darkn3ss wrote: * >>>> When I was watching it up until ep 11 , I really thought that Do Jin was dad, but now I'm thinking that Do Jin knows who the dad his, but it is not his, my money Yoon-shi or Tae- San, because if it's Jung Rock it will be just way too obvious that the player is the one stuck with an extra-marital kid. What I really not hoping for his that the ex comes back and she want to rekindle the fire, that would cliché and it would in my opinion ruin the flow of the drama. On other front I totally waiting for Yi Soo answer to the living together question, that would be so hilarious seeing has Yoon lives with him too. And seriously I also think that Tae San is being blind at the fact that his bestfriend loves his sister, or he's just being a poor sport, because seriously the other already caught on to it, so why should he be the only one that act like he doesn't know anything. And I still don't get what the problem between Jung Rok and his wife, I mean if they don't love each other shouldn't they just put each other out of their misery. And who else is thinking that Se-ra carreer is probably over now because of that eye.

Lmao @ the Jerry springer comment , I can see the full on head butt between the friends lol.


My guess about Jung Rok and wife. Contain ep 12 spoilers -> I don't think his wife can get pregnant. In ep 12 she didn't drink the herbal medicine and her reaction after he mentioned wanting children. I think she is using his womanizing as an excuse to push him away rather than dealing with the shame she would feel by admiting she can't have children to her husband. I do think both of them still love each other. This is all my guess which probably has no truth behind it. Also a great Jerry Springer moment would be -> The four men sitting anxiously and then the doctor entering the room. Looks at the sheet and then says "Jung Rok is not the father." I can see him jumping up and down cheering and pointing at his friends and saying 'told you so' and then he would notice all their solemn looks and sit back down. I think that moment would he hilarious...
travis wrote: My guess about Jung Rok and wife. Contain ep 12 spoilers -> I don't think his wife can get pregnant. In ep 12 she didn't drink the herbal medicine and her reaction after he mentioned wanting children. I think she is using his womanizing as an excuse to push him away rather than dealing with the shame she would feel by admiting she can't have children to her husband. I do think both of them still love each other. This is all my guess which probably has no truth behind it. Also a great Jerry Springer moment would be -> The four men sitting anxiously and then the doctor entering the room. Looks at the sheet and then says "Jung Rok is not the father." I can see him jumping up and down cheering and pointing at his friends and saying 'told you so' and then he would notice all their solemn looks and sit back down. I think that moment would he hilarious...


I don't think that ***any of them are the father*** He is just searching for something.
Evony wrote: YAY! It's soo good that you didn't drop it :)
A first I wasn't too enhtusiastic about this drama too: there are so many dramas with younger and more handsome cast. But after watching two episodes I was sure: even if the main actors are not as pretty as Lee Min Ho they can 1.) act and 2.) prove that the attractiveness doesn't depend on age. And that's why I love the F40 - this is new quality in k-dramas for sure.


Me too I watched ep 1 (when I was in a bit of a drama funk) & thought these ahjussis aren't doing it for me...but then i gave it another go after some gentle persuasion from a couple of people & I'm so glad I did its an excellent drama, well written, edited, directed & acted...hats off to the F40 long may they reign :D
purplenette wrote: I don't think that ***any of them are the father*** He is just searching for something.


agree...
*up until now, we only know that Colin thinks one of the four is his biological father, and his father now is not...
so in my theory, maybe Colin after he knows that his father is not his biological father, he tried to search who is his and found the picture of his mom with the four..and he thinks that it must be one of the four...
and for weird expression by KDJ every time EunHui's name is mentioned... maybe he knows who the father is, or knows what actually happened in the past..
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purplenette wrote: I don't think that ***any of them are the father*** He is just searching for something.


soracantabile wrote: agree...
*up until now, we only know that Colin thinks one of the four is his biological father, and his father now is not...
so in my theory, maybe Colin after he knows that his father is not his biological father, he tried to search who is his and found the picture of his mom with the four..and he thinks that it must be one of the four...
and for weird expression by KDJ every time EunHui's name is mentioned... maybe he knows who the father is, or knows what actually happened in the past..
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agree...it is possible...although it would be fun if the father turned out to be one of them lol
KamZ wrote: agree...it is possible...although it would be fun if the father turned out to be one of them lol


indeed..lol
JongReok -> haha...even laughing imagine his reaction knowing that
TaeSan -> so Meahri become Colin's aunt?lol
Yoon -> now Meahru become Colin's mom or father's gf or whatever it is..hahaha
DoJin -> this will be sad... :( *because i think YiSoo was neglected by her mom..so she must be very mad if DoJin neglected his son*
soracantabile wrote: indeed..lol
JongReok -> haha...even laughing imagine his reaction knowing that
TaeSan -> so Meahri become Colin's aunt?lol
Yoon -> now Meahru become Colin's mom or father's gf or whatever it is..hahaha
DoJin -> this will be sad... :( *because i think YiSoo was neglected by her mom..so she must be very mad if DoJin neglected his son*



Well first @ travis, I had no problem imagining Jung Rok happy dance @ the doctor office that so like something he would do. And as for him and his wife I have no doubt that they love each other but I just have the feelings that there are tons of unsaid drama between the two of them, hence the situation they are facing now, and we must admit that Rok need some growing up.>>>>>>@ sora
Well Yi Soo would be really stupid to be mad at Do Jin , because I'm pretty sure that Colin is not his, and that he may knows whose Colin's dad, and also that if he was really Colin dad's I pretty sure that Eun hee would not have told him so he would not have neglected his son because he wanted but mostly because he did not know. lol for some reason I really want Colin to be Yoon's or Tae San's son just because it would be an hilarious situation with Meh Ah Ri
purplenette wrote: I don't think that ***any of them are the father*** He is just searching for something.

This was my same thought affter watching ep. 11 and 12.
Well, I was totally wrong. Now that we know that ***Do Jin*** is the father.

OK...can someone explain the Korean culture to me about this situation. I'm sure it is because I live in the states, but I'm confused. ***What difference does it make to Do Jin and Yi Soo's relationship to find out that he has a child with his first love??? I mean it is shocking for them and I get that Do Jin may need time to come to grips with it. I just don't understand why it is a break up situation.***
@ purplenette


*** a few things make this a "break up" situation.

1st, having a child out of wedlock is portrayed in dramas as being viewed by korean society the way it was viewed by american society say 30 years or more ago. it's like social suicide. you can even lose your job over it. Do Jin will probably lose clients if certain folk were to find out. now you have to take the drama portrayal of it with a grain of salt. i dont know any one who actually lives in S.Korea but from actual news articles about celeb scandles i estimate the drama portrayal of the seriousness of this is probably about 70-75% accurate.

2nd, Yi soo's family will very likely object to the relationship once they find out he had a child out of wedlock. even in america many parents would still be reluctant, in Korea however, there is a much greater importance placed on what "the Elders" say and think. this of course gets played up for dramas.


so all in all i would venture a guess that Do Jin wouldnt want Yi Soo to be hurt by all the crap he's now likely to get from society at large.
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cityhunter83 wrote: @ purplenette


*** a few things make this a "break up" situation.

1st, having a child out of wedlock is portrayed in dramas as being viewed by korean society the way it was viewed by american society say 30 years or more ago. it's like social suicide. you can even lose your job over it. Do Jin will probably lose clients if certain folk were to find out. now you have to take the drama portrayal of it with a grain of salt. i dont know any one who actually lives in S.Korea but from actual news articles about celeb scandles i estimate the drama portrayal of the seriousness of this is probably about 70-75% accurate.

2nd, Yi soo's family will very likely object to the relationship once they find out he had a child out of wedlock. even in america many parents would still be reluctant, in Korea however, there is a much greater importance placed on what "the Elders" say and think. this of course gets played up for dramas.


so all in all i would venture a guess that Do Jin wouldnt want Yi Soo to be hurt by all the crap he's now likely to get from society at large.
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Aaaahhhh!!! It makes more since now. Thanks!!!
I'm a bit sad, for me the latest episodes were not as good as the previous ones :( I know that they had to give this (a bit obvious) plot twist to make things interesting but I can't help but think that they could do it better and less cliched. I still love this drama but miss this quirky humour that was present up to those last episodes.
Call me crazy but I'm not at all convince, with the development oft everything , I will stick to my analysis and we all see at the end that the conclusion may not be at all what we think>>>>>>>> I don't care how many time they say it , if there's no DNA testing I don't Believe he's DO Jin, there's something that not right in this story. @@ I so mad ....
darkn3ss wrote: Call me crazy but I'm not at all convince, with the development oft everything , I will stick to my analysis and we all see at the end that the conclusion may not be at all what we think>>>>>>>> I don't care how many time they say it , if there's no DNA testing I don't Believe he's DO Jin, there's something that not right in this story. @@ I so mad ....


me too.... *even until they showed the DNA test, i still can't believe it's him...something must be wrong!! >_<*