Oh, I didn't know that, I thought the Netflix translations look good. Do you mean it could be much better? Like could you give me an example using Run On as the subject?
Seriously..... The whole comment section looks like a bunch of 9yr olds fighting.... I never thought that people…
The drama is done, nobody is fighting over the ship anymore. Actually, people stopped arguing about the ship at around Ep. 7. Most fans of the losing ship, accepted the lost at around that time, and just wanted a happy ending for the SML.
People are just lamenting the wasted potential, catching up with friends made during the journey, and having some fun at the show's expense :))
In Jealousy Incarnate, I was genuinely taken back because I didn't expect the ending. I think that was my first…
I can understand the SLS in Jealousy Incarnate, but for me, they extended the love triangle a little bit too long as well, but there are very clear signs in the middle of who is the end game. And the ML, as toxic as he is, does a lot to make up for it.
So you haven't seen the drama, but already made the assumption that it's so good.You haven't been an active part…
You may not intend to generalize the comment section, but saying things like...
" However, THIS comment section is the most toxic that IVE seen on MDL. There's probably worse out there but from what IVE SEEN, ME PERSONALLY, this is the most toxic. "
These types of comments, even if they are based on your personal experience, are in effect, you generalizing the comment section. Even if it's your opinion, or only you believes this, it doesn't change the fact, you are generalizing the comment section based on a few comments you saw on the front page.
"I don't mean that every single 26,000 comments below are toxic/negative, and that's why i said you are putting words in my mouth. I'm saying that from what IVE PERSONALLY SEEN so far, this has been the most toxic experience FOR ME."
If you want to clarify then, you should write it like this. "This comment section for the duration of the last 24 hours has been he most toxic comment section i've ever been. And it's mostly because of that girl Kimsamsoom" Then your statement would have merit and be more accurate. You say you don't mean all 26k comments are negative, but by saying "this is the worst comment section in MDL", you effectively included all of it, from the 1st post to the last.
Imagine if I say, jootytoot is the most toxic person I have ever met. Their first and only post i've seen is attacking the comment section of Start Up and personally attacking Kimsamsoom for posting too much. I have never in all my experience in MDL, in all the comment sections I've been to, seen a more toxic person.
See what I'm doing here? I am making a generalization about you, even though this is my first time meeting you. Hey, it's only my personal opinion, but in the end I made an unfair assumption about you.
I like how you capitalize CONSTANTLY. Do you have proof of this? Aside form two comments I made. Let me make a parallel so you can see what your doing.
jootytooty, you are ALWAYS attacking Kimsamsoom, ALWAYS, and CONSTANTLY, saying what she is doing is toxic, like do you have anything better to do but ALWAYS attacking her? Do you see where you are perhaps making some mishaps here?
"Me saying you're under almost every comment is not me bashing you for being active. I was referring to the fact that you're under a lot of comments where you talk negatively about an actor/actress."
Like I said, your intention may not be to harangue me, but your words bear a salacious tone. Apology accepted though :))
Here you go again, using the words A LOT now. Prove it. Post all my anti NJH and Suzy post. And I hope it really is A LOT like you say.
For someone who doesn't want to generalize, you seem to be doing a lot of it.
If you want to have a proper discussion, where I can help you understand that you are mistaken in your views and you are misunderstanding the comment section, I am all for it, but if you want to keep your opinion on the toxicity of the comment section, that is your right :))))
There's nothing toxic about discussing FICTIONAL characters. And why does it seem weird to you that people leave…
Oh wait, is that how it works?
I always wondered why people added the @ sign.
So if I put @gsgg, you get a notification for it?
Your choice, I thought we were having some fun with our banter, but I guess you took it personally, for that I'm sorry. Hope you find another comment section to enjoy yourself in :)))
We will miss you! Your actually not a bad commenter. Don't you ever wonder why I didn't just blocked you like I already did for most people who personally attack other posters? Because I thought I saw some good in you...
There's nothing toxic about discussing FICTIONAL characters. And why does it seem weird to you that people leave…
You know, what you've written before, let us not bother digging up the past :)))
"She ended with male lead which is what happens in any drama.when startup was airing,KSH didn't even have 1m followers on insta,but NJH has more than 10m,who do you think is the main lead.most came to know ksh for the first time in this drama only ,like me."
So much for only talking about NDS :))))
Good thing you only joined 12 days ago, it didn't take me long to find a post that proved my point.
But if you say now you are a NDS fan and not a NJH fan, then i'll believe you :))))
There's nothing toxic about discussing FICTIONAL characters. And why does it seem weird to you that people leave…
Your older comments were pro NJH before. I remember them. But if you've changed your stance since then, then ok, my mistake. I won't refer to you as a NJH Stan anymore.
I haven't watched much shows, and Start Up and TKEM are the two shows I really thought was messy and had a lot of problems. They are also the two shows that contains actors/actress that have hardcore fans. So when i'm trying to make a point on Stans, I use TKEM as an example.
I write my POV on the show, where I think it went wrong, and what it did right (very little of this) I also make funny comments for the enjoyment of others. Your post for the most part is meant to spread hate, misinformation, and to personally attack people and the community.
"MDL is going through some weird thing right now. ROY is rated 7.3 now. Nothing is really making sense now. Dramas are swinging .1 - .4 points in either directions. I feel the MDL algo's are easily being abused."
I just wrote this. So it is what it is.
Also keep in mind, I am willing to talk logically, admit when i'm wrong, apologize when i'm mistaken and etc... That is what a fan who supports HJP is like.
So you haven't seen the drama, but already made the assumption that it's so good.You haven't been an active part…
Ah perfect, then we can start a conversation about it. I understand then, I am the source of your dislike for the section, so allow me to defend my stance then.
"Literally you're almost under every comment"
You don't want toxicity, or attacking another actor/actress, yet you are personally shaming me for how often I post? Isn't personal attacks worst than criticisms for actors/actress? Serious question? You may not intend such a salacious tone, but FYI, it came across as such.
I find Suzy's acting in Start Up bland. Part of the issues with Start Up, and the problem it had in the SLS department can be associated to her "Blank Bambi Eyed" Suzy face. Let me explain this further.
You see when Suzy looks at NJH and KSH, she has the same exact stare, and this is the case for most of the show, which confuses fans greatly. But this is just one of the reasons for the hard SLS for Start Up. But if you believe actors/actress are above criticism's then I will disagree with you. I think nobody is above criticism, regardless of how big of a star they are.
You can go through 27,000 worth of comments, and you will see me mention NJH by name only two times. Because for the most part, I rarely go for the actor/actress. But because I did it twice, i'm suddenly the most toxic person on MDL? Maybe you want to rethink that. Like I said, you don't know my history here in the comment section, so your making generalizations about me.
"This is the weirdest and most negative comment section ive seen on MDL. Like...are ya'll ok?"
This isn't a generalization? You basically called this comment section he worst in MDL.
"I thought i would see more people telling others to calm down but no its really a toxic comment section."
And this one isn't a generalization as well?
I don't need to put words in your mouth, when you actually said these words FYI...
There's nothing toxic about discussing FICTIONAL characters. And why does it seem weird to you that people leave…
That would be my post. And its just me and the @gsgg ( a well known NJH Stan) having some fun and jokes. I wouldn't take it too seriously. But your right, I should not have brought NJH other works into the situation. But seeing the number of hardcore NJH fans try to manipulate the ratings to make it look better is semi-frustrating, since most HJP fans just wouldn't go to the extent of trying to bump up the ratings via the making of fake accounts.
I understand, you don't know the history of the show, so your basing you comment on what you saw in the past 24 hours. But you should not. Because it's a disrespect to all the fans who have done their best to keep these section clean from actual toxicity. For the past month or so of the live airing, regardless of the shipping wars, the HJP fandom has been some of the most mature, and respectful commenters you'll find on MDL. So try to understand why we get defensive when people claim the comment section is toxic, because we have pretty much followed the "Good Boy" manual on how to post in a non toxic way.
And to see just random people, who don't know the history of the section come in and throw around the "toxic" tag so recklessly does hurt the the fans who tried so hard to be cordial with actual toxic fans, who supported the other side of the ship. So don't be surprised people come to the defense of the comment section and fellow HJP fans.
The reason you don't see much people calling this section toxic, is because 90% of the time, it's not. Most of the people who are posting here are in agreement with each other. And the ones who are not? we still respect them, and try to debate their facts of their opinion. And if we cannot come to an agreement, then we part ways respectfully. You will rarely see a HJP fans maliciously slander another fan for personal reasons or what not. And the few times NJH name get brought up, can be counted on one hand. Which is amazing, considering here are almost 27k worth of comments.
This is the weirdest and most negative comment section ive seen on MDL. Like...are ya'll ok?chile... i haven't…
So you haven't seen the drama, but already made the assumption that it's so good.
You haven't been an active part of the community, or haven't read 27,000 worth of comments, but already made the assumption that it it toxic.
Aren't these two statements... I don't know, kind of hypocritical?
People are discussing the short comings of the show, as well as the strong point of the show. It's a comment section, so such things will be discussed.
Or do you think comment sections exist just so we can all gush on how pretty or handsome the actors/actress are?
But hey, if you want to come in, and generalized 27,000 worth of comments, and distill it as being toxic, be my guest :)
viki doesn't work too well for me.
I have one beef with Netflix, and it's how they blur sooo many things. And sometimes they even change the OST and music.
People are just lamenting the wasted potential, catching up with friends made during the journey, and having some fun at the show's expense :))
But thanks for your comment, I learned a lot
Whoever is translating the Netflix Kdramas must be making a mint then.
Also are interpreters paid more?
" However, THIS comment section is the most toxic that IVE seen on MDL. There's probably worse out there but from what IVE SEEN, ME PERSONALLY, this is the most toxic. "
These types of comments, even if they are based on your personal experience, are in effect, you generalizing the comment section. Even if it's your opinion, or only you believes this, it doesn't change the fact, you are generalizing the comment section based on a few comments you saw on the front page.
"I don't mean that every single 26,000 comments below are toxic/negative, and that's why i said you are putting words in my mouth. I'm saying that from what IVE PERSONALLY SEEN so far, this has been the most toxic experience FOR ME."
If you want to clarify then, you should write it like this. "This comment section for the duration of the last 24 hours has been he most toxic comment section i've ever been. And it's mostly because of that girl Kimsamsoom" Then your statement would have merit and be more accurate. You say you don't mean all 26k comments are negative, but by saying "this is the worst comment section in MDL", you effectively included all of it, from the 1st post to the last.
Imagine if I say, jootytoot is the most toxic person I have ever met. Their first and only post i've seen is attacking the comment section of Start Up and personally attacking Kimsamsoom for posting too much. I have never in all my experience in MDL, in all the comment sections I've been to, seen a more toxic person.
See what I'm doing here? I am making a generalization about you, even though this is my first time meeting you. Hey, it's only my personal opinion, but in the end I made an unfair assumption about you.
I like how you capitalize CONSTANTLY. Do you have proof of this? Aside form two comments I made. Let me make a parallel so you can see what your doing.
jootytooty, you are ALWAYS attacking Kimsamsoom, ALWAYS, and CONSTANTLY, saying what she is doing is toxic, like do you have anything better to do but ALWAYS attacking her? Do you see where you are perhaps making some mishaps here?
"Me saying you're under almost every comment is not me bashing you for being active. I was referring to the fact that you're under a lot of comments where you talk negatively about an actor/actress."
Like I said, your intention may not be to harangue me, but your words bear a salacious tone. Apology accepted though :))
Here you go again, using the words A LOT now. Prove it. Post all my anti NJH and Suzy post. And I hope it really is A LOT like you say.
For someone who doesn't want to generalize, you seem to be doing a lot of it.
If you want to have a proper discussion, where I can help you understand that you are mistaken in your views and you are misunderstanding the comment section, I am all for it, but if you want to keep your opinion on the toxicity of the comment section, that is your right :))))
Have a nice day!
I can't speak for others, but I was never offended :)
If we don't see each other again, enjoy the holidays, and have a great new year!
I always wondered why people added the @ sign.
So if I put @gsgg, you get a notification for it?
Your choice, I thought we were having some fun with our banter, but I guess you took it personally, for that I'm sorry. Hope you find another comment section to enjoy yourself in :)))
We will miss you! Your actually not a bad commenter. Don't you ever wonder why I didn't just blocked you like I already did for most people who personally attack other posters? Because I thought I saw some good in you...
Hopefully we can part on some good terms :)
"She ended with male lead which is what happens in any drama.when startup was airing,KSH didn't even have 1m followers on insta,but NJH has more than 10m,who do you think is the main lead.most came to know ksh for the first time in this drama only ,like me."
So much for only talking about NDS :))))
Good thing you only joined 12 days ago, it didn't take me long to find a post that proved my point.
But if you say now you are a NDS fan and not a NJH fan, then i'll believe you :))))
I haven't watched much shows, and Start Up and TKEM are the two shows I really thought was messy and had a lot of problems. They are also the two shows that contains actors/actress that have hardcore fans. So when i'm trying to make a point on Stans, I use TKEM as an example.
I write my POV on the show, where I think it went wrong, and what it did right (very little of this) I also make funny comments for the enjoyment of others. Your post for the most part is meant to spread hate, misinformation, and to personally attack people and the community.
"MDL is going through some weird thing right now. ROY is rated 7.3 now. Nothing is really making sense now. Dramas are swinging .1 - .4 points in either directions. I feel the MDL algo's are easily being abused."
I just wrote this. So it is what it is.
Also keep in mind, I am willing to talk logically, admit when i'm wrong, apologize when i'm mistaken and etc... That is what a fan who supports HJP is like.
"Literally you're almost under every comment"
You don't want toxicity, or attacking another actor/actress, yet you are personally shaming me for how often I post? Isn't personal attacks worst than criticisms for actors/actress? Serious question? You may not intend such a salacious tone, but FYI, it came across as such.
I find Suzy's acting in Start Up bland. Part of the issues with Start Up, and the problem it had in the SLS department can be associated to her "Blank Bambi Eyed" Suzy face. Let me explain this further.
You see when Suzy looks at NJH and KSH, she has the same exact stare, and this is the case for most of the show, which confuses fans greatly. But this is just one of the reasons for the hard SLS for Start Up. But if you believe actors/actress are above criticism's then I will disagree with you. I think nobody is above criticism, regardless of how big of a star they are.
You can go through 27,000 worth of comments, and you will see me mention NJH by name only two times. Because for the most part, I rarely go for the actor/actress. But because I did it twice, i'm suddenly the most toxic person on MDL? Maybe you want to rethink that. Like I said, you don't know my history here in the comment section, so your making generalizations about me.
"This is the weirdest and most negative comment section ive seen on MDL. Like...are ya'll ok?"
This isn't a generalization? You basically called this comment section he worst in MDL.
"I thought i would see more people telling others to calm down but no its really a toxic comment section."
And this one isn't a generalization as well?
I don't need to put words in your mouth, when you actually said these words FYI...
Just don't claim we are toxic, without even understanding the history of the men and women who for the past month, called this comment section home.
If you find people here cannot move on, then that is actually a testament to how healthy and amazing the Start Up community is, don't you think?
You are not going to find as supportive a community as this one. I guarantee you.
I understand, you don't know the history of the show, so your basing you comment on what you saw in the past 24 hours. But you should not. Because it's a disrespect to all the fans who have done their best to keep these section clean from actual toxicity. For the past month or so of the live airing, regardless of the shipping wars, the HJP fandom has been some of the most mature, and respectful commenters you'll find on MDL. So try to understand why we get defensive when people claim the comment section is toxic, because we have pretty much followed the "Good Boy" manual on how to post in a non toxic way.
And to see just random people, who don't know the history of the section come in and throw around the "toxic" tag so recklessly does hurt the the fans who tried so hard to be cordial with actual toxic fans, who supported the other side of the ship. So don't be surprised people come to the defense of the comment section and fellow HJP fans.
The reason you don't see much people calling this section toxic, is because 90% of the time, it's not. Most of the people who are posting here are in agreement with each other. And the ones who are not? we still respect them, and try to debate their facts of their opinion. And if we cannot come to an agreement, then we part ways respectfully. You will rarely see a HJP fans maliciously slander another fan for personal reasons or what not. And the few times NJH name get brought up, can be counted on one hand. Which is amazing, considering here are almost 27k worth of comments.
You haven't been an active part of the community, or haven't read 27,000 worth of comments, but already made the assumption that it it toxic.
Aren't these two statements... I don't know, kind of hypocritical?
People are discussing the short comings of the show, as well as the strong point of the show. It's a comment section, so such things will be discussed.
Or do you think comment sections exist just so we can all gush on how pretty or handsome the actors/actress are?
But hey, if you want to come in, and generalized 27,000 worth of comments, and distill it as being toxic, be my guest :)