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That visual helps a lot, I am just missing the blood element literally. It would be nice if their bite glowed or they had some leakage of some fluid somewhere or a sore someplace that would be like: HA! He really is!

Ah, I combined and ment both groups in that sentence, first belonged to us, second referred to characters really. One is just inside problem (inside the world), the other is for outside world and how to read that, if i am new to the genre.
Aaaaah! TYVM for telling me, I indeed missed that. Wow "Most discover it through testing, usually done in their mid-teens and most likely mandated by the Omegaverse government" is the first time i hear that abd understand it as such, I think - was that part of ABO Desire?
We absolutelly need to have that discussion. And the enigma discussion, i think (are there Enigma-Omega stories? How much more bad They ger in comparison to Alfa-Omega? :D).
Oh my, hope you sleep soundly already, wishing you proper, full and through, well deserved rest. Thank you for your explanations again.

lollll, riiight? that, too, but seriously, every day it is like - aaaaa! never more series before that are SO. GOOD (and we were starving after chinese series, so...) like monday is Are the Sexy Buttocks Not Good?, tuesday is Knot, Wednesday is Blue Lips and My Summer of You, Thursday The Prosecutor's Proposal!!!!, Friday A Dog and a Plane,
04:00 PMThe Servant Prince for me additionally now Bittersweet Love,
Deep In, Don't Be Too Emotional and A Winter Sun Wakes the Wind in Spring Hills' Dream i wait for now for, so I have some back-up, oh, plus
Love Hurts! - and newly Class Crush Crisis which is we shall see, Saturday is A Sudden Kiss after the Night Shift, Deep In, A Winter Sun Wakes the Wind in Spring Hills' Dream and Bittersweet Love are airing too? :-O I thought not... well, The Fire, The Edge of Horizon AND PAYBACK, now the only free day Sunday is now starting Duty First, Kiss Later, Match Point AND Your Third?!!! PLUS My Ex's Wedding i can start watching now... finally, as it is last ep. Like - omg, where and when do i start series i havent seen yet or new korean non bl projects??? 😱😱😱

I actually agree with a lot of what you said. 😄

I don't think a series needs layers of symbolism or complex metaphors to be good. Entertainment is a perfectly valid goal, and if a show succeeds at engaging its audience, that's already an achievement. Likewise, I completely agree that no series—no matter how objectively well made—is going to appeal to everyone. Personal taste will always play a huge role.

Where we probably differ is in how much weight we give to awards and popularity. Awards, even jury-based ones, are definitely a sign that a production did something very well, and I don't dismiss that. At the same time, juries are still made up of people with their own preferences, and history is full of acclaimed films and shows that some viewers simply don't connect with. So for me, awards are some evidence of quality, but not definitive proof that every aspect of a series works equally well—or that every viewer, including me, will feel the same about it.

As for rankings and the general public, I don't think they "don't mean anything"—they clearly show that a series resonated with a lot of people, and that's valuable. I just don't think popularity automatically invalidates criticism, in the same way criticism doesn't invalidate the enjoyment of millions of viewers.

So I don't think we're actually that far apart. We both agree fandoms can become defensive, that people should be able to express different opinions respectfully, and that taste is subjective. My point was never "people shouldn't like the series." It was simply that someone can acknowledge its success, awards, and popularity while still having criticisms of it.

Yes, I mean—

* Increase in body temperature = illness.
* Intensification of natural scent and pheromones = I guess something comparable to a woman's cycle; that might be more species-specific, but it's still not very tangible. Right now it's a bit too vague for me to really grasp.
* A dramatic increase in sex drive = that could theoretically be caused by all sorts of things, honestly. Even good food, feeling safe and secure, or, again, a woman's cycle.

And a painful physical desire that can only be fully alleviated by another person satisfying that need—and, in the case of bonded partners, through the release of "comfort pheromones"—again, parts of it are vague, and parts of it only really exist within ABO. For someone new to the genre (or "uneducated," as you put it), I think it would be difficult to recognize that as proof.

Take unmated omegas, for example. They would feel this overwhelming craving, but they wouldn't necessarily know what they were craving. So from their perspective, there isn't really anything concrete confirming, "Oh, this is definitely heat."

I have no doubts about Nakhun, though. He's obviously from a family that's deeply rooted in all of this. Even without the obvious signs, he'd probably interpret those changes through the lens of ABO first. I can imagine that having a mate intensifies the experience—and the emotional side of it might catch him by surprise—but I don't expect him to fail to recognize the physical signs.

I hope we'll get to see their tandem rut/heat. That is going to be quite the dance. 😄

(And I *really* want to see Pat trying to ignore the rut. There is absolutely no way he'll succeed. 😂 I'll give him bonus points if he at least makes an honest attempt.)

right??? <3

idk how you, but i reeeeeeaaaaaallyyyyyyy like this one <3

whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?!!! why? 😭😭😭

Hey, thank you so much for the elaborate explanation! It really helped and answered most of my questions! 😊

I think what I was really fishing for was some kind of obvious physical manifestation or unmistakable sign—is that a strange thing to expect? From the way you describe it, though, it sounds more like it's something you recognize through experience rather than through one clear-cut symptom. So, in that sense, it seems perfectly normal that omegas (and alphas) wouldn't necessarily know right away what's happening.

One thing I'm still not sure I understood from either series, though: **when** do people actually find out what they are? Is it something they're born being-knowing (obviously not here, at least the knowing side), does it become apparent at a certain age, ar the regular cycles triggered by hormones at one age-point, stress, mate, genetics, or something else entirely? It almost sounds like, unless you've already gone through it a few times and learned to recognize the signs, you can't really say with 100% certainty, "This means I'm in heat," or "This is definitely rut." Am I understanding that correctly?

As for your side note—thank you for mentioning it. 😊 I honestly don't remember names very well, and most of the time I don't even remember the disagreements themselves. I don't really carry those discussions with me or take them personally.

I actually remember one particularly bizarre situation where we strongly agreed with someone in one discussion while strongly disagreeing in another - at the same time, and neither of us seemed to recognize the other, both of us keeping the friends status in meantime. To me, those were simply two separate conversations about two separate topics. Because of that—and I imagine I'm not the only person who sees it that way—I don't really have any reason to carry disagreements beyond the discussion they happened in.

So, thank you again for the olive branch. It's genuinely appreciated, and consider it happily accepted. 🍃

P.S. Any idea if that was heat in the previous episode? 👀

Same here, I just think live action suits omegaverses way more than written stories, however it always depends on the project itself and how good it is.🌞🌞🌞🥰🌷

btw, i say it as someone who is more into office romance than to abo verse... just saying

nah, this is better than My Stubborn, even if ppl dont see it yet.
Thank you for your extended explanation, it is on point. <3

öf course, or else why would they be a/O? :D

ohno, wait a second - so was or was not Pat in heat last episode?

...also, can anyone help, pls? Are there any rules for heat? When, how long, anything shortens/prolongs it, how comes alpha is not 100 % sure if his omega is in heat or not, how does omega recognises he/she is, how does alpha know 100 % he/she is in rut aaand - bonus Q - does ones rut/heat always trigger the other's rut/heat? And also, how does it work in relationshops alpha-beta or beta-omega, are there any bites/ownership, change of smells, that off-put other potentionally interested animals... eh... beasts? TYVM 🙏

ty, i think i start seeing them even sooner than you, but now should be still safe, TYVM!! <3333

can someone help, pls? i need to know when exactly i should start avoid social medias and platforms to avoid spoilers and ai does not want to tell me, when exactly is korea premiering this series? tyvm!

Oooh, i see, thanks!😘

Tv? What is TV?:D

also i checked out what you are currently watching and... seriously, do you want to kill yourself? :D 🥹 I would never dare to combine 2 big chinese series. and look what mix are you watching there!

ahhh, tyvm! 🙏