axdxex:Oooooh 4minutes is here... but idk if I'm ready for 4minutes ;;
also-- where is it streaming ?
I believe it will releasing on One31 and VIU. Not sure about other platforms. Does anybody else know?
Question, is there an uncut version of City of Stars?
Looking at my list I may have to push back City of Stars and drop by some series from 2020, 2021 and 2022 and a movie from 1998. These should take about a week or less. Depends on how good they are lol.
Simi_Tutu:I did it, and it worked for me! But I did the same thing last night, and it only worked briefly. I guess we will see what happens today
Light L:its working briefly to me, for now sometimes i get notifications and sometimes not
I'm consistently NOT getting any notifications. :-(
I have to manually visit this thread and check for new posts. I know I know, it's not that hard...but there are several threads to keep up with.
ETA: Prolly means I'm not getting notices when others leave a comment for me on the drama pages or feeds. Whaaaa!!!
RiqueXinw:Total rating score - 7/10
In addition to my previous post regarding my thoughts on this series there are mainly three things I want to add. Firstly, how the writers used Shirasaki character did not frustrate but rather confused me. It is established that Shirasaki is an awkward character who is very impulsive and candid about his thoughts and feelings regardless of the social atmosphere. We see this in many instances; one example is how back in college he voiced is objections to script changes regardless of who is in charge. Therefore what confused me is how this same individual did a complete 180 turn and became so hesitant in voicing his feelings openly. At first I summed it up to him being in love and its effects but later on I found that I was just making an excuse for this contradicting characterisation by the writers. If I am to stick to characterisation of Shirasaki in the beginning of the series as well as every other instance in the series that does not include romance, I expect him to just blurt out his feelings unabashed. Him being candid and awkward is his whole personality so could liking someone be that substantial that he becomes a reluctant personality? Yes, he thought that Hayama had long lasting feelings for someone else and yes, he is inexperienced in love but again with his demeanour one would expect him to blurt out something of the effect to, "I think I am starting to like you!", the moment he had an inkling that he liked Hayama. Could it be that JBL writers are so dedicated to the penchant of making characters stubborn, hesitant and frustrating that charactersation is bound to bend to its will?
Secondly, while I understood the reason for Hayama being aloof, I felt that its justification could have been explored a little more. His mother's failing modelling career, if I remember correctly, caused her to become depressed which affected how he was socialised. She told him to smile and not show his teeth and how she placed such great emphasis that he was a pretty face that he internalised that he was a pretty face to everyone and no one cared to see beyond his attractiveness. We see where in his adult life in college and even after becoming a celebrity he was adulated to the point that he became a cynosure. However this had an adverse effect on Hayama as it solidified what his mother ingrained causing him to become an eccedentesiast. Now ,what I would have liked to see is an interaction between his mother and him during high school to see how her words on him just being an attractive face affected him. This is his teenage years, a very critical time in one's development into adulthood where a lot of socailisation takes place so I would have loved to see how his mother's influence further ingrained the belief that he is just a pretty face. I also would have loved to see an in person interaction or phone call between his mother and him during the shooting of the series starring Shirasaki and himself to see how her words still affect him.
This all brings me to my major point, (this is why I had to wait until today to post my thoughts because I needed to formulate them in a straight argument lol), which is that Shirasaki's personality being the opposite to Hayama's should have been the push towards Hayama defrosting. This patent antithesis was the reason why Hayama fell for Shirasaki in the first place, and the fact that this was established should have been built on to show how Shirasaki broke down Hayama's walls gradually instead of them just showing these walls shaking in reaction to jealousy, but lo and behold in true Japanese fashion Shirasaki had to become this stubborn and reluctant character right up until the very end.
Anyways, onto some minor points (I am rapping it up I promise lol), I did not like the theme song because I thought it did not fit the atmosphere of the series. However what I did like most about the series is that it was original in story-line in how it intertwined the romantic development of the characters with the characters they were acting as in the series they where filming. I also liked how they explored the effects and experiences of becoming an actor and celebrity through Shirasaki, and the fact that it was not only his first big role but he was also paired with a celebrity provided for a unique perspective of things; especially since right now Net is paired with a new actor due to the split of NetJames (Bed Friend) and his new acting partner has been receiving some unwarranted backlash.
Oh before I forget (don't worry I am not discussing anything else lol)
@p43425 I see what you meant by sex bomb because this needs deep anatomisation
The things I want to say.
RiqueXinw:I may have to push back City of Stars
"City of Stars" is sweet but I wouldn't call it a "must see":
I just watched a newly posted 42-minute BL on Youtube (Wayufilm channel) called "One Day Miracle". It's the story of the love that develops between two handicapped boys, one of them in a wheelchair. It's a simple story, but sweet and uplifting. It's ultra-low-budget (in fact, just filmed in Wayufilm's office in Chiang Mai). There's an uncut version with three steamy scenes behind a paywall, but I only watched the free version. (Wayufilm tends to be overly aggressive about asking for donations and subscriptions, although I also recognise that it's not easy for them.) Wayufilm stuff is a mixed bag, some of it better than others (and some of their BLs a bit overboard with the lurid appeal), but I thought this one was really nice.
RiqueXinw:At first I summed it up to him being in love and its effects but later on I found that I was just making an excuse for this contradicting characterisation by the writers. If I am to stick to characterisation of Shirasaki in the beginning of the series as well as every other instance in the series that does not include romance, I expect him to just blurt out his feelings unabashed. Him being candid and awkward is his whole personality so could liking someone be that substantial that he becomes a reluctant personality?
Totally respect your take but--- let me just add my two cents...
I do not think Shirasaki's personality shifted because he was in love. His personality shifted because :
1) He left the ideal world of college and entered the real world, and found out things didn't work as he expected, he couldn't land jobs as an actor (it's been years), he was serving tables, he was disillusioned, and he lost confidence in his craft and as person (there's something about finishing college and not being able to find a job that is really sad and depressing)
2) When Shirasaki and Hayama where in college, Shirasaki saw him as an equal, that's why he could voice his thoughts, but now he sees him as someone who has accomplished much more than he has, and he therefore feels unworthy.
axdxex:he lost confidence in his craft and as person (there's something about finishing college and not being able to find a job that is really sad and depressing)
2) When Shirasaki and Hayama where in college, Shirasaki saw him as an equal, that's why he could voice his thoughts, but now he sees him as someone who has accomplished much more than he has, and he therefore feels unworthy.
Ahh, I see so because of this lost in confidence he has become small in voice not and not so out right with his opinions and this has filtered into him becoming less outspoken to Hayama because Hayama has now succeeded where he failed hence as you said he feels unworthy and would think it presumptuous of himself to declare his feelings. I definitely see your point and I take it. Now I have another reason why I wanted Hayama's mother to be more involved in the plot because Shirasaki would see the effects (perhaps over hear a phone call) and now see that while Hayama was accomplished he has his own issues and that would make him seem more *human* (lack of a better term.) which would allow for some more scenes on an intimate and personal level which would allow for feelings to be aired out fully.
axdxex:(there's something about finishing college and not being able to find a job that is really sad and depressing)
On a personal level, I pray against this please Lord let this not be my experience ? (crying emoji if you don't see it)
Twins Episode 7
I understand that Zee is unable to participate in volleyball due to his injury, but it's weird how cautious everyone is around him. Sprite, his parents, and even Salmon are going out of their way to ensure he doesn't lose his place on the team. His reaction to the situation is quite extreme. He's treating everyone poorly and not thinking clearly at all. If I didn't know better, I would have said maybe his head was injured during the assault, and perhaps it's affecting his moods, but this behavior seems to be his usual way.
He accuses his brother of creating problems, but he's the one who exacerbated the situation. Does he truly desire to be part of the team? He didn't seem to be enthusiastic before he was injured. The team is facing difficulties and deteriorating relationships due to his unpleasant demeanor.
I'm curious about how he managed to join the team, especially since he never practices with any of the other guys. How can he improve in a team sport if he only plays by himself? He's supposedly an incredibly talented player, but we've never seen him interacting with the team. It's hard to believe that he could have reached a level to even qualify for tryouts.
Considering what I mentioned before, I'm not implying that he can't feel angry, but he should at least recognize that he would be in a difficult situation without his brother stepping in for him. I'm sure that there are underlying childhood issues at play. The desire to switch places with Sprite must have originated from the pressure exerted by his parents to excel in sports and their harmful habit of comparing him and his brother.
Nevertheless, they're all letting Zee talk over them like he's the adult. He's in a hospital bed. Like you're the adult, put him in his place and make him listen to you because he's being a spoiled brat in my eyes. I don't understand both parents; they have no problem telling Sprite what to do and making him feel like his efforts are for naught."
I absolutely love his character. He's hard-working, never complains, and is self-sacrificing. Nobody's talking about the fact that he's willing to risk his sports career to save his brothers. Like this kid can't get a break, I just want to jump through my computer screen and give him the biggest hug.
One last thing: Zee treats Salmon with disdain, as though she is nothing more than gum that's been stepped on. If he doesn't appreciate her, I certainly will take her!
Anyway, sorry for the long post. I just had to get that off my chest because while this drama has low ratings, I'm actually quite enjoying it, with the exception of Zee!
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