Kelekat

So the actual victim has to apologize to his attackers for the cycle to end. That's crap.

I'm not saying you're wrong at all. Please don't misunderstand. I totally get the message they are trying to relay and even agree with it. BUT, not with people who have taken things as far as these people have. I feel that the perpetrators should have realized and apologized first, just like the FL did when she came to her senses after seeing that guy die right in front of her. Once they all became aware of how much he'd changed they should have had the decency to feel ashamed and apologize. Even if they didn't apologize they should feel like shit when he's the one who comes apologizing to them. They were all mad because he wasn't compassionate towards them in the past, which is b.s.

This just feels like...let me think...Falling Into Your Smile - when the girl who sent the FL there razor blades and roaches and then pretended suicide when was caught. It's like making that FL apologize to that girl (which she was preparing to do even though she was the victim) but her man stepped in and stopped that crap, and rightfully so. People simply cannot behave like these people did. Period. It's why so many netizens never feel they're in the wrong for all the horrible things they do and say.

I finished the drama and still enjoyed it tremendously but in this day and age where people keep feeling justified in their shitty behavior, I feel like the message should have been sent in a much healthier way. I get that it was humorous and all that and definitely laughed my butt off (and love the ML actor even more than I already did in the past because of how silly he was in this one) but the message is very flawed and while mature adults like you and I (and most others will totally get the RIGHT message from the drama), there are others who will misconstrue the message to believe that if they terrorize someone because of whatever grievance they have with that person, that maybe that person will 'learn their lesson' if they terrorize them enough. Do you get what I mean?

Oh! A perfect example is the girl who tried to kill herself in front of him. They lady who posted those lies about her did so because she wouldn't refund her money even though it was her own lazy and bad ass kid that was really the one wasting it and at fault. Instead of punishing her child light she should have, she chose to attack the person who stood her ground and wouldn't issue the refund. That girl had every right to handle that request the way she did. But that lady instead terrorized her to the extent that she wanted to either kill herself or the person she chose to place the blame on (and, honestly, if we're going to keep it real, she made him the target of all her anger and resentment because she didn't know who started the rumours so she had no one else to hate for what was happening to her...but I digress). If she had known who started it all would it have been right for her to go apologize to that woman for not just issuing her the refund in the first place? Absolutely not. But that's the actual message the show is sending, not the nice healthy one they intended. What's said is that's exactly what happens in Korea, just to 'keep the peace'. The victims are bullied until they give in.

The drama spun it to show the ML's growth and all that, which is great. But if you really put yourself in his shoes what I just broke down is really what happened to him. I'm glad he became kinder and more compassionate towards others in the end, of course, but this message is terribly skewed.

Okay so I'm on ep 15 and as much as I've truly enjoyed this drama so far I now have one HUGE, GLARING issue with where this is headed in terms of the message it's sending. The ML had every right to handle every single one of the situations in the way he chose to at the time. These people all behaved terribly and did things that were straight up illegal and when he chose to have them face the music they had the gall to want to seek revenge?! Or your boss said you did a shitty job even though you tried your hardest so that gives you the right to behave so maliciously? What in everloving F?!

Everyone always has their reasons for doing something wrong. That doesn't make it right to do it and it doesn't mean that you have a right to demand leniency when you're caught, just because you feel justified in your actions. That just means you're not truly sorry! Then, because you didn't get the leniency you wanted you choose to actively attack him maliciously with several even trying to kill him?? What kind of B.S. is this?! You choose to act in a certain way knowing full well what you're risking at the time then when it's time to face that music because things didn't play out the way you wanted to, you get mad that they don't take pity on you? He doesn't owe these people shit! In fact, their actions after show he was damn right NOT to show them leniency!

Just because you hate someone it doesn't give you the right to attack, harass and even attempt to kill them! But now because of their horrible attitudes and behaviors he's going to apologize to them all? WTF?! He's been traumatized by their actions! HE almost DIED! Several times! Yet he's the one who's going to apologize? What did he do wrong with his ex? He simply told her they had no future. Because he doesn't want her anymore after the way she hurt him (knowing full well that for 12 years he didn't know why she did what she did) she's going to destroy him? Yet she wonders why he won't be with her. Not to mention the fact that the entire time they were together before he never knew she was an heiress. So she was lying to him all along!

This show was headed towards a perfect 10 for me until I realized where they were going with this. I'm all for forgiving people and giving second chances but I am against people demanding a second chance and ACTIVELY taking revenge when that chance isn't given. I'm also against holding on to hate and animosity as that shit is quite frankly exhausting and I'm too lazy to waste my time on someone I dislike. These people have the gall to hold on to their hate and act upon it. *smh* They were wrong in the first goddamn place! This is straight up bullying from a bunch of irresponsible people who have all failed to face their own poor decisions and shitty behavior. All of them!

Got it. I'm even suspicious of his doctor now too! LOL! This is already fun.

Wait. Is that guy the ML is close to not his real brother? Is he just a close friend? I'm referring to the Deputy CEO.

I'm only on ep. 2 but I still can't help thinking he's the main culprit. Is it really true that he's not?

The other person I'm really suspicious of is that one Instructor who made the FL take the fall for her forgetting the flash drive for the presentation. She's obviously shady as hell.

I'm truly surprised! Good to know though.

I just started it and just from their first private conversation I thought the same thing. LOL!

LOL! I think I get it. I'll check this one out. Thank you!

It looks like there's a special: https://mydramalist.com/19142-back-to-1989-special

One of the best comments I've ever read on here! You're awesome!

Okay so I had to come back here to tell you about this. I'm watching Out With a Bang right now and had you not explained the way the controls and all that works I wouldn't be as impressed with the handwork of the actors. Apparently (from the comments) their are BTS shoots of them practicing the shots before filming and from what I could see throughout the drama, it's the first out of all the E-Sports dramas that has truly paid attention to that particular detail (unless there's another I haven't seen yet) and did a pretty good job. If you haven't seen it, check it out if you get a chance. I almost stopped watching after the first few episode but it's actually turned out to be a pretty decent drama. Nothing fantastic but at least not a complete waste of my time.

It's not very high budget so the cinematography and editing you might find frustrating but to my untrained eyes it's not terrible. I'm curious about how a professional like yourself might feel about it though.

I must say, there are a lot of really good looking people in this drama.

I swear I was having these very thoughts a moment ago. I don't understand that synopsis at all. I know someone dies but nothing else about it makes sense. But...Takeru Satoh. Is the ending really sad or anything though?

Your response is exactly what I needed. Very well explained and you addressed every single concern I had just from watching the first episode. I'm pretty sure I've watched all of the other E-Sport or Sport Dramas at this point, except for this one and The King's Avatar. Having a hard time finding something new to watch that's decent Rom-Com with no breakup...

Thanks for saving me from this one. It definitely would have left me very frustrated by the sound of it.

Loving that purple heart!

I'm really only just starting this and people seem to be all over the place about the SML. Your comments seem the most plausible, mainly because you explain your reasoning more clearly. Did you end up finishing the drama? How bothersome does the SML get? Does he actually hamper the main leads getting together, or come between them? Or is he just constantly throwing himself at her?

Is he open with her about his feelings or does he just do a bunch of underhanded stuff? I just got past the first flashback where it seems like the ML thinks she was cheating on him because of her not answering his calls and the guy he saw with her answering her phone. In dramaland they can play this out two ways. Either the other guy was the SML and he was intentionally blocking the ML's calls, then answered later to also intentionally give him the wrong idea - with the FL being oblivious to all of it; or it was really just purely a misunderstanding. That first scenario screams shitty behavior to me so I'm trying to figure out how bad he/it gets before I get too far into this. Not in the mood to deal with crappy 2nd leads at the moment. I need something light right now.

Oh! Does the SML ever flat out confess so she could firmly turn him down?

Omg! Thanks so much for your reply! I was dying to know too. LOL! I thought that might be the case.

I hope I can get over it too. I've even got a couple of his dramas/movies in my queue and remember one has really good reviews and ratings but I think I added it months ago and I just haven't been able to force myself past this stupid emotion! It's ridiculous. Trust me. I know.

Regarding the second couple, I actually think you might be on to something now that you've mentioned it. People would have been upset if the main couple had issues but there are also people who like some melodrama thrown in too and using the second couple here in the way they did absolutely accomplishes that. Look at you being and insightful and whatnot! lol

Got it. No worries. Thanks for responding!

Love Scenery, You Are My Glory.

***I'm purely venting here so feel free to skip this comment***

I deeply detest when characters say they have a "right" to pursue someone even after they've been firmly rejected. It's a common trope used in these dramas though and I feel the need to say this just to get it off my chest.

No, you DO NOT have a "right" to pursue someone. That's called harassment. You have the right to LIKE them, yes. But whether they welcome your advances or not is THEIR right. It is NOT okay to force your feelings on someone. Forcing your feelings onto someone is abusive. It is important to respect people's boundaries and their words.

I'm just venting because I really hate when characters in dramas claim that falsity. I'm watching this drama again now and the SML just said that to the FL and I just want to smash his face into something (my animosity for him hasn't ever gone away).

If the person is wishy washy and not clear about whether or not you stand a chance then, okay, keep trying BUT respect them when they tell you they don't like something or if they express discomfort. Definitely stop if they turn you down flat out. You cannot MAKE someone like you. You can only spend time with them so you both get to know one another better and if feelings develop from there, great.

This comment isn't aimed at anyone on here, of course. Well... now that I think about it, maybe it is a little. There are a lot of young viewers on here and I really hope they don't believe that crap.

If someone rejects you but you feel it's because they don't really know you, maybe try spending more time with them so that you BOTH can get to know one another, but do so PLATONICALLY. Treat them well because you like seeing them happy, not because you want them to return your feelings. Otherwise you'd be harassing them anyway. If attempting to build a platonic relationship with them is not an option, then guess what? Learn to accept that they said no and focus on moving on!

Never treat someone well because you want something in return. That just makes you a shitty person. If they fall for you because you do things you normally wouldn't do then, guess what? Once you have that person you won't continue to behave that way towards them - so, shitty. Also, someone who loves how you treat them and not you as a person isn't in love with you. If someone else comes around that treats them even better they'll more often than not dump your ass.

If you DO grow closer to that person after spending more time around one another, don't assume their feelings toward you have become romantic either. They could simply consider you a close friend. If you feel like they've done or said things which make you feel like they may now have romantic feelings for you, then straight up ask them! DO NOT assume! Give them the opportunity (again) to make their feelings clear AND let them know how you feel too. If they like you, yay for you! If they still turn you down, respect that they have said NO and let go.

If they haven't developed romantic feelings, then at least you've made them aware of your own so they can give you the space you need to get over them. Someone who turns you down but ignores your feelings and wants to continue the friendship as-is is selfish and you need to move the heck on anyway.