were more upfront about it from the get-go, and didn't just drop this bomb out of nowhere. I lost a lot of respect for them with this.
I acknowledge we might not be able to get it pulled this time, but we might still be able to stop it from happening again in the furure!