I can’t be the only one who thinks that frigid bitch kind of deserved it. Like you could have expected it to happen, you turned cold to him and he accepted it for more than a year. If you keep pushing a person at some point, they are going to snap and say enough. Also not cool how she broke Sei his bulb present for Hagi. Maybe if you finally had explained things to your partner instead of to a friend of yours, this wouldn’t have happened. But than again play stupid games, win stupid prizes!
Her excuse of Hagi being masculine was clearly bs, he was anything but that, during the nc scene with Sei, and I feel like Hagi would have been the same with Kaori. He was tender, sweet, caring, etc.
So for Fuji, Fuji has no right to be angry, they aren’t even partners, roommates at best. Or is he afraid that he is going to loose that control over Sei, now that somebody else is giving him attention. Also why does he have Sei his phone, why is he even picking up the phone. It all feels so controlling and abusive, like all the things Sei isnt allowed to do or has to give up to be Fuji’s roommate.
Also for all the holier than thou people, cheating is different for everybody. For most it’s sex, for other it’s kissing, or liking post on social media. For me the relationship between Hagi and Kaori was over the moment she didn’t communicate with him, and kept him in the dark for a whole freaking year! The relationship has been over, they just haven’t said it out loud yet.
This episode was heartbreaking, the invisible wall that emerged the morning after, how they both took a bed to eat. The same way the glass doors was there to symbolize the enormous gap between them. Or the comparison with how tender Hagi was with Sei his toe compared to the roughness and lack of compassion from Fuji. The way Sei tried to close himself off from Fuji, yet letting slip some very tender and emotional moments.
It’s going to be another week of waiting, personally of all the bl series currently airing this one I anticipate the most during the week.
I love how realistic and interesting this series is.
How exactly are you expecting them to communicate when both partner and roommate shut down every conversation about it?
I also want to say that cheating is for everybody differently, for you cheating might be when people who are in a relationship have sex with others. For some it’s kissing and some even say liking a post is cheating.
You say cheating is cruel, I find what both Fuji and Kaori do far more crueler, abusive even. What about everything Kaori and Fuji have done towards the guys. They both loath and hate themselves, they feel ashamed for having needs. What do you think that rejection every time is doing to them?
You can get all mad at Hagi and Sei but what about their partner/friend/roommata. Kaori also could have sat Hagi down and explained it to him, or even broke up with him. Instead she let him question everything about himself because of her actions! You are seeing things very black and white which is fine, but don’t get mad at the people who can see the grey and sympathize with the guys! I do wonder why you watch this series?
Are we watching the same series? Because she is is the cruel one here, she doesn’t communicate and keeps her partner in the dark. Only poor one is her partner who is patiently waiting for her and respecting her boundaries!
I will not justify the lie that P’Cir told Phu, but hearing the horror story about that woman made my blood…
I do agree, though the mother from Uea (bed friends) shares that first place, im afraid. She was such a cold hearted b*tch. I agree with you that we do not need any flashbacks, but knowing Mame we probably will see some of it. Or there will be something coming, she doesn’t really shy away from traumatizing scenes.
Don't get me wrong!! I adore YothaGun chemistry so so much!! But to me, everything about episode15 seems so off!!…
It’s because each couple has 8/9 episodes and GMMTV is known to wrap everything in a neat little bow. I found Gun healing from his trauma, afraid of the light rushed. But like I said its GMMTV and the writers.
I'm not sure if there are people with such experiences in this comment section, so i hope I get some answers eventually.…
For me after I found a healthy relationship it did help a bit. Because you can do a lot alone, but I found out that only when you are in a relationship are you going to know certain triggers. Like for me the 50 or so disagreements/fights were very stressful, because I was so used to being screamed at or cussed out, so that’s what you are expecting. Or just certain behaviors that instantly set me on high alert. while those behaviors aren’t necessarily wrong, the actions that tended to follow were wrong. It can help but in most instances therapy is still needed. New healthy relationships aren’t a cure but they do help with healing. I don’t know if you understand what I mean, because I find myself being very vague.
I really loved this episode, there were some moments stood out for me. For example: Yotha helping Gun with his fears and trauma was definitely one of them. Even though I do think they moved quite fast with his trauma, it’s probably the writers from GMMTV. Yotha becoming a beacon of light with his yellow pjs in Gun his nightmare. Yotha his patience when he thinks that Gun woke up after a nightmare. Gun being happy they get to eat out of the room and them sharing the food together. How happy and lovable Gun his family is towards him and later Yotha.
I like how they took the time to get to know them, even if the ending made it feel a bit rushed. I liked Yotha saying he was brave enough to love Gun. That shows that yes he is still scared but doesn’t want to loose Gun and wants to risk getting hurt in the possible future for him.
I’m glad Yotha does realize that he made Gun less shiny and sad a couple of times, and also again apologized for it.
I didn’t really get why those guys were trying to beat up Klao, was it because he helped Yotha? Klao and Wa their scenes felt somewhat off, it felt like we missed some scenes.
Saw the preview of the next episode and honestly I just hope that for once the storyline doesn’t have those whole let’s forgive toxic parents in it. I know it’s a different culture and different values, but children/teens/adult don’t have to accept or forgive lousy parents.
But then again it’s GMMTV and they usually tend to give parents this unrealistic 180 turn in their character, so that they then can talk it out with the children. Somehow all the neglect, abuse, control, manipulations and guilt trips are all magically solved and forgotten.
A little rant here about Jun Po Thame. I dont't really see what this Jun arc was meant for. For me it was unnecessary.…
You said what I was thinking, the first 5 episodes were so lovely and mature. The whole love triangle thing just made me so uninterested to watch the series. This was one of my most anticipated series, but with Jun constantly trying to sabotage the building relationship between Po and Thame, it just felt so immature and unnecessary. I agree with you that it felt like Jun either was very manipulative towards Po or/and just a toxic friend towards Thame. Isnt there something like a friendship code? The past 3 episodes have just been so immature, it feels like high school drama. The Jun story was unnecessary, why not show how Thame and Po build a strong relationship? So that by the time it does get out that they are dating/are gay, they won’t instantly break up because of out.
This still doesn’t justify betrayal or unfaithfulness. They could have communicated their needs and if unmet,…
And for everybody these boundaries could be different, I’ve told you my boundaries in my relationships. So above is how I would define the relationship (or lack there off) between the two couple. But can I ask you back, what do you define as cheating?
This still doesn’t justify betrayal or unfaithfulness. They could have communicated their needs and if unmet,…
For me cheating is not communicating, not being open and honest. I don’t give a damn about sex, for me cheating isn’t physical. I’m polyamorous, so for me cheating is not respecting the rules and boundaries you have agreed upon as a couple.
I feel like there isn’t any relationship anymore between Kaori and Hagi because they act more like roommates. They are indifferent towards each other, the conversations aren’t deep or meaningful. The relationship is already over they just haven’t spoken the words out loud yet.
For me Kaori cheated first by being completely cold towards Hagi, by not considering his feelings in this matter. By completely ignoring his needs and wants, by doing things without communicating to him or being honest about it. She is lying to him by omitting, I find her very cruel.
As for Sei and Fuji I mean thats not even a relationship, that’s a trauma bond. Sei attached himself on Fuji after his parents died and it seems like Fuji took that chance to completely isolate Sei from everybody, while Sei was vulnerable.
Everybody thinks differently about cheating, some think watching porn is cheating. Some say a shared kiss is cheating, some say liking a post from somebody on social media is cheating.
This is my reaction at first, but this still doesn’t justify betrayal or unfaithfulness. They could have communicated…
I’m sorry but how are they supposed to communicate when every time they bring it up a person either flees or comes up with some kind of lousy excuse? And what kind of solutions do you have? Do Kaori or Fuji look or talk like they would be willing to open up the relationship?
I honestly need the shitty ONER company to go bankrupt so badly 🤬
My blood boiled when Po said that the company wanted the group to say a few words to the dude who sung their song! Like you want them to praise the dude, while you gave away their song? I really hope that at the end of the series, the group decides to leave the company and look for a company who supports them 100%.
When both boys revealed they were in sex-less relationships I thought it was a bit too convenient - but that's…
It felt like the third person, just wanted to proposition Hagi, she very casually worked her husband out of the room to be alone with Hagi. To me it seems she is more angry/frustrated at her husband then actually understanding Hagi, like how Sei does. She sounds very bitter and it almost felt like she wanted to cheat to get back at her husband.
At this point I’m starting to get annoyed with both Fuji as Kaori, both guys are trying to hard to have them just communicate with them, and they get ignored or brushed of every time.
Kaori talking so openly with her friend about her not having sex with Hagi, is astounding, she just doesn’t seem to care what it is doing with Hagi. Her brushing him off once again is so frustrating to see.
I saw multiple posts about Sei becoming creepy because he keeps bringing it up, I personally would do the same if my friend/room mate/whatever can’t tell me why or what is wrong. Fuji constantly interrupts Sei when he tries to bring it up and then walks away is just painful to see. Though I would have been very direct with Fuji and just straight out asked why don’t you want to be physical with me. But then again I’m somebody who doesn’t shy away from tough conversations.
Communication isn’t this hard, both Kaori and Fuji should just listen and talk about what is bothering them, or at least explain it. So Sei and Hagi can make their decision if they want to stay, yes or no.
Again both Fuji and Kaori are cruel in this episode. With Kaori being able to talk about their sex life with a friend but not with Hagi, not to mention talking about their private issues to said friend. And with Fuji, I felt like he purposely tried to hurt Sei pushing on his toe. It felt almost like a punishment, because he dared to seek help from somebody else, that wasn’t him. Fuji seemed to have isolated Sei after his parents died. It feels very much like Sei trauma bonded with Fuji. Sei is dependent on him, for his happiness and joy, the way he used to wait for Fuji to return from work etc. And Fuji seems to enjoy the fact that Sei needs him, I feel like at times Fuji is emotionally and mentally abusing Sei. I’m glad Sei is actually going out with Hagi to eat or visit places and not constantly wait for Fuji anymore.
Also we all agree on the fact that the friend of Kaori tried to proposition Hagi, right?
Personally I love how this series is showing a very different almost taboo storyline. It’s very different from the fluffy, lovey dovey stories we have had. It shows, you just have to push somebody far enough for them to break and say enough! Very realistic.
I just finished all 37 episodes, but can somebody please explain the ending of 36. Didn’t the Elder Ye Bai Yi said that if they did rhat ritual that one of the two would die? How is it that Wen gets to live, be a god? Or did I miss something. I did love the ending, but I leave with a couple of questions. Do the diciples (is that how you write it?) of Zishu, inluding Chengling every see their master again? Did they pass on the information they learned from the armory? What happened to prince Jin? Was in the end Ghost valley completely destroyed? Did Chengling have children, so he could build the sects he was a disciple for back up? Did he pad down the information? But most of all I do not understand how Wen was able to survive? I loved the scheming and treachery between the sects, the politics of it all. I’m glad that Chemgling was able to forgive Wen when he found out who Wen really was. This is definitely a series im going to be rewatching again!
They need to make a section for gay bromance stuff, i trying to look for actually romance not gay but this thing…
on the world of bl website you can find a list with all the completed, airing and upcoming bl series. I would recommend you check there if you find a series, you might like but don’t want it to be BL.
Her excuse of Hagi being masculine was clearly bs, he was anything but that, during the nc scene with Sei, and I feel like Hagi would have been the same with Kaori. He was tender, sweet, caring, etc.
So for Fuji, Fuji has no right to be angry, they aren’t even partners, roommates at best. Or is he afraid that he is going to loose that control over Sei, now that somebody else is giving him attention. Also why does he have Sei his phone, why is he even picking up the phone. It all feels so controlling and abusive, like all the things Sei isnt allowed to do or has to give up to be Fuji’s roommate.
Also for all the holier than thou people, cheating is different for everybody. For most it’s sex, for other it’s kissing, or liking post on social media. For me the relationship between Hagi and Kaori was over the moment she didn’t communicate with him, and kept him in the dark for a whole freaking year! The relationship has been over, they just haven’t said it out loud yet.
This episode was heartbreaking, the invisible wall that emerged the morning after, how they both took a bed to eat. The same way the glass doors was there to symbolize the enormous gap between them. Or the comparison with how tender Hagi was with Sei his toe compared to the roughness and lack of compassion from Fuji. The way Sei tried to close himself off from Fuji, yet letting slip some very tender and emotional moments.
It’s going to be another week of waiting, personally of all the bl series currently airing this one I anticipate the most during the week.
I love how realistic and interesting this series is.
I also want to say that cheating is for everybody differently, for you cheating might be when people who are in a relationship have sex with others. For some it’s kissing and some even say liking a post is cheating.
You say cheating is cruel, I find what both Fuji and Kaori do far more crueler, abusive even. What about everything Kaori and Fuji have done towards the guys. They both loath and hate themselves, they feel ashamed for having needs. What do you think that rejection every time is doing to them?
You can get all mad at Hagi and Sei but what about their partner/friend/roommata. Kaori also could have sat Hagi down and explained it to him, or even broke up with him. Instead she let him question everything about himself because of her actions! You are seeing things very black and white which is fine, but don’t get mad at the people who can see the grey and sympathize with the guys! I do wonder why you watch this series?
Yotha helping Gun with his fears and trauma was definitely one of them. Even though I do think they moved quite fast with his trauma, it’s probably the writers from GMMTV. Yotha becoming a beacon of light with his yellow pjs in Gun his nightmare. Yotha his patience when he thinks that Gun woke up after a nightmare. Gun being happy they get to eat out of the room and them sharing the food together. How happy and lovable Gun his family is towards him and later Yotha.
I like how they took the time to get to know them, even if the ending made it feel a bit rushed. I liked Yotha saying he was brave enough to love Gun. That shows that yes he is still scared but doesn’t want to loose Gun and wants to risk getting hurt in the possible future for him.
I’m glad Yotha does realize that he made Gun less shiny and sad a couple of times, and also again apologized for it.
I didn’t really get why those guys were trying to beat up Klao, was it because he helped Yotha? Klao and Wa their scenes felt somewhat off, it felt like we missed some scenes.
Saw the preview of the next episode and honestly I just hope that for once the storyline doesn’t have those whole let’s forgive toxic parents in it. I know it’s a different culture and different values, but children/teens/adult don’t have to accept or forgive lousy parents.
But then again it’s GMMTV and they usually tend to give parents this unrealistic 180 turn in their character, so that they then can talk it out with the children. Somehow all the neglect, abuse, control, manipulations and guilt trips are all magically solved and forgotten.
I feel like there isn’t any relationship anymore between Kaori and Hagi because they act more like roommates. They are indifferent towards each other, the conversations aren’t deep or meaningful. The relationship is already over they just haven’t spoken the words out loud yet.
For me Kaori cheated first by being completely cold towards Hagi, by not considering his feelings in this matter. By completely ignoring his needs and wants, by doing things without communicating to him or being honest about it. She is lying to him by omitting, I find her very cruel.
As for Sei and Fuji I mean thats not even a relationship, that’s a trauma bond. Sei attached himself on Fuji after his parents died and it seems like Fuji took that chance to completely isolate Sei from everybody, while Sei was vulnerable.
Everybody thinks differently about cheating, some think watching porn is cheating. Some say a shared kiss is cheating, some say liking a post from somebody on social media is cheating.
And I agree her husband isnt impotent.
Kaori talking so openly with her friend about her not having sex with Hagi, is astounding, she just doesn’t seem to care what it is doing with Hagi. Her brushing him off once again is so frustrating to see.
I saw multiple posts about Sei becoming creepy because he keeps bringing it up, I personally would do the same if my friend/room mate/whatever can’t tell me why or what is wrong. Fuji constantly interrupts Sei when he tries to bring it up and then walks away is just painful to see. Though I would have been very direct with Fuji and just straight out asked why don’t you want to be physical with me. But then again I’m somebody who doesn’t shy away from tough conversations.
Communication isn’t this hard, both Kaori and Fuji should just listen and talk about what is bothering them, or at least explain it. So Sei and Hagi can make their decision if they want to stay, yes or no.
Again both Fuji and Kaori are cruel in this episode. With Kaori being able to talk about their sex life with a friend but not with Hagi, not to mention talking about their private issues to said friend. And with Fuji, I felt like he purposely tried to hurt Sei pushing on his toe. It felt almost like a punishment, because he dared to seek help from somebody else, that wasn’t him. Fuji seemed to have isolated Sei after his parents died. It feels very much like Sei trauma bonded with Fuji. Sei is dependent on him, for his happiness and joy, the way he used to wait for Fuji to return from work etc. And Fuji seems to enjoy the fact that Sei needs him, I feel like at times Fuji is emotionally and mentally abusing Sei. I’m glad Sei is actually going out with Hagi to eat or visit places and not constantly wait for Fuji anymore.
Also we all agree on the fact that the friend of Kaori tried to proposition Hagi, right?
Personally I love how this series is showing a very different almost taboo storyline. It’s very different from the fluffy, lovey dovey stories we have had. It shows, you just have to push somebody far enough for them to break and say enough! Very realistic.