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Agreed! It was also Heng who time and time again reassured Mo that he loved him, it was Heng who wanted to come out to the office about their relationship, but got accused by Mo of lying. And it was also Heng who did his hardest best to get the approval of Mo his dad. It was constantly Heng who wanted to move forward, who felt stable in the relationship. Yet Mo had his suitcase multiple times instead of talking to Heng, I can’t imagine that feeling, of knowing your bf is not sure and with the smallest problems decides to run, rather than talk about it.

This might be an unpopular opinion but I’m seeing some say use the spoiler button but honestly, why would you start looking through the comment section of a airing series? The series and what happens in the series is going to be actively spoken about. So going through these comments, feels like you just wanted yourself to be spoiled. If I don’t want to see spoilers because I haven’t seen an episode but I know it’s still airing and I know others might have seen it earlier then me (different time zones etc), I stay away from the comment section of MDL. I have seen people only ever use the spoiler button when it comes to stories that have personal details in them, when they are talking about what going to happen in the future of the series or when somebody is talking about what happened in the book(s). But like I said it might be an unpopular opinion, if you like using the spoiler button go for it.

Blame it on New and the team behind it. Because indeed, why was Yotha his character written like that? Why was Santa told by New to act more like a child and use a childish voice? Why was PerthSanta their clothing, make-up and hair all a mess but for all the other couples it was all perfectly in order?

Why was YothaGun screening time cut in favor of showing Faifa more off? Why wasn’t the script written like the book, where Yotha never kissed Warich and where Klao abducted Santa and only there Gun finds out that Warich was Yotha his ex? Yotha then comes to find Gun. Why was there so little time spend on Yotha and Gun their trauma, while in the books it takes Yotha months and for Gun his trauma Yotha and Gun had many visits to that shed where they would hug and build happy memories. The same way with Yotha coming over to sleep next to Gun, he came by at night for months on end, it became a running joke between Faifa and Gun. Yotha in the books was a very respectful guy towards Gun always asking permission to touch or kiss him! Why was that forced redemption between Yotha and their mother necessary, while in real life it would’ve never happened.

Why did they decide to not have Yotha and Faifa as twins, like they did in the books? Which also would have explained why Yotha knows so much about Faifa his behaviors and what he likes and doesn’t like.

So many questions where we will probably never get the answer for. I said it before New should stop directing large couple bl projects because one or more couples get screwed over by him.

I do agree with the comments saying Newton isn’t as invested in Faifa as he was with Yotha. And I have wondered why we saw Newton so extensive in YothaGun their arc but we haven’t seen anything of him in this arc. Maybe it’s just bad writing, maybe Newton had more of a click with Yotha because Yotha frequently visited his bar, which he had been doing less and less because of Gun. Honestly we just don’t know.

But I remember being annoyed at Newton when Yotha came to the bar, spewing and ranting about his mother after another confrontation with her. It was Warich who comforted Yotha instead of his brother. I was also annoyed at Newton constantly pushing Warich on Yotha, not to mention the fact that Newton let Warich clean Yotha his room because their mother was supposed to visit. I hated it when Newton told Gun that Yotha was traumatized by love, it wasn’t his story to tell.

Maybe it’s like me with my siblings, I remember being horribly treated by my parents but my siblings don’t remember it or care for it. I don’t really have a connection to all three of them. Newton is a bit older than the Yotha and Faifa, so it could be that or maybe he is just not as affected by it all. It could also be the complete opposite, Newton is deliberately distancing himself from Faifa because he’s afraid Faifa will leave again. Maybe it will be addressed in the next couple episodes, but I have a hard time believing that. With how the writing has been.

In the books Yotha and Faifa were twins, it is generally accepted that twins have deep emotional connection with each other. Also twins know each other so well that they often can predict how their twin will act or what they will say. Tearing them apart must have hurt a lot, they were very close before. So it’s also understandable that Yotha and Faifa had a better bond together, but seeing as in the series they aren’t twins, I just do not know what the reason is.

I also wouldn’t be suprised if it all is a side affect of all 3 of the boys being traumatized, by the separation of their parents and their mothers actions, behaviors. Maybe when they are older they’ll become close again, maybe they’ll drift apart more.

Im sorry but I get the feeling that a lot of you haven’t seen the YothaGun arc otherwise you would have known that Yotha took it up for Faifa time and time again, against their mother. Yotha was the one who was mad and didn’t try to hide it. He was also the one who pulled Faifa out of those confrontation with their mother, because he knew how much it hurt Faifa!

Maybe stop blaming the wrong people, yes Yotha and Newton should have texted or told Faifa, but misunderstandings happen, Newton probably thought the same thing as Yotha did, that the other one would have done it. But the fact is the blame lies with that wothless woman that doesn’t deserve the title mother. She probably knew Faifa was going to pick her up and didn’t texted him or once again forget him. Thats on her, not in Yotha or Newton!

Also the people here getting annoyed with Yotha being protective of Wine, maybe try to understand the situation. Yotha hasn’t seen Wine or Faifa together, most of the lovey dovey moments between them have been private inside Faifa his apartment. But Yotha does have some experience with protecting Faifa from people who took his kindness the wrong way (see previous episode). it’s not a weird thing for Yotha to say that Faifa doesn’t know how to love or how to approach people. Which is true even Faifa has admitted that he doesn’t know what it means to be special to somebody or feel special. How can a person feel or know love if he never has known if? The same way Faifa doesn’t know how to approach people, which is also what we have seen, Faifa treated everybody the same before Wine came along. Multiple people have pointed that out.

Wine is still Yotha his mentee, even if Faifa has taken on most of the responsibilities. Yotha is also somebody who wants Faifa to be happy, that he has said to Gun. Yotha knows Faifa is hurting even though he never opens up about it. Yotha has tried to talk about it numerous times with Faifa in the previous arc, but Faifa also then didn’t really opened up about it. Yes you can read a lot of Faifa his body language but at some point if he can’t open up, it becomes a guessing game.

But please stop with the talk about Yotha and Newton not appreciating Faifa because they do. Yotha has done enough to show that he is a good brother!

That mother didn’t care for any of her sons! Not just one, all were left behind, all were abandoned. It’s only because of bad writing that they forced that forgiveness / redemption scene between Yotha and his mother. Any sane person would have never forgiven their parent!!

It’s clear as daylight that New has had his favorites in this series! You can see it in the script, acting, amount of time in scenes that was used to address certain things, make-up, hair, clothes etc! New should stop making these group series, because one or more couples always get screwed over!

Well now it is clear why that forced redemption between Yotha and his mother happened! Because let’s be honest nobody would ever forgive a mother like that! Honestly New should stop directing these multiple couple series, because one way or another one (or more) couple(s) gets screwed over!

Edit: “why do I have to sacrifice?” I hate how Faifa is constantly putting himself in place to be used, you are constantly sacrificing yourself because you can’t say no. If you aren’t putting up boundaries or saying no once in a while, people are going to walk all over you. Faifa is so afraid of saying No but honestly if he doesn’t constantly wants to get hurt he should grow himself some backbone. And yes I know how hard that is! So don’t come after me for saying this!

It’s probably because there was a clear difference in Da On his interaction between Jaemin and Su Hyeon. Some of the shippers of Su Hyeon and Da On are using that to say it was consensual because Da On kissed Su Hyeon back. I can somewhat understand that, but the difference wasn’t because it was consensual.

To me it was because Da On knows how aggressive Su Hyeon can become, he knows that if he resist, Su Hyeon could possibly become very violent. With Jaemin it’s the complete opposite, Da On doesn’t know this side of Jaemin, Jaemin so far has been the person who supported him, stood by him, helped him, was always friendly. To find out your friend of many years is suddenly this mastermind who made all these situations happen, Da On his world must have done a 180. I can understand Da On seeing Jaemin as a manipulatetive person but maybe not as physical aggressive as Su Hyeon is, so yes he would fight him of. Jaemin taking a butter knife to than slash himself 3 times is not something Da On is counting on (let’s be real non of us, who haven’t read the novel, were expecting it).

But I digress, I agree that most don’t seem to understand what consent really means and how it shows!

You really think after seeing Su Hyeon smash a bottle in somebody head and him grabbing Da On so hard in the face that is bled and left marks, that he wouldn’t have gone outside to where Da On was with Seong? How can you still think that? Did you miss the threat of Su Hyeon saying he would kill Seong if Da On didn’t comply to him? I really hope you never get into such a situation that you have to go along with what your aggressive abuser wants because other wise you might possibly get r*ped or the one you love, who is waiting outside, gets hurt!

The amount of people saying it was consensual the kiss between Su Hyeon and Da On is making me feel sick. Nothing of that kiss was consensual, everything was forced, possessive and uncomfortable. Da On had constantly his arms between him and Su Hyeon trying to create distance. Su Hyeon had to threaten Da On to make him comply because Da On kept looking at the door. And that thread was to kill the man who was waiting outside. People don’t seem to understand that there are reactions like fight, flight and freeze. Su Hyeon authority over Da On is immense not only has he shown to become physically abusive if he gets angry (him smashing a bottle into somebody’s face and the face grab of Da On are just a few examples) but also he as Da On his boss has the authority to fire Da On if he not complied, a threat he also used a couple of times. One of the reasons Da On went with Su Hyeon was to protect the man who was waiting outside for him!

Edit: it feels like I’m having the same conversations I had during When it rains it poors! Just because somebody doesn’t fight back doesn’t mean it is consensual!

I hadn’t it on iQIYI, have you tried one of the illegal sites?

I’ve been watching on Gaga which had all 6 episodes, it’s weird that both streaming services don’t have the episodes aired at the same time.

Thank you, I life in the Netherlands here it’s 112, I wonder if every emergency number has two 1’s in them.

Because to Da On, Jaemin was never dangerous. We as an audience have seen how far Jaemin his manipulation have gone but Da On doesn’t know that. He has Su Hyeon telling him these stories, a guy who he barely trusts. And his sister who has no hard proof only suspicions. We all never would have gone alone but that’s because we have more information. To Da On he’s only going to check with Jaemin if it’s true, in his mind he probably didn’t think Jaemin would react like that. I also think that Da On is very much in shock and feels like the floor has been ripped out from under him, rational logically thinking is probably not something he’s good at that moment.

I want to give you a standing ovation! Thank you for saying it so clearly!

In the past the old me would have helped Jaemin in an instance but the new me, the me who got out of just as toxic relationship as Da On has with Jaemin would have called 911 (or whatever number they use in Korea) and walked away. The guy needs to be locked up in a psych ward. Like thats how you try and manipulate me into fearing you, thats how you think I would stay with you? Think again, play stupid games win stupid prizes. I just have very much the mindset of not my problem anymore, after those last few seconds of episode 6.

But I know for Da On his world has just completely did a 180 and everything he thought was right was all just manipulated and wrong. He’s in shock and needs time to process it all. He’s had one confrontation after another, he’s probably mentally exhausted. So next episode he will probably help Jaemin because deep inside him he’s still a good person, even if he doesn’t think he is. Being surrounded by toxicity, makes you think you are just as toxic!

About Su Hyeon, Yes he was nice and sweet when they were in university but that’s the past. The Su Hyeon now is volatile, violent, abusive (both physical and sexual), dangerously obsessive and so jealous. This is not some cute playful he’s mine thing, and anybody who cannot see it, I’m sorry but i question your sanity! Did he had a chance with Da On in the past, yes he did. But he let his emotions get the better of him and then the whole mess with the contract, he could have just gone to Da On and be honest about his feelings. Instead of contemplating and accepting that contract. Also what does Su Hyeon think will happen by telling Da On the truth about Jaemin, I mean I’m glad the truth is out there, but it’s not like Da On is going to run back to Su Hyeon when Da On has a very nice, lovable, sweet, respectful breath of fresh air willing to wait for him. Yes Jaemin and Su Hyeon his parents haven’t made life easy on him. But at some point that reasoning stops because nobody forced him to behave like that towards Da On. A lot of people have gone through what Su Hyeon went through but didn’t become major twatwaffles. I honestly have a hard time feeling any sympathy for Su Hyeon.

And last but not least our sunshine I’m glad that he has become Da On his relax, safe place. Even if Da On doesn’t want to admit to himself and is trying to create distance between them for Seong his protection. But I kind of felt since 2/3 episodes back that Seong can hold his own and can punch, throw back anything those other two are throwing at him. He is calm and collected when he got confronted by Su Hyeon in the elevator, he looked unfazed. Which I admire a lot.

By the way I loved the minor detail that when Da On and Jaemin were wresting (Da On trying to avoid being kissed by Jaemin) that they fell on top of the chess board. Giving it the feeling, vibe that Jaemin his game is about to end. But that could just be a guess.

Now we’ll have to wait another 6 days, it’s hasn’t been since my stand in that I have been this anxious and stressed out about a series.

Sorry for the major rant, it went longer than I wanted.

Both bottom energy? Lol don’t make me laugh. When are BL fans going to realize that Top and bottom are only sexual preferences, the same way as a Dom and a sub are sexual bdsm presences. I wonder if those fans ever heard of the word Vers or Switch when talking sexual preferences, a whole new world is going open for them if they look that one up. It has absolutely nothing to do with somebody more masculine and strong, while the other is more feminine and weaker. It’s the ridiculous stereotype that has fan saying PavelPooh instead of PoohPavel and accepting that Pooh as Charlie was the Top in Pitbabe. It’s like somebody saying you give of missionary position vibes or that you give of vanilla vibes for how you look. Or somebody telling you, you look prudish because you are shy and introverted. But if we really have to go by stereotype to discuss things, Seong protecting Da On from Su Hyeon is a big fat ass sign that he has Top energy.

You can’t really say that anymore. Not after Su Hyeon grabbing Da On his face so hard that he broke the skin to make it bleed. That in itself is abuse.

I need the people who are rooting for Da On and Su Hyeon (or Soohyun) to be together to explain to me the why? Why do you want them to end up together, when you have seen Su Hyeon being physically abusing Da On? When you see him threatening his job to get his way. Could you please explain what you see? Because clearly I’m (and others are) missing something!