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Don’t forget the two scenes in the previous episodes FaiWine had together. So they had a bit more but I do agree that all those side couples and Arc/Arm can lesson. I can for example understand YothaGun their part, seeing as Yotha is Faifa his brother and mentee of Yotha. Sadly it was the same during YothaGun storyline.

Since the start of episode 9, we have continuously seem ArcArm, PondSand and JetYeepun during the episodes after, it was to be expected that was going to happen with the storyline FaifaWine. I mean New gave screening time for YothaGun or KlaoWarich to the other 3 couples, and consequently rushed Yotha and Gun their trauma recovery. I don’t want to sound mean, but with New as director, you can prepare yourself for disappointment. Again no hateful meant

Agreed!

Hagi looked at Sei his wrist, which was blue-ish with bruises. From where Fuji held Sei.

I was one of the people who did say in the book Fuji SA Sei because I was told that by somebody who read the book. But when somebody said basically the same thing you did, I went back and watched without thinking of the knowledge I already had. And you are right, it indeed why people are saying I don’t know if I can say it was SA or even if there was sex, yes or no because the it isn’t clearly shown. And with that I don’t say you need to see the explicit act. But they just don’t clear it up, Sei and Fuji apologize could be interpreted as apologizing for the things they did before that night. Sei not being clear to Hagi while trying to push him away is also not clear. I get that maybe the cast tried to make it clear by bruises and hikeys but that can also happen during rough consensual sex. Nobody explicitly said it out loud that Sei was SA.

I think the director, screenwriter has left a lot out, which is understandable because only 7 episodes each 25 minutes, but the director shouldn’t assume that viewers who watch this show have read the book, especially international viewers because the book isn’t translated yet. Nor should it be necessary to read the book to understand the storyline or get more information.

I send it.

Can I send you my response through PM? There is some personal stuff in there.

I just had a whole comment written and when posted the app bad gateway and my comment didnt got through. I’ll see if I can rewrite it somewhat. Once again reminding me that I should type out these comments somewhere else and then just copy past it 😂

I don’t know if you know, but I’m the one who has been your follower, friend?! So far we have been very much on the same side and thinking regarding this series, but I don’t know why we have a different opinion in this one. I have been watching because I enjoy this show, it’s one of the series I look out for because of how complex and interesting the series is and how they handle a topic that doesn’t really get talked about because it’s treated almost like taboo.

I don’t go of on the plot line, in the books Sei gets SA. I get you have a different of opinion and that is fine we can agree to disagree, my opinion is Fuji forced himself on Sei because said multiple times stop, don’t do this. Just because Fuji didn’t listen and Sei gave himself over to Fuji doesn’t then make it consent. I’ll say, I shouldn’t jump the gun if it was r*pe or SA, I don’t think Sei agreed to either one.

All of this! It’s the same argument that people didn’t want to see Fuji is actually abusive and controlling over Sei. For them it seems to be coming out of the blue or not in line with his character!

Lets be very clear, the fact that Sei stopped struggling and pushing Fuji off him is not consent, he just knew he couldn’t stop Fuji, not in the blind rage Fuji was in. Sei being very clear that he would have sex with anybody but Fuji that’s a clear rejection, a no! Not to mention the multiple times he said stop, or what aren’t we going to count those because “he dropped his hand”? It was very clear that this was r*pe, Fuji saying sorry and I didn’t mean to hurt you afterwards, is exactly what abusers say after they beat or hit their victims! I didn’t want to hurt you, is also a classic oneliner!

I wrote this in one of my comments somewhere down below, more as a precaution but I didn’t think somebody would be stupid enough to actually write it! Your bloody reasoning makes me disgusted, so what if somebody was absolutely drunk as hell, then it’s alright because they can’t fight back? Ever heard of fight, flight or freeze? Just because somebody gives themselves over because they realize they can’t win and just stop fighting, doesn’t mean for a second that they consented! That there are still people who think like this, is absolutely insane!

You still have time to delete that comment! I seriously would do it, idiot!

I definitely know which video 😉 American next top model, Tyra Banks screaming at one of the models, I believe it was season 2 or 3.

Maybe Fuji does care for Sei, but doing what he did, broke everything they build together. Before Sei absolutely adored Fuji, Sei said it himself if you do this, we won’t be able to go back, or something like that. Look I don’t think you are stupid, a lot of people didn’t see the emotional and mental abuse Fuji put Sei through. I feel like the people who did see it, might have some experience with abuse in the past, I know I did. It’s not a bad thing not noticing or getting that Fuji was abusive, sadly it tends to start with just here and there a remark, or a thing you did being blown way out of proportion. Or some kind of thing you need to stop doing because the other person doesn’t like it.

A lot of people wouldn’t accept that, but the vulnerable ones or the people who have been abused by their parents, or have a traumatic experience when they are younger, might think that this is normal, that it’s love or that you should sacrifice things because of love. Those people tend to get love bombed, followed by a trauma bond. Then it tends to start small, like I said here and there a remark. A huge fight about something very small etc. For Sei, he was traumatized after seeing his parents die in front of him, I feel like Fuji might have taken advantage of that, and started isolating him. And maybe that was done out of concern or trying to protect Sei.

Inject insulin under the tongue 😇 while he sleeps

Actually you are defending him! If Fuji didnt want to do it, he wouldn’t have done it! He probably wouldn’t even have been able to get it up! You are just as much as all other fans filling in his feelings and action without you even knowing for sure why! You don’t r*pe somebody because of guilt or responsibility! You r*pe somebody because you want it and you want to feel in control! Sei told him very clearly I don’t want it to be you, that’s a very clear no, and Fuji didn’t listen, that’s the end of the story! There are no if, buts or maybe’s in this situation, it was r*pe, that isn’t explainable nor should it matter!

Louder please, not to mention the fact that she snuggly and laughing told the friend that she and Hagi had a sexless relationship and that it was no big deal. That doesn’t sound like she felt so bad, I agree with you that if she really felt bad she would have told Hagi much earlier. From her explanation she clearly had noticed it before in other relationships, it would have been her responsibility to tell that to her next partner. More to give a partner a heads-up like this might potentially happen in the future, so know what you are signing up for.

I get that from your point of view it was harsh. From my point of view Sei has just been utterly humiliated by a person who he previously adored. He is raw with feelings, yet part of him is numb. Sei probably can’t face Hagi right now, he might even feel ashamed. Sei breaking his SIM card the next morning is him being utterly defeated, completely broken and starting to close off/feeling numb, he deliberately broke his SIM card, that way Hagi couldn’t contact him. I really felt like that evening before with Fuji was him hitting rock bottom, he is deliberately pushing Hagi away, that’s why he was harsh to Hagi. Hagi represents a caring, sweet, understanding person who Sei is starting to fall for, but he still feels stuck and depended on Fuji. Sei trying to create distance from Hagi might just be to protect himself from more rage by Fuji.

I’m sorry if I reacted harshly.

Tell me you don’t understand his character and what he just went through without telling me!

Oh agreed, it’s gives we ride at dawn feeling! I personally wouldn’t have be that calm if I was Hagi but then again I would have torn Kaori a new one! I can not be that calm, I definitely respect Hagi for keeping calm with the conversation with Kaori.

In the book Fuji SA/r*ped Sei, and from the way they directed it in the series I think you can assume Sei was indeed SA’d/r*ped by Fuji.