Dude, I don't need a lesson in romanization. I understand the issues with differences in romanization but, frankly, that's the way FOREIGNERS transcribe it. It's not the true etymology of the word.
I've taken hangul for over 2 years at the Korean American Cultural Center that is funded and supported by the Korean government through the King Sejong Institute.
Although there are various ways to romanize hangul that are considered correct, TECHNICALLY, per the etymology, they are not! Just like the Korean government has a website for the STANDARDIZATION of the batchim rule because, per dialects etc, even Koreans get correct pronunciations wrong.
Through the King Sejong Institute I was given direction to various websites to help with my learning proper Korean. Here, I'll help you learn proper hangul rominazation:
Lastly, to help you with the batchim rule go ahead an use the batchim generator... Go ahead and in put ALL the versions of her name AND then you'll realize that even the romanization of her freaking last name is, per etymology and the Korean government, INCORRECT => https://www.mauvecloud.net/charsets/hangulgenerator.html
Here... for those too lazy to bother who read this screed and thought it actually really meant something intellectual and was teaching you anything of value, here's what the generator does to the various romanized version of her name:
Kim You Jung = 김 요우 중 Kim Yu Jeong = 김 유 정 Kim Yoo Jeong = 김 요오 정 Kim Yoo Jung = 김 요오 중 Jin Yuzhen obviously doesn't translate due to no 'z' in hangul and this is the Chinese romanization of how they pronounce her name.
As you can see, there is only ONE that correctly translates per IPA to the hangul = Kim Yu Jeong.
I fully understand that FOREIGNERS romanize Jeong as Jung because, frankly, Korean is hard for the English speaking palate to enunciate so they create romanization that best fits how they comfortably pronounce it, but it's technically not accurate and anyone who properly wants to enunciate a language should take the time to learn how to shape their mouths and the IPA etymology to be respectful.
With the current situation in South Korea, I actually agree with the netizens on this one.
First off, this is supposed to be the *modern era* if Joseon was left intact.
Let's start with the relationship with the Ming & Qing Dynasty.
The Royal family and the Korean govt were not free to do whatever they wanted during these eras. In order to receive recognition, trade & military support the Korean citizens, including the royal family had to kowtow to China and provide tributaries until the late 1800s! Korea was NOT officially independent during this time. Hell, any Joseon king required Chinese investiture e.g. the emperor of China had to give them their seal and officially legitimize them to their title, IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY. It's an insult to Korean sovereignty! China might not be seen as "imperial" but the affect is essentially the same as Japanese imperial rule, it's just that Japan was more totalitarian during their time.
SO... why are we using HANJA instead of hangul for these 2 words in discrepancy!? Hangul was created by a JOSEON KING for a specific reason and he is absolutely the favorite king of Korea and this is a major reason for that. The love of the Korean people! The words should be written 만세 and 천세 ONLY! If it's the modern era, let's get it right instead of bringing it back to what the netizens are actually complaining about.... putting them back into a tributary position where they're using Chinese that not EVERY citizen can read. HANJA is only taught currently as an ELECTIVE in middle or high school!!
Korea should be sovereign and the language should equal this as well.
Stop being fans kids because you are blowing money into ppls asses and they are bored out of their minds going…
When was her brother a "celebrity"? What does she have to do with her brother's actions? Nothing.
This need to accuse people of shit and cancel them is very sick behavior.
For those who agree, may karma knock on your door and when your family members do something awful, you get blamed, ridiculed and canceled for it along with them.
This they say her brother’s second marriage , reportedly his ex wife also suffered so why did no one tell the…
Stop tryna lay this on her doorstep. She's been an YGE trainee since she was 16, 1/3/1995. She wasn't even living in her childhood home. A month after she signed with YGE she was living in a shared dorm with other Blackpink members until 2018 when she moved out on her own. In fact, Lisa was the first to move out and she told Jisoo how much she liked her new place so Jisoo moved to the same building. So, how tf does she know what's going on with her family? She's too busy touring, acting and singing.
Just like the statement says, she's not privy to what her family is doing because she's living her own life and has been since she was 16.
CCP still out here trying to destroy what let Chinese culture is left that they didn't get to during the industrialization of the Chinese Red Guard Cultural Revolution. Temples, Buddhist statues, rare manuscripts, Ming Dynasty & other tombs, books, paintings, antiques... now they STILL don't want any of that traditional beauty and aesthetics that emphasizes that traditional culture either. That's the beauty of something like Pursuit of Jade and why I even want to watch any of it. The fact that novels, dramas and movies want to go back to these historical eras is a testament to the passion of the true Chinese heart. Makeup, colors and styling were all part of opera lore. It helped the audience identify the hidden aspects of a character. This is acting at its finest. Much like the Geisha of Japan. It IS meant to standout above the common folks. It is what you pay to experience.
I'm not interested in this propagandized CCP communist history denying and destroying sloosh.
Let's not get it twisted. Those who have issues/jealousy or social justice over the aspect of "unrealistic beauty standards" can't see the forest through the trees of what the CCP symposium is saying here. Please read careful because "beauty" isn't the defining point. It's traditional Chinese culture and an obsession with it the scares the crap out of the CCP in these volatile times in China.
NOTE WHAT WAS SAID: "... television dramas, as a form of art widely enjoyed by the general public, play an important role in conveying mainstream values, inheriting China's outstanding traditional culture, and guiding aesthetic trends..."
and "...television drama sector must thoroughly study and implement Xi Jinping Thought on Culture (the current cultural and ideological doctrine of the People's Republic of China), uphold a people-centered creative orientation, adhere to both integrity and innovation, and embrace the core values of truth, goodness, and beauty. It should go deep into real life and take root among the people, ensuring that television drama works reflect the beauty of simplicity, the beauty of nature, and the beauty of meaningful content..."
~ or essentially.... stop obsessing about the past... you only get to believe & worship what Xi tells you you can believe and worship... focus on industrialization and modernization's growth.. and make sure everything you produce reflects that sentiment and doesn't stir the traditional cultural emotions of the masses...
Hidden love was one of the most boring Chinese drama ever made although I'm sure she can be good doing something…
Ski into Love and Sword and Fairy were some of the most boring Chinese dramas ever made although I'm sure she can be good doing something else but please don't compare her to the amazing, unique, beautiful and talented Zhao Lusi. /sacrcasm
~Been on MDL less than a month. Add no reviews. Talk crap about others. Organic discord? I think not. Ignore the Chinese BOTS. 😏
Chinese people have nothing more to do than this kind of bullshit for them to distract themselves from the failings of Xi while waiting hours in their cars lined up onto the streets to save a few cents per gallon of gas. Scarcity all around.... even avg citizens see their wealthy actors are lacking opportunities for every achievement gained by another set of wealthy actors... and that they need to fight for them to have just 1 million more yuan in their pocket.
Btw I noticed there are more and more haters swarming in the comment section of this page and other pages about…
Have you ever thought that at around episode 18 - 32 there were valid criticisms?
I'm not a hater. Here it is => https://mydramalist.com/760409-zhu-yu#comment-25534404 I expressed my POV with sincerity. Relegating my POV to simply being a "hater" as if I have some nefarious agenda to derail this drama is a bit much. Why are only positive reviews okay? That's quite domineering and totalitarian. I don't criticize positive reviews. Everyone is entitled to enjoy this drama like I wanted to do.
If you read my review of the drama at present... Let me post what I said on my personal timeline Friends Feed at EP. 14:
"..I've always seen Zhang Ling He as a pretty boy rom-com actor. He does great in those roles. He meets or exceeds expectation in that element. But I never would have called him a "serious" actor until this drama.
There are so many intricacies to Xie Zheng and he captures them all so well. His ability to seamlessly go from docile, to wretch, to noble, to infatuated, to general, to compassionate, to fatherly, to shy, to husband is masterful. Never a moment out of character for any specific scene. He fully captures what a Martial Arts Master, General & Marquis of import Xie Zheng is. It's fascinating to watch it every moment.
Tian Xi Wei is just great all around. This drama doesn't work without her acting meeting up to Zhang Ling He. To pull off masculine strength in innocent, naive girlie form is EPIC. She matches to this man 100%. Which makes it so realistic for him to fall for her. And her slow burn and realistic attitude stemming from so much familial tragedy hits just the right tone.
I honestly don't want to jinx it.... but if this keeps going at the same pace and plot texture, this will easily be added up to my top 10 Fav dramas of all time alongside Six Flying Dragons, Joy of Love & The Untamed for costume/historical dramas..."
Unfortunately, by Ep 30 I said, "..I'm sad. I think I did end up jinxing it.." Those are simply my honest evaluations of this drama.
This drama has so many integral characters that the 2nd half of this drama ends up feeling like a completely new drama. I know that the stories of the others have to be told but we end up losing Xie Zheng in the process.
This plot is centered around Changyu so she is the focal point in almost every aspect of this drama. But once Xie Zheng leaves Changyu after their fight Xie Zheng gets relegated to a supporting character until the last few episodes, with only a scene or 2 in each episode. After all the build up and chemistry generated in the first 16 episodes, this feels deflating, especially when episode after episode focus on death and destruction done by 2 psychotic brothers. It weighs down the drama for me.
The romance between the leads is epic. I wished they would have showed more interactions in the military camp but everything seemed disjointed and rushed. Trying to capture all of the multitude of substories that connect to the CP just completely overshadowed them and it made those intimate scenes between them fleeting and not as satisfying. I spent most of my energy watching hoping for their next interactions. In this way, all the other parts that were important made me more impatient with the drama instead.
This drama was not 'bad'. It just suffered from the censorship board and control outside of the hands of the production team. Forcing them to fit this story in a confined box didn't do it justice.
Kudos to all the actors though, not just our CP. They all did a wonderful job in their roles. I wished I could have enjoyed them more. I probably will when I calm down and rewatch it without all the expectations. I say that because, for me, this drama is a solid 8.5/10 right now with the value of rewatching for the acting and cinematography alone. Now that I know how this is going to play out, rewatching may make me revise it higher, despite my current disappointments.
Sp what happened to Noa and ko hansu. In the present it only shoes sunja and his youngest son and solomon. What…
The drama is an incomplete telling of the novel.
As the ending suggests, Noa changes his name to a Japanese to shrug off all his Korean roots and fake being native Japanese and runaway from his family, especially his biological father. He hated the fact that he was born of a Korean father with Yakuza ties. He was raised religious and idolized his step-father and believed he was his real dad. He never completely got over the fact that this wasn't true.
Noa passes as Japanese. Ironically he also ends up running a pachinko parlor in Nagano, like his little brother, and marries a Japanese woman, Risa Iwamura. He ends up having 2 twin girls, a son & another daughter.
In the novel Hansu locates Noa after 16 years of him hiding in Nagano. It's 1979. Noa was still unable to reconcile his new identity with his past and his Korean heritage, so he kills himself shortly after meeting with Sunja, who comes to meet him with Hansu. He can't stand the thought of being discovered to not be Japanese.
After Noa's death, Sunja confronts Hansu and blames him for everything. For ruining her life and causing Noa to kill himself. She expresses her anger and resentment for Hansu interfering and controlling her life for decades even if it was due to his connection with Noa. He misdirects her anger by telling her he has prostate cancer but he'll likely survive it. Hansu is still obsessed with Sunja even several years after Noa dies and continues to try to be a part of her and her family's life. He even asks her to marry him after his wife dies but Sunja refuses. And this is the last time they see each other. It's not a happy ending for them.
Fact …This drama is not on the global top 10 list 😂Fans are talking as if they are ranked in the world
Gemini says differently:
Key Rankings and Achievements:
Netflix Global: Entered the Top 10 Global Non-English TV series list, peaking around #6.
Domestic (China): Achieved the highest daily viewership with 98.93 million views and broke the 30% market share on the Yunhe Hot List, making it the highest-rated period drama since 2025.
Popularity: Reached #1 on the Guduo Popularity Index and secured a 31,000 heat index on Tencent Video.
Dang. Haters already rating episodes that haven't even been released to downrate this drama and it's STILL this high?
I'm taking my time watching this. So far, this drama is a masterpiece of OST, theme, color & style texture, costuming, cinematography, plot and acting. It's a total vibe. I think it was epic to have it set during winter. Same costuming styling aura as Love Like the Galaxy. Overall the feel of this drama reminds me of Story of Yanxi Palace that made Wu Jinyan & Xu Kai household names. It's no wonder this drama is produced by iQIYI who also produced SOYP
Oh wow, I just started watching My Fated Boy and I was thinking this FL looks like all those Chinese cellphone beautiful filters but in real life. I think I've only watched 1 of her dramas -- First Love with Wang Xing Yue and it was a solid 7 for me.
I think I'm tainted by reading the novel and watching the original American drama series.
This version is much more Japanese-centric, as opposed to centered around John Blackthorne. He's not as central to this version at all.
Diverting from the book, this drama does 2 things differently. 1) It provides the supposed background of what was being said and done behind Blackthorne's back that he and the reader of the novel is unaware of at the time & 2) modernizes the women to be less subservient and more outspoken while still trying to portray the situation as if you say something wrong, disrespectful or sideways, you'll get killed. Something that doesn't really match up to the era of the 1600s.
Let's not forget that this story is the back drop to the start of the Edo Shogunate and kicking out Catholics and foreigners from Japan until the Meiji Era. So, yeah, things were a bit chaotic, stressful and civil war abounded.
But for me, this Blackthorne was a bit awkward and a pansy. This version isn't so much about his quick thinking as he is a pawn for the rise of a Shogun. And if Blackthorne was falling in love and romancing anyone, by episode 8, I still wasn't seeing it. What I was seeing was all the mechanics and maneuvering that happens during a Civil War where everyone is looking for power and control.
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I've taken hangul for over 2 years at the Korean American Cultural Center that is funded and supported by the Korean government through the King Sejong Institute.
Although there are various ways to romanize hangul that are considered correct, TECHNICALLY, per the etymology, they are not! Just like the Korean government has a website for the STANDARDIZATION of the batchim rule because, per dialects etc, even Koreans get correct pronunciations wrong.
Through the King Sejong Institute I was given direction to various websites to help with my learning proper Korean. Here, I'll help you learn proper hangul rominazation:
Go here for the etymology of YU 유 and notice how no where is it romanized as you=> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%EC%9C%A0
Go here for the Korean governments romanization of hangul syllables => https://www.korean.go.kr/hangeul/cpron/01_elementary/02_vowel.htm
Go here to see how the Korean government explains consonants and vowels AND refers to U in YU as "..This is a horizontal vowel and written below the consonant. IPA symbol: /u/..." IPA? Get it??? => https://www.koreanwikiproject.com/wiki/Hangeul_step_2#%E3%85%9C_(vowel)
Lastly, to help you with the batchim rule go ahead an use the batchim generator... Go ahead and in put ALL the versions of her name AND then you'll realize that even the romanization of her freaking last name is, per etymology and the Korean government, INCORRECT => https://www.mauvecloud.net/charsets/hangulgenerator.html
Here... for those too lazy to bother who read this screed and thought it actually really meant something intellectual and was teaching you anything of value, here's what the generator does to the various romanized version of her name:
Kim You Jung = 김 요우 중
Kim Yu Jeong = 김 유 정
Kim Yoo Jeong = 김 요오 정
Kim Yoo Jung = 김 요오 중
Jin Yuzhen obviously doesn't translate due to no 'z' in hangul and this is the Chinese romanization of how they pronounce her name.
As you can see, there is only ONE that correctly translates per IPA to the hangul = Kim Yu Jeong.
I fully understand that FOREIGNERS romanize Jeong as Jung because, frankly, Korean is hard for the English speaking palate to enunciate so they create romanization that best fits how they comfortably pronounce it, but it's technically not accurate and anyone who properly wants to enunciate a language should take the time to learn how to shape their mouths and the IPA etymology to be respectful.
Thank you for your time. Have a great day! 😁
First off, this is supposed to be the *modern era* if Joseon was left intact.
Let's start with the relationship with the Ming & Qing Dynasty.
The Royal family and the Korean govt were not free to do whatever they wanted during these eras. In order to receive recognition, trade & military support the Korean citizens, including the royal family had to kowtow to China and provide tributaries until the late 1800s! Korea was NOT officially independent during this time. Hell, any Joseon king required Chinese investiture e.g. the emperor of China had to give them their seal and officially legitimize them to their title, IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY. It's an insult to Korean sovereignty! China might not be seen as "imperial" but the affect is essentially the same as Japanese imperial rule, it's just that Japan was more totalitarian during their time.
SO... why are we using HANJA instead of hangul for these 2 words in discrepancy!? Hangul was created by a JOSEON KING for a specific reason and he is absolutely the favorite king of Korea and this is a major reason for that. The love of the Korean people! The words should be written 만세 and 천세 ONLY! If it's the modern era, let's get it right instead of bringing it back to what the netizens are actually complaining about.... putting them back into a tributary position where they're using Chinese that not EVERY citizen can read. HANJA is only taught currently as an ELECTIVE in middle or high school!!
Korea should be sovereign and the language should equal this as well.
Released when they think the dust settled.
Testing the winds.
I get it.
This need to accuse people of shit and cancel them is very sick behavior.
For those who agree, may karma knock on your door and when your family members do something awful, you get blamed, ridiculed and canceled for it along with them.
Just like the statement says, she's not privy to what her family is doing because she's living her own life and has been since she was 16.
I'm not interested in this propagandized CCP communist history denying and destroying sloosh.
Let's not get it twisted. Those who have issues/jealousy or social justice over the aspect of "unrealistic beauty standards" can't see the forest through the trees of what the CCP symposium is saying here. Please read careful because "beauty" isn't the defining point. It's traditional Chinese culture and an obsession with it the scares the crap out of the CCP in these volatile times in China.
NOTE WHAT WAS SAID:
"... television dramas, as a form of art widely enjoyed by the general public, play an important role in conveying mainstream values, inheriting China's outstanding traditional culture, and guiding aesthetic trends..."
and "...television drama sector must thoroughly study and implement Xi Jinping Thought on Culture (the current cultural and ideological doctrine of the People's Republic of China), uphold a people-centered creative orientation, adhere to both integrity and innovation, and embrace the core values of truth, goodness, and beauty. It should go deep into real life and take root among the people, ensuring that television drama works reflect the beauty of simplicity, the beauty of nature, and the beauty of meaningful content..."
~ or essentially.... stop obsessing about the past... you only get to believe & worship what Xi tells you you can believe and worship... focus on industrialization and modernization's growth.. and make sure everything you produce reflects that sentiment and doesn't stir the traditional cultural emotions of the masses...
~Been on MDL less than a month. Add no reviews. Talk crap about others. Organic discord? I think not. Ignore the Chinese BOTS. 😏
I'm not a hater. Here it is => https://mydramalist.com/760409-zhu-yu#comment-25534404 I expressed my POV with sincerity. Relegating my POV to simply being a "hater" as if I have some nefarious agenda to derail this drama is a bit much. Why are only positive reviews okay? That's quite domineering and totalitarian. I don't criticize positive reviews. Everyone is entitled to enjoy this drama like I wanted to do.
If you read my review of the drama at present... Let me post what I said on my personal timeline Friends Feed at EP. 14:
"..I've always seen Zhang Ling He as a pretty boy rom-com actor. He does great in those roles. He meets or exceeds expectation in that element. But I never would have called him a "serious" actor until this drama.
There are so many intricacies to Xie Zheng and he captures them all so well. His ability to seamlessly go from docile, to wretch, to noble, to infatuated, to general, to compassionate, to fatherly, to shy, to husband is masterful. Never a moment out of character for any specific scene. He fully captures what a Martial Arts Master, General & Marquis of import Xie Zheng is. It's fascinating to watch it every moment.
Tian Xi Wei is just great all around. This drama doesn't work without her acting meeting up to Zhang Ling He. To pull off masculine strength in innocent, naive girlie form is EPIC. She matches to this man 100%. Which makes it so realistic for him to fall for her. And her slow burn and realistic attitude stemming from so much familial tragedy hits just the right tone.
I honestly don't want to jinx it.... but if this keeps going at the same pace and plot texture, this will easily be added up to my top 10 Fav dramas of all time alongside Six Flying Dragons, Joy of Love & The Untamed for costume/historical dramas..."
Unfortunately, by Ep 30 I said, "..I'm sad. I think I did end up jinxing it.." Those are simply my honest evaluations of this drama.
This plot is centered around Changyu so she is the focal point in almost every aspect of this drama. But once Xie Zheng leaves Changyu after their fight Xie Zheng gets relegated to a supporting character until the last few episodes, with only a scene or 2 in each episode. After all the build up and chemistry generated in the first 16 episodes, this feels deflating, especially when episode after episode focus on death and destruction done by 2 psychotic brothers. It weighs down the drama for me.
The romance between the leads is epic. I wished they would have showed more interactions in the military camp but everything seemed disjointed and rushed. Trying to capture all of the multitude of substories that connect to the CP just completely overshadowed them and it made those intimate scenes between them fleeting and not as satisfying. I spent most of my energy watching hoping for their next interactions. In this way, all the other parts that were important made me more impatient with the drama instead.
This drama was not 'bad'. It just suffered from the censorship board and control outside of the hands of the production team. Forcing them to fit this story in a confined box didn't do it justice.
Kudos to all the actors though, not just our CP. They all did a wonderful job in their roles. I wished I could have enjoyed them more. I probably will when I calm down and rewatch it without all the expectations. I say that because, for me, this drama is a solid 8.5/10 right now with the value of rewatching for the acting and cinematography alone. Now that I know how this is going to play out, rewatching may make me revise it higher, despite my current disappointments.
As the ending suggests, Noa changes his name to a Japanese to shrug off all his Korean roots and fake being native Japanese and runaway from his family, especially his biological father. He hated the fact that he was born of a Korean father with Yakuza ties. He was raised religious and idolized his step-father and believed he was his real dad. He never completely got over the fact that this wasn't true.
Noa passes as Japanese. Ironically he also ends up running a pachinko parlor in Nagano, like his little brother, and marries a Japanese woman, Risa Iwamura. He ends up having 2 twin girls, a son & another daughter.
In the novel Hansu locates Noa after 16 years of him hiding in Nagano. It's 1979. Noa was still unable to reconcile his new identity with his past and his Korean heritage, so he kills himself shortly after meeting with Sunja, who comes to meet him with Hansu. He can't stand the thought of being discovered to not be Japanese.
After Noa's death, Sunja confronts Hansu and blames him for everything. For ruining her life and causing Noa to kill himself. She expresses her anger and resentment for Hansu interfering and controlling her life for decades even if it was due to his connection with Noa. He misdirects her anger by telling her he has prostate cancer but he'll likely survive it. Hansu is still obsessed with Sunja even several years after Noa dies and continues to try to be a part of her and her family's life. He even asks her to marry him after his wife dies but Sunja refuses. And this is the last time they see each other. It's not a happy ending for them.
Key Rankings and Achievements:
Netflix Global: Entered the Top 10 Global Non-English TV series list, peaking around #6.
Domestic (China): Achieved the highest daily viewership with 98.93 million views and broke the 30% market share on the Yunhe Hot List, making it the highest-rated period drama since 2025.
Popularity: Reached #1 on the Guduo Popularity Index and secured a 31,000 heat index on Tencent Video.
I'm taking my time watching this. So far, this drama is a masterpiece of OST, theme, color & style texture, costuming, cinematography, plot and acting. It's a total vibe. I think it was epic to have it set during winter. Same costuming styling aura as Love Like the Galaxy. Overall the feel of this drama reminds me of Story of Yanxi Palace that made Wu Jinyan & Xu Kai household names. It's no wonder this drama is produced by iQIYI who also produced SOYP
Tencent is really great at promoting their stuff.
This version is much more Japanese-centric, as opposed to centered around John Blackthorne. He's not as central to this version at all.
Diverting from the book, this drama does 2 things differently. 1) It provides the supposed background of what was being said and done behind Blackthorne's back that he and the reader of the novel is unaware of at the time & 2) modernizes the women to be less subservient and more outspoken while still trying to portray the situation as if you say something wrong, disrespectful or sideways, you'll get killed. Something that doesn't really match up to the era of the 1600s.
Let's not forget that this story is the back drop to the start of the Edo Shogunate and kicking out Catholics and foreigners from Japan until the Meiji Era. So, yeah, things were a bit chaotic, stressful and civil war abounded.
But for me, this Blackthorne was a bit awkward and a pansy. This version isn't so much about his quick thinking as he is a pawn for the rise of a Shogun. And if Blackthorne was falling in love and romancing anyone, by episode 8, I still wasn't seeing it. What I was seeing was all the mechanics and maneuvering that happens during a Civil War where everyone is looking for power and control.