Half of Episode 2, with coffee in hand. Well, now that I've accepted what was bad, I can focus on the rest. Because I'm still curious. As the pitch presumed, there are some good plot ideas in the way of forcing the characters to incorporate the main situation. With different motivations. It is certainly classic, but nevertheless well constructed. Some of the characters have a good potential for annoyance and assholery.
if u want only good stories then go read books why to watch dramas. imo this is not that bad story either
No. It's different medium. You can't compare. If when I watch a drama, I don't hope for a good story, SO WHY ? A screenplay is supposed to be a crazy good story on screen. Without a good story, just look at painting.
The actors recite their lines so much that I feel like I'm watching a Taiwanese drama. I forgot to mention the ultimate horror: the addition of unbearable little sound effects punctuating every "comical" gesture of the characters. Like those in variety shows. Sssspop..... swchiiiiiiiz... plop.... sviizzzzzz.... wwwhuup... whhip..... schwiiiiii. The aggressiveness of this drama against my intelligence is limitless.
This is perhaps the single best comment I've ever seen on MDL. An article in it's own right. I must agree whole…
I'm fully agree with you about Goblin influence. Any director watching this could think about the way to do something as sophisticated about visual magic. Even if you disagree with the article about Sisyphus, I hope you still enjoyed the part about the drama history. ;-)
Well written objective article! Easy to read points backed with examples. Very funny captions on the screenshots!Looking…
Thank you. I make risky assumptions. But on the other hand the facts force me to do so, when I see what is obvious. I was trying to analyze objectively, but honestly, it's something very difficult. As you mention, the commitment of the jTBC channel should not be underestimated. They know perfectly well that making SF dramas is difficult, and that the audience is not naturally favorable. They believed in this project and invested in it! They are professionals as well as people of integrity. If they chose this script, and even more so to make it their 10th anniversary, it is a decision weighed very heavily. Indeed, time must play its part, as it was the case for other dramas of the same kind. It is not the kind of instant success. It spreads little by little in the other countries, as the broadcasting contracts go on. I don't think all the points I've made will be persistent, but some will. I'm sure they will. You can't put Gun-Fu fights in a drama, in the same way as in movies, without it leaving an impact.
The pitch was really good. So, I jumped with pleasure in this drama. After 20 minutes of episode one......... Damn, it's so bad. All is already done before. All sound fake, artificial, boring. I could say "outdated". Of course it's outdated. But there is also so many outdated dramas that were very good. If it's outdated, it's just outdated by taking the worst points of olders dramas, not the good ones. Terrible bad acting, false crying scene, aarrrhhhhhh, I feel like someone drill my brain!!! It even make me feel "Radio Romance" was good. At least, there is one of my favorite actress.
HAHA @ The K2. Wish ML had ended up with SFL though...
This gives me one more drama to motivate me, thank you! Unfortunately, people don't really vote in the direction of the list. Namely: the absolute bitch. Actually, Mr Queen was voted, as if people were only voting for their favorite drama. The second female lead of the drama was one of the most innofensive I've seen. My initial order is: - Rooftop prince, Stairway to heaven, Temptation of wife, Moon embrace the sun.
Bravo for your first article. It's concise. I've watched several dramas of this list, it would be too long to comment. My favorite : The Penthouse. Then SKY Castle and The World of the married. Beyond evil : I didn't watched.
About dark drama : L.U.C.A. The drama is known because there is many action, but I rarely watched something so violent. Situations are harsh. Last episodes are very difficult to stand. Nightmare.
"That is not comedy." I fear to try others dramas of this writer. There is some case when crazy facial expressions work, when the drama is more balanced. I think about "Incarnation of money". When the sidekick disguise as a madman to enter the psychiatric hospital. Here, he was damn funny. But I think it's because it's related to the plot and the situation, there is a reason behind, and the comedy stick to the story. When comedy come suddenly from nowhere, slapstick, people screaming, without any other support, it's so ulcerating.
For me sisyphus is the most kdrama i've ever seen in my life, the scenario of apocalypse and war are amazing,…
Hello, I understand that such a drama can make this effect. It happened to me too, for other dramas. It is indeed impressive. ;-)
For budget reasons, it is not possible to compare 365, which has a very different plot. However, within the limits of the budget, 365 makes the best of its possibilities. The filmography is beautiful, some sets like the Zian institute or the cliff path are perfect.
A time travel story must have a concept. And different stories of this kind have different concepts. Fortunately, otherwise we would always watch the same story. ;-)
These are opinion articles, various ones at that, depending on whether people liked the drama or not. I already know pretty much what people say. Of course, there are contradictory opinions. For example, some people think that the romance is not emphasized enough. Others think the opposite. On one criticism you quote, the person is unable to envisage an open ending, in the same way some other people can't accept a sad ending. The ending was not rushed. There is just that 5 minutes at the end without explanation. Then we can think that what we saw before wasn't maybe what happened. We take a look at details of various scenes of the last episode, and see how it is connected to the very last end. Many great movies does often that.
I am not focusing on those points here. I am trying to observe objective facts. Even if it is difficult to avoid a part of opinion, and the whole article start with a risky assomption. For the script for example. Someone may say that the story is boring or confusing, and someone else that it is captivating. But what interests me is the complexity of writing such a story. The difficulty to structure it. Then, not necessarily the answer to all the phenomena, but the logic of cause and effect in the narrative. Also, the way the chronology of the story is built: the choice to regularly include scenes from the future. This reinforces the idea of the time bubble in which the past is defined according to the future and vice versa. This allows to create scenes of great emotional intensity, like the end of episode 8. As you can see, debating this will be the equivalent of redoing all the comments and analysis made since weeks, here, on soompi or on my favorite blog. I'm throwing in the towel on this one!
One of my theories about the ending also involves Camus' philosophy. Sisyphus was not connected to a specific character. See my last comment here: https://mydramalist.com/discussions/sisyphus-the-myth/61243-the-ending-of-sisyphus-the-myth-spoilers Giving access to another blog where this is explained further. (I have the same profile picture here and there). The main point is that Sisyphus makes peace with himself and accepts his absurd fate.
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I like to tickle a bit...
But maybe more boring...
Well, now that I've accepted what was bad, I can focus on the rest. Because I'm still curious.
As the pitch presumed, there are some good plot ideas in the way of forcing the characters to incorporate the main situation. With different motivations. It is certainly classic, but nevertheless well constructed.
Some of the characters have a good potential for annoyance and assholery.
In two words : BORING CIRCUS.
If when I watch a drama, I don't hope for a good story, SO WHY ?
A screenplay is supposed to be a crazy good story on screen.
Without a good story, just look at painting.
And let's be fair, main actor a low cost version of Kim Young Dae.
I forgot to mention the ultimate horror: the addition of unbearable little sound effects punctuating every "comical" gesture of the characters. Like those in variety shows.
Sssspop..... swchiiiiiiiz... plop.... sviizzzzzz.... wwwhuup... whhip..... schwiiiiii.
The aggressiveness of this drama against my intelligence is limitless.
Even if you disagree with the article about Sisyphus, I hope you still enjoyed the part about the drama history. ;-)
I make risky assumptions. But on the other hand the facts force me to do so, when I see what is obvious. I was trying to analyze objectively, but honestly, it's something very difficult.
As you mention, the commitment of the jTBC channel should not be underestimated. They know perfectly well that making SF dramas is difficult, and that the audience is not naturally favorable. They believed in this project and invested in it! They are professionals as well as people of integrity. If they chose this script, and even more so to make it their 10th anniversary, it is a decision weighed very heavily.
Indeed, time must play its part, as it was the case for other dramas of the same kind. It is not the kind of instant success. It spreads little by little in the other countries, as the broadcasting contracts go on.
I don't think all the points I've made will be persistent, but some will. I'm sure they will. You can't put Gun-Fu fights in a drama, in the same way as in movies, without it leaving an impact.
After 20 minutes of episode one.........
Damn, it's so bad. All is already done before. All sound fake, artificial, boring.
I could say "outdated". Of course it's outdated.
But there is also so many outdated dramas that were very good.
If it's outdated, it's just outdated by taking the worst points of olders dramas, not the good ones.
Terrible bad acting, false crying scene, aarrrhhhhhh, I feel like someone drill my brain!!!
It even make me feel "Radio Romance" was good. At least, there is one of my favorite actress.
Unfortunately, people don't really vote in the direction of the list.
Namely: the absolute bitch.
Actually, Mr Queen was voted, as if people were only voting for their favorite drama. The second female lead of the drama was one of the most innofensive I've seen.
My initial order is:
- Rooftop prince, Stairway to heaven, Temptation of wife, Moon embrace the sun.
I've watched several dramas of this list, it would be too long to comment.
My favorite : The Penthouse.
Then SKY Castle and The World of the married.
Beyond evil : I didn't watched.
About dark drama : L.U.C.A.
The drama is known because there is many action, but I rarely watched something so violent.
Situations are harsh. Last episodes are very difficult to stand. Nightmare.
I fear to try others dramas of this writer.
There is some case when crazy facial expressions work, when the drama is more balanced.
I think about "Incarnation of money". When the sidekick disguise as a madman to enter the psychiatric hospital. Here, he was damn funny. But I think it's because it's related to the plot and the situation, there is a reason behind, and the comedy stick to the story. When comedy come suddenly from nowhere, slapstick, people screaming, without any other support, it's so ulcerating.
It's just I can't debate longer on opinions about the drama. ;-)
For budget reasons, it is not possible to compare 365, which has a very different plot. However, within the limits of the budget, 365 makes the best of its possibilities. The filmography is beautiful, some sets like the Zian institute or the cliff path are perfect.
A time travel story must have a concept. And different stories of this kind have different concepts. Fortunately, otherwise we would always watch the same story. ;-)
These are opinion articles, various ones at that, depending on whether people liked the drama or not. I already know pretty much what people say. Of course, there are contradictory opinions. For example, some people think that the romance is not emphasized enough. Others think the opposite. On one criticism you quote, the person is unable to envisage an open ending, in the same way some other people can't accept a sad ending. The ending was not rushed. There is just that 5 minutes at the end without explanation. Then we can think that what we saw before wasn't maybe what happened. We take a look at details of various scenes of the last episode, and see how it is connected to the very last end. Many great movies does often that.
I am not focusing on those points here. I am trying to observe objective facts. Even if it is difficult to avoid a part of opinion, and the whole article start with a risky assomption. For the script for example. Someone may say that the story is boring or confusing, and someone else that it is captivating. But what interests me is the complexity of writing such a story. The difficulty to structure it. Then, not necessarily the answer to all the phenomena, but the logic of cause and effect in the narrative. Also, the way the chronology of the story is built: the choice to regularly include scenes from the future. This reinforces the idea of the time bubble in which the past is defined according to the future and vice versa. This allows to create scenes of great emotional intensity, like the end of episode 8. As you can see, debating this will be the equivalent of redoing all the comments and analysis made since weeks, here, on soompi or on my favorite blog. I'm throwing in the towel on this one!
One of my theories about the ending also involves Camus' philosophy. Sisyphus was not connected to a specific character. See my last comment here:
https://mydramalist.com/discussions/sisyphus-the-myth/61243-the-ending-of-sisyphus-the-myth-spoilers
Giving access to another blog where this is explained further. (I have the same profile picture here and there). The main point is that Sisyphus makes peace with himself and accepts his absurd fate.
There is also the many explanations of this smart guy :
https://mydramalist.com/discussions/sisyphus-the-myth/61271-explanation-to-what-happened-in-episode-16