deserves more than 7.9. 😭 still one of my favorite dramas. it was an emotional rollercoaster but the leads…
I watched this when it first came out. I gave it a 8.5. I love it and the soundtrack. I still play the songs. I remember it was highly rated back when it came out.
But some personal life stuff happened with the ML and like how most females do, they take their personal opinions about the actor and down rate the drama. Most of the personal issues were unfounded as well. But there was a lot of female backlash and he got removed from projects and replaced or overlooked because of it. So, these cancel happy females never think of the ENTIRE cast and the work they put into a project. They only need to have their 2 cents in OTHER people's private lives and take it out on a drama that is fantasy... ===and has nothing to do with 1 individual.
That's fine. We get. You don't go for substance. All you want is to have someone on screen you can stick your…
No... no...no. Show your face so we can critique like you like to do others you racist POS.
BTW I've never even been on OnlyFans. 🫵 the one with the lusty brainrot who thinks that the best quality of an actor is not their craft and ability to play a part but the outward appearance and ability to make you thrist... you know??? like an OnlyFans troll.
Where did I say I was an expert on Korea? I don't need to be a expert on any country to know FACTS about its suicide rate. It's called Cultural Anthropology and it's a requirement for my degree in International Business. A degree that got me a position working as a Purchasing Administrator for All Nippon Airways... a FACT that also incudes my attending Utsunomiya Kita High School. That's my lane.
He is not good looking and neither are some others but instead of hating him, I just don't watch him as a male…
That's fine. We get. You don't go for substance. All you want is to have someone on screen you can stick your hands down your pants over. Yes, we get it... You're a thirsty incel yourself, but I think what you're really going for is an OnlyFans Channels. You'll have better luck with it.
Hey asshat! This profile pic is me! I'm not an "incel". I'm a very big extrovert and I have 2 kids.
You and all your ilk is why Korea is ranked #1 on the suicide per capita list. You hide behind your monitor and typewriter picking apart humanity without an ounce of humanity or compassion yourself.
HEY YOU! Put your own damn self out there and take the hits and critiques 🫵 get. Let's see how well you hold up. And whether or not you're attractive enough to be discussing how attractive other people are or not.
Obviously the industry believes he's a capable actor for his role. He doesn't need to be nitpicked by the likes of 🫵 .... nor does anyone else.
I'm only commenting because I just finished The Perfect Crown. The last half of that drama dragged but I stuck it out for the OTP chemistry. People's private lives are their own but I was aware of IU's relationship. So when I watched the later episode kiss scene, I did have a thought. Mind you, there are multiple kiss scenes and I didn't watch any bts stuff. Anyway, when I say this headline, I thought about that scene that I actually just finished watching 2 days ago. I just now saw the headline so I really found it funny--cause in that kiss scene I was actually shocked by the kissing noises they allowed into that scene over minutes. The sounds perked me because they were so loud and clear and real sounding and I'm not used to that in K-Drama kiss scenes. Unless they're specifically more mature dramas, usually makjangs, kiss scenes are fairly chaste. They're not macking out on each other... but these two were going for it pretty good... and it made me think, "... I can't imagine Lee Jong Suk is fine with the stuff...." Most Korean men aren't, it often seems. So the second thought was, "...she must have told him not to watch..." ...but now it makes even more sense. She didn't have a relationship to worry about so she was probably more comfortable and able to go all out on a passionate kiss scene than she might otherwise have been. Just funny I didn't catch this post before.
Hey! C-Netizens! Especially you young girls! Put your cellphones down and touch grass. Stop bending your neck like a zombie. Go out and look around! Your country is under water! So many people are displaced and suffering and THIS is what you're doing with your time? Barking on the internet about a dude you lust after? Lust is not a positive attribute. Maybe let the dude decide his life for himself? It's just a JOB for Pete's sake!
Dude, I don't need a lesson in romanization. I understand the issues with differences in romanization but, frankly, that's the way FOREIGNERS transcribe it. It's not the true etymology of the word.
I've taken hangul for over 2 years at the Korean American Cultural Center that is funded and supported by the Korean government through the King Sejong Institute.
Although there are various ways to romanize hangul that are considered correct, TECHNICALLY, per the etymology, they are not! Just like the Korean government has a website for the STANDARDIZATION of the batchim rule because, per dialects etc, even Koreans get correct pronunciations wrong.
Through the King Sejong Institute I was given direction to various websites to help with my learning proper Korean. Here, I'll help you learn proper hangul rominazation:
Lastly, to help you with the batchim rule go ahead an use the batchim generator... Go ahead and in put ALL the versions of her name AND then you'll realize that even the romanization of her freaking last name is, per etymology and the Korean government, INCORRECT => https://www.mauvecloud.net/charsets/hangulgenerator.html
Here... for those too lazy to bother who read this screed and thought it actually really meant something intellectual and was teaching you anything of value, here's what the generator does to the various romanized version of her name:
Kim You Jung = 김 요우 중 Kim Yu Jeong = 김 유 정 Kim Yoo Jeong = 김 요오 정 Kim Yoo Jung = 김 요오 중 Jin Yuzhen obviously doesn't translate due to no 'z' in hangul and this is the Chinese romanization of how they pronounce her name.
As you can see, there is only ONE that correctly translates per IPA to the hangul = Kim Yu Jeong.
I fully understand that FOREIGNERS romanize Jeong as Jung because, frankly, Korean is hard for the English speaking palate to enunciate so they create romanization that best fits how they comfortably pronounce it, but it's technically not accurate and anyone who properly wants to enunciate a language should take the time to learn how to shape their mouths and the IPA etymology to be respectful.
With the current situation in South Korea, I actually agree with the netizens on this one.
First off, this is supposed to be the *modern era* if Joseon was left intact.
Let's start with the relationship with the Ming & Qing Dynasty.
The Royal family and the Korean govt were not free to do whatever they wanted during these eras. In order to receive recognition, trade & military support the Korean citizens, including the royal family had to kowtow to China and provide tributaries until the late 1800s! Korea was NOT officially independent during this time. Hell, any Joseon king required Chinese investiture e.g. the emperor of China had to give them their seal and officially legitimize them to their title, IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY. It's an insult to Korean sovereignty! China might not be seen as "imperial" but the affect is essentially the same as Japanese imperial rule, it's just that Japan was more totalitarian during their time.
SO... why are we using HANJA instead of hangul for these 2 words in discrepancy!? Hangul was created by a JOSEON KING for a specific reason and he is absolutely the favorite king of Korea and this is a major reason for that. The love of the Korean people! The words should be written 만세 and 천세 ONLY! If it's the modern era, let's get it right instead of bringing it back to what the netizens are actually complaining about.... putting them back into a tributary position where they're using Chinese that not EVERY citizen can read. HANJA is only taught currently as an ELECTIVE in middle or high school!!
Korea should be sovereign and the language should equal this as well.
Stop being fans kids because you are blowing money into ppls asses and they are bored out of their minds going…
When was her brother a "celebrity"? What does she have to do with her brother's actions? Nothing.
This need to accuse people of shit and cancel them is very sick behavior.
For those who agree, may karma knock on your door and when your family members do something awful, you get blamed, ridiculed and canceled for it along with them.
This they say her brother’s second marriage , reportedly his ex wife also suffered so why did no one tell the…
Stop tryna lay this on her doorstep. She's been an YGE trainee since she was 16, 1/3/1995. She wasn't even living in her childhood home. A month after she signed with YGE she was living in a shared dorm with other Blackpink members until 2018 when she moved out on her own. In fact, Lisa was the first to move out and she told Jisoo how much she liked her new place so Jisoo moved to the same building. So, how tf does she know what's going on with her family? She's too busy touring, acting and singing.
Just like the statement says, she's not privy to what her family is doing because she's living her own life and has been since she was 16.
CCP still out here trying to destroy what let Chinese culture is left that they didn't get to during the industrialization of the Chinese Red Guard Cultural Revolution. Temples, Buddhist statues, rare manuscripts, Ming Dynasty & other tombs, books, paintings, antiques... now they STILL don't want any of that traditional beauty and aesthetics that emphasizes that traditional culture either. That's the beauty of something like Pursuit of Jade and why I even want to watch any of it. The fact that novels, dramas and movies want to go back to these historical eras is a testament to the passion of the true Chinese heart. Makeup, colors and styling were all part of opera lore. It helped the audience identify the hidden aspects of a character. This is acting at its finest. Much like the Geisha of Japan. It IS meant to standout above the common folks. It is what you pay to experience.
I'm not interested in this propagandized CCP communist history denying and destroying sloosh.
Let's not get it twisted. Those who have issues/jealousy or social justice over the aspect of "unrealistic beauty standards" can't see the forest through the trees of what the CCP symposium is saying here. Please read careful because "beauty" isn't the defining point. It's traditional Chinese culture and an obsession with it the scares the crap out of the CCP in these volatile times in China.
NOTE WHAT WAS SAID: "... television dramas, as a form of art widely enjoyed by the general public, play an important role in conveying mainstream values, inheriting China's outstanding traditional culture, and guiding aesthetic trends..."
and "...television drama sector must thoroughly study and implement Xi Jinping Thought on Culture (the current cultural and ideological doctrine of the People's Republic of China), uphold a people-centered creative orientation, adhere to both integrity and innovation, and embrace the core values of truth, goodness, and beauty. It should go deep into real life and take root among the people, ensuring that television drama works reflect the beauty of simplicity, the beauty of nature, and the beauty of meaningful content..."
~ or essentially.... stop obsessing about the past... you only get to believe & worship what Xi tells you you can believe and worship... focus on industrialization and modernization's growth.. and make sure everything you produce reflects that sentiment and doesn't stir the traditional cultural emotions of the masses...
Hidden love was one of the most boring Chinese drama ever made although I'm sure she can be good doing something…
Ski into Love and Sword and Fairy were some of the most boring Chinese dramas ever made although I'm sure she can be good doing something else but please don't compare her to the amazing, unique, beautiful and talented Zhao Lusi. /sacrcasm
~Been on MDL less than a month. Add no reviews. Talk crap about others. Organic discord? I think not. Ignore the Chinese BOTS. 😏
Chinese people have nothing more to do than this kind of bullshit for them to distract themselves from the failings of Xi while waiting hours in their cars lined up onto the streets to save a few cents per gallon of gas. Scarcity all around.... even avg citizens see their wealthy actors are lacking opportunities for every achievement gained by another set of wealthy actors... and that they need to fight for them to have just 1 million more yuan in their pocket.
Btw I noticed there are more and more haters swarming in the comment section of this page and other pages about…
Have you ever thought that at around episode 18 - 32 there were valid criticisms?
I'm not a hater. Here it is => https://mydramalist.com/760409-zhu-yu#comment-25534404 I expressed my POV with sincerity. Relegating my POV to simply being a "hater" as if I have some nefarious agenda to derail this drama is a bit much. Why are only positive reviews okay? That's quite domineering and totalitarian. I don't criticize positive reviews. Everyone is entitled to enjoy this drama like I wanted to do.
If you read my review of the drama at present... Let me post what I said on my personal timeline Friends Feed at EP. 14:
"..I've always seen Zhang Ling He as a pretty boy rom-com actor. He does great in those roles. He meets or exceeds expectation in that element. But I never would have called him a "serious" actor until this drama.
There are so many intricacies to Xie Zheng and he captures them all so well. His ability to seamlessly go from docile, to wretch, to noble, to infatuated, to general, to compassionate, to fatherly, to shy, to husband is masterful. Never a moment out of character for any specific scene. He fully captures what a Martial Arts Master, General & Marquis of import Xie Zheng is. It's fascinating to watch it every moment.
Tian Xi Wei is just great all around. This drama doesn't work without her acting meeting up to Zhang Ling He. To pull off masculine strength in innocent, naive girlie form is EPIC. She matches to this man 100%. Which makes it so realistic for him to fall for her. And her slow burn and realistic attitude stemming from so much familial tragedy hits just the right tone.
I honestly don't want to jinx it.... but if this keeps going at the same pace and plot texture, this will easily be added up to my top 10 Fav dramas of all time alongside Six Flying Dragons, Joy of Love & The Untamed for costume/historical dramas..."
Unfortunately, by Ep 30 I said, "..I'm sad. I think I did end up jinxing it.." Those are simply my honest evaluations of this drama.
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But some personal life stuff happened with the ML and like how most females do, they take their personal opinions about the actor and down rate the drama. Most of the personal issues were unfounded as well. But there was a lot of female backlash and he got removed from projects and replaced or overlooked because of it. So, these cancel happy females never think of the ENTIRE cast and the work they put into a project. They only need to have their 2 cents in OTHER people's private lives and take it out on a drama that is fantasy... ===and has nothing to do with 1 individual.
BTW I've never even been on OnlyFans. 🫵 the one with the lusty brainrot who thinks that the best quality of an actor is not their craft and ability to play a part but the outward appearance and ability to make you thrist... you know??? like an OnlyFans troll.
Where did I say I was an expert on Korea? I don't need to be a expert on any country to know FACTS about its suicide rate. It's called Cultural Anthropology and it's a requirement for my degree in International Business. A degree that got me a position working as a Purchasing Administrator for All Nippon Airways... a FACT that also incudes my attending Utsunomiya Kita High School. That's my lane.
Yours is OnlyFans.
You and all your ilk is why Korea is ranked #1 on the suicide per capita list. You hide behind your monitor and typewriter picking apart humanity without an ounce of humanity or compassion yourself.
HEY YOU! Put your own damn self out there and take the hits and critiques 🫵 get. Let's see how well you hold up. And whether or not you're attractive enough to be discussing how attractive other people are or not.
Obviously the industry believes he's a capable actor for his role. He doesn't need to be nitpicked by the likes of 🫵 .... nor does anyone else.
I've taken hangul for over 2 years at the Korean American Cultural Center that is funded and supported by the Korean government through the King Sejong Institute.
Although there are various ways to romanize hangul that are considered correct, TECHNICALLY, per the etymology, they are not! Just like the Korean government has a website for the STANDARDIZATION of the batchim rule because, per dialects etc, even Koreans get correct pronunciations wrong.
Through the King Sejong Institute I was given direction to various websites to help with my learning proper Korean. Here, I'll help you learn proper hangul rominazation:
Go here for the etymology of YU 유 and notice how no where is it romanized as you=> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%EC%9C%A0
Go here for the Korean governments romanization of hangul syllables => https://www.korean.go.kr/hangeul/cpron/01_elementary/02_vowel.htm
Go here to see how the Korean government explains consonants and vowels AND refers to U in YU as "..This is a horizontal vowel and written below the consonant. IPA symbol: /u/..." IPA? Get it??? => https://www.koreanwikiproject.com/wiki/Hangeul_step_2#%E3%85%9C_(vowel)
Lastly, to help you with the batchim rule go ahead an use the batchim generator... Go ahead and in put ALL the versions of her name AND then you'll realize that even the romanization of her freaking last name is, per etymology and the Korean government, INCORRECT => https://www.mauvecloud.net/charsets/hangulgenerator.html
Here... for those too lazy to bother who read this screed and thought it actually really meant something intellectual and was teaching you anything of value, here's what the generator does to the various romanized version of her name:
Kim You Jung = 김 요우 중
Kim Yu Jeong = 김 유 정
Kim Yoo Jeong = 김 요오 정
Kim Yoo Jung = 김 요오 중
Jin Yuzhen obviously doesn't translate due to no 'z' in hangul and this is the Chinese romanization of how they pronounce her name.
As you can see, there is only ONE that correctly translates per IPA to the hangul = Kim Yu Jeong.
I fully understand that FOREIGNERS romanize Jeong as Jung because, frankly, Korean is hard for the English speaking palate to enunciate so they create romanization that best fits how they comfortably pronounce it, but it's technically not accurate and anyone who properly wants to enunciate a language should take the time to learn how to shape their mouths and the IPA etymology to be respectful.
Thank you for your time. Have a great day! 😁
First off, this is supposed to be the *modern era* if Joseon was left intact.
Let's start with the relationship with the Ming & Qing Dynasty.
The Royal family and the Korean govt were not free to do whatever they wanted during these eras. In order to receive recognition, trade & military support the Korean citizens, including the royal family had to kowtow to China and provide tributaries until the late 1800s! Korea was NOT officially independent during this time. Hell, any Joseon king required Chinese investiture e.g. the emperor of China had to give them their seal and officially legitimize them to their title, IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY. It's an insult to Korean sovereignty! China might not be seen as "imperial" but the affect is essentially the same as Japanese imperial rule, it's just that Japan was more totalitarian during their time.
SO... why are we using HANJA instead of hangul for these 2 words in discrepancy!? Hangul was created by a JOSEON KING for a specific reason and he is absolutely the favorite king of Korea and this is a major reason for that. The love of the Korean people! The words should be written 만세 and 천세 ONLY! If it's the modern era, let's get it right instead of bringing it back to what the netizens are actually complaining about.... putting them back into a tributary position where they're using Chinese that not EVERY citizen can read. HANJA is only taught currently as an ELECTIVE in middle or high school!!
Korea should be sovereign and the language should equal this as well.
Released when they think the dust settled.
Testing the winds.
I get it.
This need to accuse people of shit and cancel them is very sick behavior.
For those who agree, may karma knock on your door and when your family members do something awful, you get blamed, ridiculed and canceled for it along with them.
Just like the statement says, she's not privy to what her family is doing because she's living her own life and has been since she was 16.
I'm not interested in this propagandized CCP communist history denying and destroying sloosh.
Let's not get it twisted. Those who have issues/jealousy or social justice over the aspect of "unrealistic beauty standards" can't see the forest through the trees of what the CCP symposium is saying here. Please read careful because "beauty" isn't the defining point. It's traditional Chinese culture and an obsession with it the scares the crap out of the CCP in these volatile times in China.
NOTE WHAT WAS SAID:
"... television dramas, as a form of art widely enjoyed by the general public, play an important role in conveying mainstream values, inheriting China's outstanding traditional culture, and guiding aesthetic trends..."
and "...television drama sector must thoroughly study and implement Xi Jinping Thought on Culture (the current cultural and ideological doctrine of the People's Republic of China), uphold a people-centered creative orientation, adhere to both integrity and innovation, and embrace the core values of truth, goodness, and beauty. It should go deep into real life and take root among the people, ensuring that television drama works reflect the beauty of simplicity, the beauty of nature, and the beauty of meaningful content..."
~ or essentially.... stop obsessing about the past... you only get to believe & worship what Xi tells you you can believe and worship... focus on industrialization and modernization's growth.. and make sure everything you produce reflects that sentiment and doesn't stir the traditional cultural emotions of the masses...
~Been on MDL less than a month. Add no reviews. Talk crap about others. Organic discord? I think not. Ignore the Chinese BOTS. 😏
I'm not a hater. Here it is => https://mydramalist.com/760409-zhu-yu#comment-25534404 I expressed my POV with sincerity. Relegating my POV to simply being a "hater" as if I have some nefarious agenda to derail this drama is a bit much. Why are only positive reviews okay? That's quite domineering and totalitarian. I don't criticize positive reviews. Everyone is entitled to enjoy this drama like I wanted to do.
If you read my review of the drama at present... Let me post what I said on my personal timeline Friends Feed at EP. 14:
"..I've always seen Zhang Ling He as a pretty boy rom-com actor. He does great in those roles. He meets or exceeds expectation in that element. But I never would have called him a "serious" actor until this drama.
There are so many intricacies to Xie Zheng and he captures them all so well. His ability to seamlessly go from docile, to wretch, to noble, to infatuated, to general, to compassionate, to fatherly, to shy, to husband is masterful. Never a moment out of character for any specific scene. He fully captures what a Martial Arts Master, General & Marquis of import Xie Zheng is. It's fascinating to watch it every moment.
Tian Xi Wei is just great all around. This drama doesn't work without her acting meeting up to Zhang Ling He. To pull off masculine strength in innocent, naive girlie form is EPIC. She matches to this man 100%. Which makes it so realistic for him to fall for her. And her slow burn and realistic attitude stemming from so much familial tragedy hits just the right tone.
I honestly don't want to jinx it.... but if this keeps going at the same pace and plot texture, this will easily be added up to my top 10 Fav dramas of all time alongside Six Flying Dragons, Joy of Love & The Untamed for costume/historical dramas..."
Unfortunately, by Ep 30 I said, "..I'm sad. I think I did end up jinxing it.." Those are simply my honest evaluations of this drama.