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“Da On started to go astray”. That sentence gave me the chills. Da On isn’t from anybody, acting as if he is your pet or dog is just so disgusting! Both Jaemin and Su Hyeon are too cowardly to confess to Da On their feelings, yet they act like they own him. Both are so crazy obsessed with Da On. But I can see Su Hyeon having a redemption arc, he seems to have less the attitude of “if I can’t have him nobody can”. He has major aggression issues, that he needs to fix or let go of! But I can see that those issues started by / coming from Jaemin manipulations. He seems to mostly want to protect Da On. Where, as what Jaemin is doing is just all out toxic, hiring a guy to drug the guy you like, taking pictures of said guy while he is unconscious. Like where do the manipulations stop, how much more are they going to dig up? Da On “going astray” was 7 years ago, what did Jaemin do in those 7 years?! How many other potential love interests has he chased away? Or has he Da On so wrapped around his finger, that there haven’t been any love interests?

As for Da On I was rooting for him and Seong Hyeon to end up together, but after tonight’s episode, I kind of hope that Seong takes a step back. Unless Da On really starts to let go off Jaemin, I see Seong being just a rebound. And I would hate if such a nice, sweet, loving person to be hurt or traumatized by that.

Especially the gaslighting Jaemin did. It was Jaemin who made the move to lay his head on Da On his shoulder, it was he, who asked Da On to stay the night. It’s not crazy for Da On to see those moves as signes that Jaemin actually also likes him. But when he confesses Jaemin tried to accuse him of stepping over the boundary, line, whatever (can’t remember what he exactly said). And then coldly Da On to leave and walked out. Thats no way to treat your friend. it was that moment that I thought oh that guy is going to be a big issue. Personally for me that would have been the moment to step back from that friendship. If not completely break that friendship completely, but than again I seem to be very hard in these things. I personally wish Da On stopped simping for a guy who hadn’t even have the decency to be kind and lied to him. (the whole meeting with Su Hyeon)

No Jaemin also likes Da On or what you can think of like, because to me he is just a obsessed manipulative narcissist.

I’m sorry but I don’t see it. I don’t know why you are trying to correct my personal opinion, but this is how I feel about Faifa and Wine. Maybe Junior and Mark have done great in other series but in this one, I don’t see it! I don’t get why you are saying it depends on each and everyone’s taste and liking, yet when I collaborate why I don’t connect to Faifa and Wine, you tell me that i shouldn’t bring chemistry into the conversation. Your reaction is very mixed, you say one thing but in the same reaction you also say another thing!

Nope you are not the only one, honestly I had to restart the first 5 minutes 4 or 5 times because I wasn’t paying attention to what was said. Personally Yotha and Gun were my favorites, I just find Faifa so exhausting, I’m sorry for the fans. I haven’t been able to connect with the couple from the first episode, Faifa came on way too strong and not subtle in any form and Wine looks constantly uncomfortable. Maybe it’s because we have been spoiled by PerthSanta natural chemistry and connection with each other, which makes watching Yotha and Gun feel a joy.

No, Forth misspoke and was corrected by I believe Neo during the interview. He was naming all the couples that would be in LOL 2025 and he misspoke.

Forth misspoke and was immediately corrected that it was PerthSanta, no it’s not true! Haven’t you seen the LOL 2025 poster? It has PerthSanta their mascot!

It’s New his directing, Fourever You and I believe We Are had it also. It’s really not needed but like I said it is New his directing.

Right?! I was practically screaming like you just stand there while your friend is getting slapped? He heard the story of that fiancé almost slapping Phu the first time and he actually fell for some kind of sad sob story she fed him. How gullible and naive are you for believing that. Personally for me the friendship had been over at that point, if you fail to protect me and helped lure me into a conversation with a person that has been violent before.

It’s one thing to fall for a sob story and to try and get your friend, to somebody who has a bad history with that person. It’s a whole different story that you let your friend be slapped by said person and you do absolutely nothing to prevent of protect that friend.

I honestly was rooting for it. I’m a big fan of not hitting anybody, doesn’t matter what gender. But that all goes out the window the moment somebody lays their hands on somebody else. Then all is fair, I honestly hoped he did slap her back, it was justified. Even if it’s not the most mature thing to do!

It’s the same thing what happened with 4 minutes, everything was explained and spelled out during the last episode. Some people already had that theory weeks before. But most people didn’t like the series because they didn’t understand the series. You need to pay attention and stay focused during these kind of series, it’s not all fluff. Honestly I didn’t find I hard to follow or understand.

From what I’m used to of South Korean BL this feels somewhat strangely unusual. Maybe it’s the quality, I’m used to South Korea having really good BL. For example Jazz for two, love for love sake, Semantic error and the eight sense. This feels I don’t know a bit of a let down? It’s light but just not hitting the goal?

They have a logo and a mascot, usually those only are given out by GMMTV for fixed couples. I think Gmmtv is intending them to stay a couple. Also they have 2 more series for this year, in which one they have main lead (couple) parts.

Personally I disliked Faifa for butting into Yotha and Gun their problems. To the point that Faifa abandoned, ghosted his own brother to ‘protect’ Gun from big bad Yotha. The lecture he gave Yotha when he came looking for Gun made me like him even less. It was Faifa who without even communicating or asking to Yotha, decided to switch rooms. It’s was he who put Gun in their room, but somehow it was Faifa who expected Yotha to give up his bar nights to take care of Gun. Which Yotha did non the less, but Faifa could have at least asked.

I wish they sticked to the books, but than again the director is New, he’s been screwing up series left, right and center.

Maybe I should have said it more clearly, I only meant it physical, the bun was just a instant recollection of Payu. But yes you are right about the personality’s, those don’t even look an inch the same.

I personally I’m not really feeling FaifaWine so far. My favorite so far has definitely been YothaGun. I don’t know what it is but so far I can’t connect with them. Maybe it’s the people pleasing of Faifa that is throwing me off, but I find him so pushy towards Wine. He thankfully backed of a bit after the bar night in this last episode, but we’ll see how he is the upcoming episodes.

He reminded me way to much of Payu, especially with that hair in a bun. I think that might be the difference, I instantly thought, hey payu is visiting.

Oh how naive some of these reactions are, that woman didnt do it out of the goodness of her heart or because she wanted the boys to succeed.

She did it for the money, plain and simple. Every single member of Mars is/was a threat to her plans, she has/had plans for Thame and the guys from Mars and Po threatend those plans. Thats why she, one by one, took them away from Thame, first she guilt tripped Po into breaking up with Thame. Then she completely blind sided the group on national television during an interview, meaning the group had no time to regroup and come up with a plan. And the final nail in the coffin, she told Mars about the debts Thame took on for them, making them feel guilty for doing that, because if they didnt do what she said, they would have contract fees/debts. Putting all the members into corners they couldnt get out of.

You can see that after that conversation Thame lost the will to fight, he has lost Po, his friends, his members, his Mars. Somebody who has lost the will to fight is very vulnerable and manageable.

After that that woman dangles a nice piece of carrot in front of the remaining members of Mars, the distract them from the fact that Thame is out there, alone. She put the remaining members on to other interest, effectively eliminating any chance of regrouping. coming back to get Thame. She was hell bend on getting Thame away from the band, to Korea and she got her way! Even though Thame said multiple times he did not want to do it (alone)!

Agreed the Time Jump and the break up were just ridiculous. I always find it so unbelievably when the production team makes these decisions, like the close friends aren’t going to talk about their close friends? The characters don’t meet at shared events (birthdays, fitting for the wedding, rehearsal etc?). I sometimes feel like writers don’t know how they want/need to end a series, so they do these break ups about simple misunderstandings or these time jumps for dramatic effect. So they can than wrap the story in a nice little bow, which is sometimes so annoying because life doesn’t work like that.

I haven’t finished Our Youth, honestly after the dead fish kiss in episode 2 I never went back. But maybe I should.

I feel more and more like gmmtv is just getting lazy about their series, the series that are being put out are subpar, the directors are lazy and constantly do the same trick they have done for years (New), screenwriters seem to lack creativity. Problems with sound and video, or scenes being filmed with weird and odd camera angles. Gmmtv needs to hire some good directors instead of contracting one after another actor. But yes I agree that GMMTv can’t seem to make it realistic.

Agreed. I have said it multiple times during the past episodes, Mars needs to find a company who will support their wants and needs. Who protects them from potential fall out if something comes to light, and not have a management throw one of its members in front to de-escalate the situation. And who wants the group to thrive instead of actively trying to pull them apart.

She is so focused on making money short term that she doesn’t look at the long term possibility. She doesn’t care that she send one of her artist to a country under probably a excruciating hard contract (seeing how K-pop industry handles their artist), where he probably barely speaks the language, but most importantly without any support.

As for Po, I kind of get it, some say it was bound to happen. But I can’t help but feel a bit disappointed at Po for what felt like giving up to easily.