Dolorianne

thank you :-)

Do we have an official-official confirmation on which Prince everyone is playing? I don't mean their names, that is already listed for them on here. I'm looking for the number. For example, I've seen Tay listed as the 3rd Prince and also the Crown Prince. I've seen Force listed as the 3rd and 9th Prince. I've seen Perth listed as the 9th and 10th Prince.

The ones I know for sure because they said it during the announcement are Win playing the 4th Prince, Nanon playing the 8th Prince, and Fourth playing the 14th Prince.

And it seems all the posts I've seen so far agree the Phuwin is the 13th Prince.

And that still leaves 1 prince missing/unnamed.

Yep ... he and his older brother grew up with this so he's very experienced. I'm more concerned about Jack. The actors' age gap is only 3 years, but the actor playing Jack looks 14 instead of 18.

Really enjoying the show. I came late to it so I was able to binge eps 1-12 before the 2 finale eps this week. Looks like we've reached the point were the mains are going to stand up for themselves. Anticipating the hidden cards the main lead and his mom have left to play.

Would have been a 9 or better until things went sideways in the last couple episodes. And that ending was insane. Is Siwat a twin, maybe? Not enough time for reincarnation. And I'm envisioning Thara getting his chance with this double. Because OMG.

My rating is for the actors doing their very best with the script they were given .. I would gladly watch these actors in something else.

All the missing stars/points are because of the plot holes and decisions made by the director and/or production staff.

Anyone know why Charn changed his name at the end? I'm rewatching episode 5 and it's a different name than in the finale. Did I forget something or did I just miss the explanation.

Cool twist for their forever ... and the final scene surprise is amazing and full of possibilities.

The only thing missing would have been tying Khem's past life further back than the little girl ... would have been an epic reveal if Khem's soul wentback as far as being the son of the mountain god that was killed ... which would have tied him and Peem together for over 1000 years.

I must have missed something huge with the English subs. There has to be more in the original Korean to explain what was going on.

The way I rushed to watch each episode .... and the first couple's HEA made sense. But without a proper HEA for GT and SWL, this series is incomplete. Author says there may be a season 2 depending on the response to the finale ... I hope that means the anger at the ending will translate to more episodes ... the sooner the better. Because if you're going to promote the actors as "Desire 4" then we need the full story for both couples.

Really enjoyed this series up until the final 10 minutes. I just don't understand why so many Cdramas end in main character deaths. Is no one allowed a happy ending?

Parn and Nani are good in this ... nice choice for the leads with a comedic spin .... but Prem is the standout for me. His villain-like scene was off the charts. Let him have an emotional arc in everything he does, but he needs to play more confident roles from now on.

First has said he's wanted to play a villain for a while ... so glad he got his chance. Would like to see him go full villain in something else, but he did great in this.

tried this when it first came out and stopped halfway through ep 1 because of the awful auto-translations. Looks like there are real translations now. I watched all 6 eps, and while their does seem to be an interesting story at the center ... this was basic fluff. Great if that's what you're looking for. Skip it if you're not.

The two wives seem to be fine with each other as far as I can see, even living in the same house. Both of the sons call each of them Mom. Surprised since the Major wife seems to be very high strung.

If you look up Major/Minor wives you'll see it has a long history in Thailand though society seems to be moving away from it.

The problem is the show did a horrible job explaining that.

Thailand has a Major/Minor wife arrangement similar to the Wife/Concubine tradition in the rest of Asia or "Sister Wives" situation here in the US. First wife is the legal wife with public recognition .... and the additional wives get commitment paperwork, security, and benefits that are just as legally binding, but aren't recognized publicly as legal wives.

I think he did love him, but he hated him more at the end ... for the broken promises, for the death of his people, and especially for the actions that led to Shuhe becoming emperor in the first place. He knew his brother was wrong, but still hoped he could convince the Crown Prince that he truly had no interest in the throne. And then everything happened and Shuhe found himself in the one place he tried to avoid his whole life ... then failing at it. It was a lot of get over ... especially when ZiAng's brother was adding to insult behind ZiAng's back.

I think the afterlife scene was to show that he would be able to finally let that go and just keep the love .... based on how his brother met him without his paranoia and greed, just the love and joy of brothers.

But the last few episodes made it obvious that they were both doomed. Zi Ang was too blindly obsessed and Shu He was never going to forgive. His last moments were dedicated to giving ZiAng everything he wanted just to rip it away less than 24 hours later. The short scene of happiness in the afterlife doesn't make this an HEA for me. :-(

Really wish we could get away from these types of endings.

They did a lot with so little .... I'm really impressed.