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Replying to ibisfeather Jun 20, 2026
Title The First Jasmine Spoiler
I really dont pay enough attention t 'pavilions'. Which Pavilion is Tianyi?Now Han Ming Xi is mixed up with them.
Tianyi Pavilion is the supporter of former Crown Prince, and now supporting Mo Jingli. The leader is Han Mingyue, who is Han Mingxi's elder brother.
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Replying to noor1234 Jun 20, 2026
Ep. 24-28: My problem with this drama right now is simply this: If Qin Guard can be forgiven & have another…
I'll focus mainly on the plot elements from different perspectives.

You have completely overlooked the fact that Mo Jingli literally attempted to initiate a full blown war between 2 states. Please don't tell me it's Su Zuidie who did it. No, it's Mo Jingli who ordered it, and his people who took action. Means may be unintended, but the ultimate goal doesn't change.

You said Ye Li was concerned about Princess Lingyun. Yes, as an important political asset. Her death almost triggered a war after all. War is what she is really concerned about.

Though, everything's fair game in politics. So, I won't condem Mo Jingli actions. If he's capable, just go do it. Winner writes the history in the end after all.

I must disagree with why Prince Ding should support Prince Li by default though. What's in it for Prince Ding? Did Prince Li approach him? It takes two to tango. If Prince Li's offer align with Prince Ding's interest, may be I guess.

For Qin Cang and Lin Tinglan, I would like to look at it from a different perspective. We still don't know where Lin Tinglan's true alignment lies. But one thing for sure is that she looks down on Marquis. To me, that drunk converstaion was her trying to extricate Qin Cang from Marquis's sinking ship, because she expects the Marquis to fall sooner or later.
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Replying to Smiling Jun 20, 2026
The costume, makeup are all very light in this drama. But I didn't know it would affect peoples' view on other…
My preference generally leans toward slightly less busy aesthetics. So, when I'm watching dramas at two aesthetic extremes at the same time, it kind of forms a stark contrast. That's probably the reason in my case.
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Replying to Nick_Fox Jun 20, 2026
Because in this drama, everything feels natural. Even the makeup shows tiny details, like pores. There are plenty…
Exactly. Maybe this drama reminded me of how much I miss this aesthetic direction in my dramas. lol
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Replying to AtsukoM Jun 20, 2026
Title The First Jasmine Spoiler
Master Xiankun worked for Empress Dowager.Empress Dowager asked Master Xiankun to recruit Consort Dowager Qin…
1. I'm by no means an expert in the ancient weather forecasting topic, but based on the things I've come across in the Chinese media, ancient Chinese ppl had ways to predict weather to an extent by observing clouds, wind, and other environmental clues.

In the drama, when Ye Li did the painting, it was quite windy and the sky was not that clear. So, I can only speculate that Ye Li forecasted based on those clues.

2. This one I can connect the dots based on what's shown in the drama. Because of 2 things. Ye Li specifically mentioned she'll have to use her own ink, which implies that it's by no mean a normal ink. Then, the golden dust she applied afterward.

Since it can be replicated the same way Master Xiankun did, the 'miracle' and 'mystical' illusions crumbled. It's no longer a divine act exclusive to him. Master Xiankun's reputation was built largely on that rain summoning act after all. Since Ye Li could replicate it easily, others could do it as well.
Just like our view on mordern-day magic tricks. Once you know how it's done, it no longer feels 'magical'.

Hope this answers.
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On The First Jasmine Jun 20, 2026
Been watching TFJ only for the last week, and now that I started other costume dramas, I found myself not able to get into those bright colours and heavy ornament stylings at all...

I know this is temporary, but didn't expect it would have affected me this way. Gotta find myself something with similar aesthetics for the mean time I guess.
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Replying to kdramaddixxion Jun 20, 2026
Title The First Jasmine Spoiler
Questions!!!!!!! 😳Pls, help me clear a few things up about certain points:1) Why did Mo Xiuyao''s brother give…
1. I suspect this point will be revealed in details in coming episodes. My personal opinion is that by the time he arrives to the capital, the former Emperor is already dead. So, he couldn't trust anyone and hid it first. Later let Ye Li's mom recover it and bring it to Ye Li's grandpa, to announce it to the court to exonerate him.

2. They died by fire I suppose. The rest, no idea since the show hasn't mentioned yet.

3. I summarized it for another user here: https://mydramalist.com/779368-mo-li#comment-26519162

4. Explained in Ep27. Just misplaced anger for her exile and sufferings 8 years ago. Her delulu was that he was her betrothed yet didn't save her back then.
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Replying to AtsukoM Jun 20, 2026
Su Zuidie gotta thanks Ye Li, that she got caught by the government. Otherwise, she's gonna die by Mo Jingli's…
EP 27 - Su Zuidie
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On The First Jasmine Jun 20, 2026
Title The First Jasmine Spoiler
Su Zuidie gotta thanks Ye Li, that she got caught by the government. Otherwise, she's gonna die by Mo Jingli's hand lmao. 😂

As suspected, she went rogue with her plan targetting Ye Li.
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Replying to lulu Jun 20, 2026
is sunday 1 episode ?? confirmed?
Isn't Sunday 28-29 for express? I just checked the airing calendar.
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Replying to Nick_Fox Jun 20, 2026
Title The First Jasmine Spoiler
Toxic? Yes. The upcoming dramas are walking black flags like overdo..love for you and many more. But the ML in…
The novel ML is an absolutely terrible person, period. Thankfully the drama changed it. If you want to know how it went in the novel, read further.
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ML gr-pe FL and got her pregnant. Then, he went abroad just like that. FL gave birth by herself, and their child had to be given up to orphanage iirc. Later, he found their child, but hide it from FL that the child is gone.

They got married later and had a few months of good time, Then, it all went downhill. He neglected her, and even cheated on her while she was pregnant. Later, FL lost her spirit and the will to live, and got into a car accident.

@Nikshay's comment is accurate. It's a pretty depressing story.
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On The First Jasmine Jun 20, 2026
Gotta say, Consort Dowager Qin went out with a bang!

I ended up liking her character in the end. She let the steam out, then is absolutely decisive. 👌
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Replying to Nick_Fox Jun 20, 2026
Toxic? Yes. The upcoming dramas are walking black flags like overdo..love for you and many more. But the ML in…
You want to ask about Overdo or Against the Currents?
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Replying to CJK_Drama_Unlimited Jun 20, 2026
Marquis's illegitimate son plot armour was too illogical and was just mentioned he's lucky🤦🏼‍♂️...…
That's Han Mingyue, Han Mingxi's brother.
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Replying to Sameen meow Jun 20, 2026
Title The First Jasmine Spoiler
can someone explain me the lore between empress dowager, dowager consort and that master? Like what did ye li…
Master Xiankun worked for Empress Dowager.

Empress Dowager asked Master Xiankun to recruit Consort Dowager Qin to her camp.

Master Xiankun did just that via rain calling miracles and stuffs (the dragon painting thing), and asked Qin to stick with Empress Dowager since their affinity is good.

Qin listened and stayed loyal to Empress Dowager for many years until now. She had no idea about Empress Dowager and Master Xiankun.

Master Xiankun was later got rid of by the Empress Dowager as she no longer needs him 8 years ago during the Eastern Palace case.
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Fast forward to present, Ye Li introduced doubts to Qin about the connection between Empress Dowager and Master Xiankun, and also proved that he was just a charlatan by replicating his miracle rain summoning dragon painting.

Now, Qin is aware that she was being used by Empress Dowager as a pawn, where for the entire time she thought they had real sisterly relationship.
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Replying to BaekhyunoonaID Jun 20, 2026
She was the consort of the late emperor. She was a great follower of the empress dowager, until ep 25. Not sure…
Yes.

Generally,
Consorts (Concubines) from previous reign become Consort Dowager.
Empress of previous reign and Birth Mother of current Emperor become Empress Dowager.
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Replying to Nick_Fox Jun 20, 2026
Toxic? Yes. The upcoming dramas are walking black flags like overdo..love for you and many more. But the ML in…
Jiang Shan Wei Pin in July?? Oh, waiting for that one as well.
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Replying to Nick_Fox Jun 20, 2026
Toxic? Yes. The upcoming dramas are walking black flags like overdo..love for you and many more. But the ML in…
There's another one at the same level as Overdo novel ML. ML from the upcoming drama Against the Currents. Not sure how much they have changed this one though.

But, it truly is the era of black flag MLs these days. lol
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