Surprisingly enjoyable. It's not the typical BL where you get service. These guys are just a normal older couple…
So you think it's realistic to portray a mature gay couple as barely touching, let alone having sex? What planet are you on? It's downright weird that you denounce any degree of physical affection as "service." Do you apply this same label to straight-themed shows. I doubt it.
A heart-warming slice of life about an adult gay couple with no major drama or unnecessary conflicts.. A simple…
Yeah, an adult gay couple who face none of the defects in their relationship, such as choosing one's parents over one's life partner, just for starters. This is a great show for gay folks still harboring mountains of internalized homophobia.
I watched this series excitedly after reading all of the glowing comments. While Shiro and Kenji do make a cute…
This is a big part of why I dropped it after five months. Zero physical affection (derided in comments here as "fan service") even in the absolute privacy of their shared apartment. I'm guessing they don't have sex because they lawyer's parents wouldn't approve.
wow. To me this show sucks and I'm dropping it at five eps. I don't care where it's set or in what century, this is an old-fashioned "we're queers and hate ourselves but aren't brave enough to commit suicide so let's live together and treat each other like dirt" to "get along" in straight society. And meanwhile, let's cook some Ramen!
Ugh. Dropping this at five eps. SO juvenile and silly...the guy talking to himself/us so he can share the recipe for homemade ramen as he makes it, which is his idea of a hot New Year's Eve since his asshole boyfriend has left him alone at home while he runs off to kiss his parents' asses and spend the holiday with THEM, even though the guys have been together for years and the parents know about it. It is so insulting to the hairdresser and yet the script plays it as normal and it's all good bullshit. I don't care where you live, if in 2022 you are in a civilized, fully industrialized society and you treat your partner this way, you are a douche bag. It's all made worse by the fact that the hairdresser is an enabler in his own mistreatment, lacking any shred of self-respect. "Sure, I'll stay home alone, separate from my partner and cook some noodles, watch a countdown and be perfectly happy on NY's Eve." I call bullshit.
Dropping...it's become more of a cooking show than a comedy/drama or whatever it is supposed to be. The hair stylist BF spending NY's Eve alone at home, perfectly happy while he makes Ramen for himself from scratch-carefully telling us all the steps and ingredients as he goes-babbling to himself like a crazy person while his live-in, years-long BF is off at his parents' house for the occasion. I don't care if this is supposed to be conservative Japan and the parents aren't ready for it, blah,blah, blah...I don't care where you live, you don't treat your life partner of long standing like garbage so you can go kiss your parents' asses. My god, he's 45 years old and still pulling this shit. Who needs it?
The stylist comes off as extremely self-demeaning and lacking in self-respect, even chiding the lawyer for finding fault with his parents and scolding him to go spend the night with mommy and daddy. Gag me.
The couple has not exchanged one kiss or hug, even within the complete privacy of their shared apartment. Hell, I don't know that they've come within two feet of each other and I'm into the 5th episode. This seemed to have a certain charm at first but that impression has proven wrong. I'm bored and annoyed, so as I said, I'm dropping. Is it a comedy? A drama? A cooking show?
20 minutes in...bored. I'm not a hard-core gangster/mob/crime thriller type of guy, so a flick like this has to suck me in right away and this one isn't cutting it. I liked the vibe at the beginning, but once the kids became what appeared to be 35 year-old high school students, it began to lose me. Especially the round faced scholar and the handsome, lean-faced boss looked like the fathers of high school kids and that kind of casting really annoys me. It pulls me out of the story to always be thinking how much older the actors are than the characters they're playing. Not in the mood for two hours of Korean men slapping each other in the head and cheek and kicking each other's shins...don't care.
Meh...I don't know. I always enjoy seeing Suda tearing up the scenery, plus he's put on some meat for this role and we get to enjoy his nice little butt a couple of times. However, this production felt like two different movies to me: The boxing/revenge movie with Suda and the Messianic Anti-Suicide Guru movie with that dude, whoever he is. The first is good and second is not. It is cheesy, stupid, juvenile and you can see the climax coming an hour ahead of time. Boring. The acting in the first movie is good; the second not so much. I'd ask what one has to do with the other but I don't care enough to find out.
So...after taking tonight off, I'll come back and watch Suda's flick tomorrow and hope it has absolutely nothing of the suicide thing whatsoever within it.
Do Japanese people really always f**k that fast, with that rapid-fire, immediate banging-away at top-speed it seems I always see in Japanese flicks, including porn? Does no one ever slow down and do some slow stroking and grinding as though they are enjoying themselves rather than trying to c*m first and get it over with? Also, in general, Japanese women seem to just kind of put up with the whole thing, not seeming to enjoy themselves and if that's the way all the men do it, I don't blame them.
If it is a suicide, they are not allowed to announce it in Korean media since celebrities suicides lead to an…
Your comment contains a lot of information and opinion, none of which I wasn't already aware. As I said in an earlier comment, the suicide of Kim Jong Hyun of SHINee, who I adore, led me to educate myself on the causes of suicide within the Korean entertainment industry, as well as the society as a whole. At first it was shocking to learn how bad it was, now, sadly, I'm used to having that knowledge.
But here's the thing: Every time a celeb/entertainer takes their own life, EVERYONE KNOWS ANYWAY, despite the government's and industry's efforts to tell us to STFU. The very fact that the government/company asks everyone to STFU in their ass-covering press releases issued after yet another suicide is a red flag that the death is suspicious or otherwise something someone wants to cover up. Which means it was suicide. YOU know it was suicide. Pretending you don't know is stupid.
I disagree about publishing the cause of death in cases of public figures. It is the public's right to know that as much as it is any other fact about a celebrity's life, which are shoved down our throats while they are living. In the U.S, it is the norm to include a cause of death in news reports about public figures. It is also the norm to do the same in the case of everyone else's obituaries too, unless specifically requested not to do so by the family, as in this case. I don't think I've ever seen an obit of anyone I knew that did NOT include a cause of death. The cause of death is included on a death certificate, which is a public document and public information. What weird sense of shame tells people to hide a cause of death?
Yes, I know Korea is not the U.S., but in many areas, despite how fucked-up the U.S. continues to be, moving toward many of the norms in the U.S. would be a GOOD thing for Korea, and this is one of them. You have some weird sense of shame/uneasiness surrounding the topic of death but that is your problem. Death is as much a part of life as is birth and when one of us leaves, the rest of us deserve to know why. I'll say it again: Korean media is shameless and unrelenting in reporting on the lives of celebrities, actual facts and accuracy be damned. Why all of a sudden should the cause of death of a celeb be off-limits? OF COURSE the public wants to know.
You list off a lot of things wrong with Korean society and then you list radar silence on suicide as a way to PERPETUATE all those problems. Silence and self-censorship is not the answer. Korean media: "We've told you every minute, alleged detail about this person's life regardless of it how it might embarrass, harass or stress-out this person ever since they became famous. We have reported everything we can get our hands on, true or not, who cares? But now that we've helped drive this person to suicide and death we are suddenly going to act decently and respectfully and refuse to report the facts."
Had to laugh at the line in the short review above referencing Suda as a "screamer." lol In the 18 months I've been soaking up gay-themed Asian cinema and Asian cinema in general, I've come to just assume that all the screaming is just how people really communicate in Japan, and to some extent Korea. Is this not the case?
Anyway, I've seen several Suda flicks, he's my fave Japanese actor, and I don't really think he screams nearly as much as some other Japanese actors.
This was actually pretty funny. So many Korean flicks have an excellent, realistic, gritty feel that mixes idiocy with corruption and professional stupidity in a way that has me laughing out loud at the strangest times...and it's all so fluid and ongoing/natural, little under-jokes and visuals are taking place at the same time as major exposition or whatever and it's absolutely hysterical and sad at the same time. What was being done to that poor disabled kid was appalling, along with the fact they couldn't care less about catching the ACTUAL perp as they set him up and framed him, and yet somehow I was chuckling half the time and laughing out loud now and then. The actor playing the retarded kid deserves an Oscar. Loved the bit with the "Nice" shoes they were trying to pass off as "Nikes..." and how the boy came back into the room to get the last shoe.
That all said, I'm dropping this after that scene. I don't know why, but I just can't get that interested...I don't even know why. I am not, and never have been a HUGE fan of murder/crime thrillers of any kind, but the Korean version has somehow sucked me in a few times. But not this one, I guess.
Spare me. This is crap.
5/10. dropped.
The stylist comes off as extremely self-demeaning and lacking in self-respect, even chiding the lawyer for finding fault with his parents and scolding him to go spend the night with mommy and daddy. Gag me.
The couple has not exchanged one kiss or hug, even within the complete privacy of their shared apartment. Hell, I don't know that they've come within two feet of each other and I'm into the 5th episode. This seemed to have a certain charm at first but that impression has proven wrong. I'm bored and annoyed, so as I said, I'm dropping. Is it a comedy? A drama? A cooking show?
Who cares? 5/10
Dropped.
So...after taking tonight off, I'll come back and watch Suda's flick tomorrow and hope it has absolutely nothing of the suicide thing whatsoever within it.
Do Japanese people really always f**k that fast, with that rapid-fire, immediate banging-away at top-speed it seems I always see in Japanese flicks, including porn? Does no one ever slow down and do some slow stroking and grinding as though they are enjoying themselves rather than trying to c*m first and get it over with? Also, in general, Japanese women seem to just kind of put up with the whole thing, not seeming to enjoy themselves and if that's the way all the men do it, I don't blame them.
But here's the thing: Every time a celeb/entertainer takes their own life, EVERYONE KNOWS ANYWAY, despite the government's and industry's efforts to tell us to STFU. The very fact that the government/company asks everyone to STFU in their ass-covering press releases issued after yet another suicide is a red flag that the death is suspicious or otherwise something someone wants to cover up. Which means it was suicide. YOU know it was suicide. Pretending you don't know is stupid.
I disagree about publishing the cause of death in cases of public figures. It is the public's right to know that as much as it is any other fact about a celebrity's life, which are shoved down our throats while they are living. In the U.S, it is the norm to include a cause of death in news reports about public figures. It is also the norm to do the same in the case of everyone else's obituaries too, unless specifically requested not to do so by the family, as in this case. I don't think I've ever seen an obit of anyone I knew that did NOT include a cause of death. The cause of death is included on a death certificate, which is a public document and public information. What weird sense of shame tells people to hide a cause of death?
Yes, I know Korea is not the U.S., but in many areas, despite how fucked-up the U.S. continues to be, moving toward many of the norms in the U.S. would be a GOOD thing for Korea, and this is one of them. You have some weird sense of shame/uneasiness surrounding the topic of death but that is your problem. Death is as much a part of life as is birth and when one of us leaves, the rest of us deserve to know why. I'll say it again: Korean media is shameless and unrelenting in reporting on the lives of celebrities, actual facts and accuracy be damned. Why all of a sudden should the cause of death of a celeb be off-limits? OF COURSE the public wants to know.
You list off a lot of things wrong with Korean society and then you list radar silence on suicide as a way to PERPETUATE all those problems. Silence and self-censorship is not the answer. Korean media: "We've told you every minute, alleged detail about this person's life regardless of it how it might embarrass, harass or stress-out this person ever since they became famous. We have reported everything we can get our hands on, true or not, who cares? But now that we've helped drive this person to suicide and death we are suddenly going to act decently and respectfully and refuse to report the facts."
I call BULLSHIT.
Had to laugh at the line in the short review above referencing Suda as a "screamer." lol In the 18 months I've been soaking up gay-themed Asian cinema and Asian cinema in general, I've come to just assume that all the screaming is just how people really communicate in Japan, and to some extent Korea. Is this not the case?
Anyway, I've seen several Suda flicks, he's my fave Japanese actor, and I don't really think he screams nearly as much as some other Japanese actors.
That all said, I'm dropping this after that scene. I don't know why, but I just can't get that interested...I don't even know why. I am not, and never have been a HUGE fan of murder/crime thrillers of any kind, but the Korean version has somehow sucked me in a few times. But not this one, I guess.
Dropped.