they actually practiced for playing the game. they did their hard work
Okay so I had to come back here to tell you about this. I'm watching Out With a Bang right now and had you not explained the way the controls and all that works I wouldn't be as impressed with the handwork of the actors. Apparently (from the comments) their are BTS shoots of them practicing the shots before filming and from what I could see throughout the drama, it's the first out of all the E-Sports dramas that has truly paid attention to that particular detail (unless there's another I haven't seen yet) and did a pretty good job. If you haven't seen it, check it out if you get a chance. I almost stopped watching after the first few episode but it's actually turned out to be a pretty decent drama. Nothing fantastic but at least not a complete waste of my time.
It's not very high budget so the cinematography and editing you might find frustrating but to my untrained eyes it's not terrible. I'm curious about how a professional like yourself might feel about it though.
I'll be honest, I watched this only because of the main 3 leads. The synopsis itself sounded messy and difficult…
I swear I was having these very thoughts a moment ago. I don't understand that synopsis at all. I know someone dies but nothing else about it makes sense. But...Takeru Satoh. Is the ending really sad or anything though?
Your response is exactly what I needed. Very well explained and you addressed every single concern I had just from watching the first episode. I'm pretty sure I've watched all of the other E-Sport or Sport Dramas at this point, except for this one and The King's Avatar. Having a hard time finding something new to watch that's decent Rom-Com with no breakup...
Thanks for saving me from this one. It definitely would have left me very frustrated by the sound of it.
I'm really only just starting this and people seem to be all over the place about the SML. Your comments seem the most plausible, mainly because you explain your reasoning more clearly. Did you end up finishing the drama? How bothersome does the SML get? Does he actually hamper the main leads getting together, or come between them? Or is he just constantly throwing himself at her?
Is he open with her about his feelings or does he just do a bunch of underhanded stuff? I just got past the first flashback where it seems like the ML thinks she was cheating on him because of her not answering his calls and the guy he saw with her answering her phone. In dramaland they can play this out two ways. Either the other guy was the SML and he was intentionally blocking the ML's calls, then answered later to also intentionally give him the wrong idea - with the FL being oblivious to all of it; or it was really just purely a misunderstanding. That first scenario screams shitty behavior to me so I'm trying to figure out how bad he/it gets before I get too far into this. Not in the mood to deal with crappy 2nd leads at the moment. I need something light right now.
Oh! Does the SML ever flat out confess so she could firmly turn him down?
I can't express how strongly I agree. Both the best friend and the SML's personalities were obnoxious from the…
I hope I can get over it too. I've even got a couple of his dramas/movies in my queue and remember one has really good reviews and ratings but I think I added it months ago and I just haven't been able to force myself past this stupid emotion! It's ridiculous. Trust me. I know.
Regarding the second couple, I actually think you might be on to something now that you've mentioned it. People would have been upset if the main couple had issues but there are also people who like some melodrama thrown in too and using the second couple here in the way they did absolutely accomplishes that. Look at you being and insightful and whatnot! lol
***I'm purely venting here so feel free to skip this comment***
I deeply detest when characters say they have a "right" to pursue someone even after they've been firmly rejected. It's a common trope used in these dramas though and I feel the need to say this just to get it off my chest.
No, you DO NOT have a "right" to pursue someone. That's called harassment. You have the right to LIKE them, yes. But whether they welcome your advances or not is THEIR right. It is NOT okay to force your feelings on someone. Forcing your feelings onto someone is abusive. It is important to respect people's boundaries and their words.
I'm just venting because I really hate when characters in dramas claim that falsity. I'm watching this drama again now and the SML just said that to the FL and I just want to smash his face into something (my animosity for him hasn't ever gone away).
If the person is wishy washy and not clear about whether or not you stand a chance then, okay, keep trying BUT respect them when they tell you they don't like something or if they express discomfort. Definitely stop if they turn you down flat out. You cannot MAKE someone like you. You can only spend time with them so you both get to know one another better and if feelings develop from there, great.
This comment isn't aimed at anyone on here, of course. Well... now that I think about it, maybe it is a little. There are a lot of young viewers on here and I really hope they don't believe that crap.
If someone rejects you but you feel it's because they don't really know you, maybe try spending more time with them so that you BOTH can get to know one another, but do so PLATONICALLY. Treat them well because you like seeing them happy, not because you want them to return your feelings. Otherwise you'd be harassing them anyway. If attempting to build a platonic relationship with them is not an option, then guess what? Learn to accept that they said no and focus on moving on!
Never treat someone well because you want something in return. That just makes you a shitty person. If they fall for you because you do things you normally wouldn't do then, guess what? Once you have that person you won't continue to behave that way towards them - so, shitty. Also, someone who loves how you treat them and not you as a person isn't in love with you. If someone else comes around that treats them even better they'll more often than not dump your ass.
If you DO grow closer to that person after spending more time around one another, don't assume their feelings toward you have become romantic either. They could simply consider you a close friend. If you feel like they've done or said things which make you feel like they may now have romantic feelings for you, then straight up ask them! DO NOT assume! Give them the opportunity (again) to make their feelings clear AND let them know how you feel too. If they like you, yay for you! If they still turn you down, respect that they have said NO and let go.
If they haven't developed romantic feelings, then at least you've made them aware of your own so they can give you the space you need to get over them. Someone who turns you down but ignores your feelings and wants to continue the friendship as-is is selfish and you need to move the heck on anyway.
Okay, so now I sort of understand why the FL was so stiff during kissing scenes but I still want to say that FL's…
I can't express how strongly I agree. Both the best friend and the SML's personalities were obnoxious from the get go - the SML more so of course. I've watched this several times now and it's the same every time. This drama made me dislike the SML's character so much that I'd get angry just seeing his face with his huge chin. Now I can't even force myself to watch him in anything else, which is sad since I hear he's done well in other dramas. Even I find myself crazy for disliking a character this much! LOL!
It would have been awesome if the roommate who was dating the basketball player had been the best friend. But I probably wouldn't be able to handle how much I'd like the drama if they had. It'd be unhealthy! LMAO!
I know the screenwriters just followed the book. Does anyone know if the best friend came across as annoying in the book as well? Or is the character worse in the drama? I'm curious.
Depends on the culture I imagine, but in general, suicide is a taboo subject. Some cultural changes would need…
I remember reading somewhere else on here, when another artist had committed suicide, that there's was actually a law in one of these countries (I can't remember if it was Japan, China or South Korea) against stating that the death was by suicide for fear of triggering others. I realize that's a legitimate concern but it's not like that can't figure out that's what happened - by not saying, it becomes obvious - so why not talk about it in a way that could actually help others? Don't you think?
I've suffered from severe depression in the past which peaked several times throughout my life and still take antidepressants and anti-anxiety meds to this day but even with all that I know for a fact that I can't put myself in these people shoes, especially when we know nothing about their situations or the troubles they faced. For me, my belief that committing suicide is a sin, on top of other factors which made me want to fight to get past those thoughts (my loved ones) was enough, along with the help of my meds. But many Asians don't share the belief that suicide is a sin and, unfortunately, the pressure from their families is often what's leading them to suicide in the first place.
I HATE that this is such an epidemic and I honestly don't know what it would take to help these people want to live and to realize that all things pass with time and also that, quite frankly, not a single damn thing we face daily matters when it's all said and done. So learning to let go and let be will help them find a whole lot of peace. Trust me when I say I know perfectly well that's easier said than done but let me tell you, finally being able to just say fuck it all and live relying on and enjoying only the simplest things in life was the best decision I ever made. Did I have to accept that there were some things I'd never have or do? Absolutely, but for me the peace within me was worth it. Do I still get stressed? Heck yeah. But I know whatever will happen is gonna happen and I'll just face things as they come. I do what I want and like and ignore the heck out of anyone else. I don't give a single shit about people's opinions.
Yes, more shittiness will come (and sometimes that realization is exactly what makes many people want to give up) but there's happiness waiting for you too. Just learn to say, "whatever", or "shut the fuck up" or "meh" and let it go completely because sometimes whatever's going to happen will happen whether want it to or not or how hard we fight to prevent it. But the world continues spinning, meaning that, no matter what, it will pass. It will become a memory. No matter the outcome.
Clearly what they're doing now isn't working as this problem isn't slowing down. I've literally gotten to the point now that whenever I'm about to watch an older drama I stop and check to see if they're still alive.
I just truly, deeply and sincerely wish I knew of something that could genuinely help them turn this issue around, that I could start telling others about to get the word out there. Having a solution or two (since what words for one person may not work for another) is the first step in helping to overcome this. But we can't apply western methods and values to easterners. It won't work.
The hardest part of all of this for me is knowing that we can't bring them back. Even if we find a solution these beautiful souls are gone forever. It breaks my heart.
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It's not very high budget so the cinematography and editing you might find frustrating but to my untrained eyes it's not terrible. I'm curious about how a professional like yourself might feel about it though.
Thanks for saving me from this one. It definitely would have left me very frustrated by the sound of it.
Is he open with her about his feelings or does he just do a bunch of underhanded stuff? I just got past the first flashback where it seems like the ML thinks she was cheating on him because of her not answering his calls and the guy he saw with her answering her phone. In dramaland they can play this out two ways. Either the other guy was the SML and he was intentionally blocking the ML's calls, then answered later to also intentionally give him the wrong idea - with the FL being oblivious to all of it; or it was really just purely a misunderstanding. That first scenario screams shitty behavior to me so I'm trying to figure out how bad he/it gets before I get too far into this. Not in the mood to deal with crappy 2nd leads at the moment. I need something light right now.
Oh! Does the SML ever flat out confess so she could firmly turn him down?
Regarding the second couple, I actually think you might be on to something now that you've mentioned it. People would have been upset if the main couple had issues but there are also people who like some melodrama thrown in too and using the second couple here in the way they did absolutely accomplishes that. Look at you being and insightful and whatnot! lol
I deeply detest when characters say they have a "right" to pursue someone even after they've been firmly rejected. It's a common trope used in these dramas though and I feel the need to say this just to get it off my chest.
No, you DO NOT have a "right" to pursue someone. That's called harassment. You have the right to LIKE them, yes. But whether they welcome your advances or not is THEIR right. It is NOT okay to force your feelings on someone. Forcing your feelings onto someone is abusive. It is important to respect people's boundaries and their words.
I'm just venting because I really hate when characters in dramas claim that falsity. I'm watching this drama again now and the SML just said that to the FL and I just want to smash his face into something (my animosity for him hasn't ever gone away).
If the person is wishy washy and not clear about whether or not you stand a chance then, okay, keep trying BUT respect them when they tell you they don't like something or if they express discomfort. Definitely stop if they turn you down flat out. You cannot MAKE someone like you. You can only spend time with them so you both get to know one another better and if feelings develop from there, great.
This comment isn't aimed at anyone on here, of course. Well... now that I think about it, maybe it is a little. There are a lot of young viewers on here and I really hope they don't believe that crap.
If someone rejects you but you feel it's because they don't really know you, maybe try spending more time with them so that you BOTH can get to know one another, but do so PLATONICALLY. Treat them well because you like seeing them happy, not because you want them to return your feelings. Otherwise you'd be harassing them anyway. If attempting to build a platonic relationship with them is not an option, then guess what? Learn to accept that they said no and focus on moving on!
Never treat someone well because you want something in return. That just makes you a shitty person. If they fall for you because you do things you normally wouldn't do then, guess what? Once you have that person you won't continue to behave that way towards them - so, shitty. Also, someone who loves how you treat them and not you as a person isn't in love with you. If someone else comes around that treats them even better they'll more often than not dump your ass.
If you DO grow closer to that person after spending more time around one another, don't assume their feelings toward you have become romantic either. They could simply consider you a close friend. If you feel like they've done or said things which make you feel like they may now have romantic feelings for you, then straight up ask them! DO NOT assume! Give them the opportunity (again) to make their feelings clear AND let them know how you feel too. If they like you, yay for you! If they still turn you down, respect that they have said NO and let go.
If they haven't developed romantic feelings, then at least you've made them aware of your own so they can give you the space you need to get over them. Someone who turns you down but ignores your feelings and wants to continue the friendship as-is is selfish and you need to move the heck on anyway.
It would have been awesome if the roommate who was dating the basketball player had been the best friend. But I probably wouldn't be able to handle how much I'd like the drama if they had. It'd be unhealthy! LMAO!
I know the screenwriters just followed the book. Does anyone know if the best friend came across as annoying in the book as well? Or is the character worse in the drama? I'm curious.
I've suffered from severe depression in the past which peaked several times throughout my life and still take antidepressants and anti-anxiety meds to this day but even with all that I know for a fact that I can't put myself in these people shoes, especially when we know nothing about their situations or the troubles they faced. For me, my belief that committing suicide is a sin, on top of other factors which made me want to fight to get past those thoughts (my loved ones) was enough, along with the help of my meds. But many Asians don't share the belief that suicide is a sin and, unfortunately, the pressure from their families is often what's leading them to suicide in the first place.
I HATE that this is such an epidemic and I honestly don't know what it would take to help these people want to live and to realize that all things pass with time and also that, quite frankly, not a single damn thing we face daily matters when it's all said and done. So learning to let go and let be will help them find a whole lot of peace. Trust me when I say I know perfectly well that's easier said than done but let me tell you, finally being able to just say fuck it all and live relying on and enjoying only the simplest things in life was the best decision I ever made. Did I have to accept that there were some things I'd never have or do? Absolutely, but for me the peace within me was worth it. Do I still get stressed? Heck yeah. But I know whatever will happen is gonna happen and I'll just face things as they come. I do what I want and like and ignore the heck out of anyone else. I don't give a single shit about people's opinions.
Yes, more shittiness will come (and sometimes that realization is exactly what makes many people want to give up) but there's happiness waiting for you too. Just learn to say, "whatever", or "shut the fuck up" or "meh" and let it go completely because sometimes whatever's going to happen will happen whether want it to or not or how hard we fight to prevent it. But the world continues spinning, meaning that, no matter what, it will pass. It will become a memory. No matter the outcome.
Clearly what they're doing now isn't working as this problem isn't slowing down. I've literally gotten to the point now that whenever I'm about to watch an older drama I stop and check to see if they're still alive.
I just truly, deeply and sincerely wish I knew of something that could genuinely help them turn this issue around, that I could start telling others about to get the word out there. Having a solution or two (since what words for one person may not work for another) is the first step in helping to overcome this. But we can't apply western methods and values to easterners. It won't work.
The hardest part of all of this for me is knowing that we can't bring them back. Even if we find a solution these beautiful souls are gone forever. It breaks my heart.