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I've heard many good things about this drama and since I love Lee Je Hoon I had to watch it. Unfortunately, I think the series is overrated. It's no bad, it's just ok. I don't appreciate the directing and narrative choices (overuse of flashbacks and "what happened 5 minutes ago" explanations). Lee Je Hoon is great as usual but I'm dropping it (ep4).

Exactly and that's why KP is still a good series even though the plot is weak. It was satisfying to see the characters development because we cared for them. I wish the script had been better but in the end it wasn't a disaster and KP is now a standard in thai entertainment.

I thought the writing got worse after ep7 but I still had hope for the finale. Unfortunately it was underwhelming. Too much happened and nothing made sense. Porsche being the head of the minor family is laughable and out of character. Him trusting Korn, again, is unbelievable. And what was the point of Korn faking his death? Why no one questioned his move? That's such a huge part of the storyline, we shouldn't have to speculate about his motivation. As it is, it just seems like a convenient plot to move the series to a bloody action packed finale.
The reappearance of Porsche's mother was bad and unecessary. Very soap opera... Does it happen in the novel? I didn't like how they introduced this twist, how it was acted out. I don't know, it wasn't convincing.
In the end, only VegasPete's storyline was consistent and their ending satisfying lol.

Are you really watching the series? Toh isn't a stalker: as a member of the photography club, he takes photos of Nuea during school events. The only questionable thing he does is collecting items Nuea has touched. He never talked to him or followed him. That's Nuea who initiated every encounter.

Girl, tell them! They ask for new stories and healthy relationships but when you give it to them they hate it because...it's different. Make it make sense!
Let's be honest: they don't like SCOY because of Toh. They would have loved it if Toh had been a handsome and "normal" guy. But since he has mushroom hair and wears glasses and bermuda shorts, he's not worthy of being the main character. Some people are really shallow, they just don't want to admit it.

That escalated so quickly! I screamed at MekKim's love scene. I wasn't even expecting that kind of kiss. It was good, looked natural. Earth seems to be a good kisser, he catched Fluk's lips with gusto lol.

This pairing doesn't work because of Mark. Mek is an ok actor but he always has relatively good chemistry with his co-stars, and he knows how to play relax and fun characters. But here, it doesn't mesh because Mark give nothing, he barely emotes so Mek hasn't much to go with.
GMMtv new guys are a miss : Dunk, Mark and Book should have trained more before securing lead roles.

I can't help gushing over him when he's on screen: "Oh my, why he's so pretty? Look at his eyes! Look at his smile! Oh, his baby teeth are adorable!" :-)

I wasn't expecting 3 kisses! They were weak but I'm still glad we got them.

Ep3 was good! Finally, Kaneda is letting his hair down. The elevator scene was cute, we can see Yanase does have a crush on Kaneda. The tension during last scene was delicious! I love Naito Shuichiro's acting (Yanase), he conveys a lot through his beautiful eyes.

I've watched ep3. I'm dropping this. I could deal with bad acting and bad directing but a stupid and problematic storyline? I can't! I've no interest watching a series where a guy thinks it's ok to harass his one night stand. Kamol stalks Kim, invades his privacy and his workplace, talks about love and living together as if Kim is his property. That's awful.

TBH in ep4 you don't really see his mouth because of the angle.

Yeah, at this point this is getting ridiculous.

WooHyun carried the show, his back must be hurting. I love him!

I agree. I think the problem was that it was repeated too many time. And JW's acting was too harsh. I think they should have tone down the jerk attitude and start progressing the story around ep 6.

Hum but it's really not. I don't know if you're talking about me, but TTTS is one my fav series because the characters are indeed flawed but we see them progress from immature morons to less stupid lovers who have each other back and apologize for their toxic behaviors. Moreover Tharn & Type communicate throughout the series, not always properly but they talk and try to understand each other pov. So while I'm completely aware TTTS is problematic, I still appreciate the characters development.
TMS 2 doesn't have the points I cited above : JW's behavior is repeated during 8 episodes, he doesn't self-reflect, there's no progression in JW & SJ's relationship until ep. 9 but suddenly we have a HEA.
The issue isn't JW's toxic behavior but the fact there's no "learning curve" for him, he was kept static the entire series just for the sake of drama.
So I believe you can like TTTS and still call out problematic characters in other series.

I agree with you but I don't get the comparison with OhmNanon or the guys from Semantic Error. The storylines, the circumstances the characters are going through and the relationships dynamics are so different in these 3 series. Obviously you'll not see the same chemistry. It's like comparing MewGulf or MaxTul chemistry to KangMin & WooHyun.

- He was feeling lonely because he made his life about SJ
- He became resentful that SJ was always busy and surrounded with co-workers and friends while himself was alone. Never mind that he was SJ's center of universe and SJ always put him first...
- JW has self-esteem issues, he believes SJ would stop loving him soon

So instead of talking about it with SJ or seeing a therapist, he left abruptly and ghosted SJ for a year. But then the story tells us he was in fact waiting for SJ to come get him, because apparently SJ is a mind reader.
But then when SJ did find him, instead of being happy and relieved his lover was fighting for their love, he acted contradictory and rejected SJ several times.

I've read some of your comments and it seems you're deliberately missing the point... Nobody saying JW's struggle isn't real. We're saying that, objectively, the script is flawed. If you choose to portray a character with mental illness or insecurities so deep it disrupt their life,
you should tread carefully and strive for a realistic character's exploration and convincing ending.
We didn't get it though. There's no character's development (JW reading SJ's text messages and getting an epiphany in ep8 isn't a development), no progression between JW & SJ (it's 8 episodes of JW deliberatly being a jerk to him, it's 8 episodes of JW saying hurtful things to SJ while hoping SJ would read his mind and would keep trying to win him back). There's no self-reflection, no talk about therapy (for both of them), and worse of all, no apologizes.
We're not upset they got back together. We're saying the ending isn't earned. You'all saying the series is a realistic depiction of a relationship but you're accepting an unrealistic ending where the big issues are swept under the rug and the conflit is resolved in 2 minutes.
Reading comments like "Why are people being mean to JW? Why people don't get JW is hurting too? This story is so realistic, why are people not seeing it?" is annoying. It's wild that those who appreciated this season try to disregard valid constructive criticism made by those displeased with the series. At the end of the day, everyone can like what they want. In real life, some people would forgive JW after all he's done, and others, while understanding his actions, wouldn't take him back or would make him work for it.

Already did. I love it. It's one of my favorite now, with Life: Love On The Line.