You know, its wierd, I notice these two guys seem to show up a lot in the shows I like, but, surprisingly, they're never technically "important" characters, This Guy tends to show up in a lot of shows I watch as one of, if not the, primary antagonist, and This Guy tends to show up frequently too, usually as a slightly larger minor character, typically on the friendly (or at least not antagonist) side. They both play their roles well, and definitely contribute to how good the show is, even though at least one of them doesn't really play "important" people, those shows still wouldn't be the same without them