What's to like? All three were unstable, emotional basket-cases, set of fire off in one direction or another at…
I have a question: Why would the cops automatically assume that SOB who pressed charges was even telling the truth? He was the one who got physical first, kicking both guys from behind. I found that to be a little odd. And if I were (and I THINK I have the names right) Kazu I sure would have tried to come up with some other way to get the douche to drop charges, like threatening to out him at his place of work, I don't know...ANYTHING but giving up the butt to such a scum bag.
Oh, another question: How did Shin (the one who went to jail) all of a sudden go nuts about Kazu cheating on him with someone, I have no idea who, to which Kazu eventually responded by telling him he'd given it up to the douche to get Shin out of jail? Can you help me out there?
I just saw that "romance" is in the list of tags. Oh my god. lol
Had potential, but cut off without finishing or giving a good ending....
I liked the ending. I think Asian cinema and BLs are making me more and more comfortable with open endings This felt more like where the filming stopped but the story continued to me. I very much wanted the other BF to catch up with the one who left and explain things and make up but I don't always get what I want.
Plus, great excuse to make a follow-up to this first episode.
Second watch...and as per usual, I think I got a lot more out of this the second time. My opinions on "who was right about this, and who was wrong about that" are still muddled regarding the couple and I think that's an OK place to be left.
SPOILERS: I was really surprised by the guesthouse owner/manager moving in on the make so quickly; I was not expecting that, he seemed like a straight-shooter and that smooch was a shocker to me. but I can be really naive about that kind of thing. If the OTHER BF had gotten up and walked away he probably would have done the same thing. What a dick. His action made that whole speech he gave beforehand, which made a lot of sense and seemed sincere, also seem like a load of hooey to get in the other dude's pants. And let's face it, the BF he was smooching was not resisting...but we DID see him stop the kiss and push the guy away, which the other BF did NOT see. I'd still be pissed that he kissed him for any time at all, of course. That's tough to take.
Good short. I really liked the tense vibe between the big-mouth drunk chick and her husband or BF...I don't think she would have cared at all if the couple had been completely open about their relationship and the "alumni" remark would have annoyed me too. But their chat on the bench made it clear there are simmering tensions that need to be cleared. I hope they get a chance to do that after the one-shoed guy catches up with his pissed-off, hurt BF who probably thinks his other half did the deed with the guesthouse manager.
This was well-done. Great acting, nothing over-stated or over-wrought. Thought-provoking. Handsome actors. Great direction. Nicely filmed I'm sad there are not more watchers and commenters here.
Damn, he really said “good luck with just one shoe bitch”
lol Yes he did. I was going to right that the really bitchy part of me thinks that is an excellent and creative way to cause the other dude physical hardship at the same time as saying "f**k you."
Well, at least the kissing improved somewhat. lol And they got rid of the little guy's mustache, which is even better. WinWin is both kind of handsome and kind of creepy, a combination which flips my switch so I'm good with that. And there has never been a more adorable BL boy image than Good with that awesome Asian pony tail? Great casting, as these two have that elusive thing we call, for lack of a better term, chemistry.
Bonus points for the in-your-face lip-lock on the phone to piss off the stereotypical Asian bitch-mom ranting at Win over the phone.
Now we need a third episode so they can do the nasty.
Didn't realize they were still making BLs with this kind of horribly fake kissing as recently as 2019. Wow. That one was EXTRA fake. lol The little one is cute but needs to lose that god-awful little puberty mustache. lol
What's to like? All three were unstable, emotional basket-cases, set of fire off in one direction or another at…
Can you point out where I said all I want to see are "cookie cutter tales?" Thanks, I'll wait for you to look that up.
I comment all the time on these boards that the last thing I want to see are cookie cutter tales with happy endings. But this kind of nihilistic melodrama of head cases, and I know very well such people exist in the real world, can also be called out for what it is. I wasn't "frustrated." I wasn't pining for a happy ending. I commented on what was presented to me on screen, a nihilistic, three-way dance of self-destructive, seriously messed-up people. They all three need years of therapy. Is it somehow not OK to point that out as being a fact?
BTW, there are LOTS of people in the real world who are NOT like this too. Do I only want to watch those stories? Hell no. I have a serious jones for dark, twisted shit. I think it's just that these three don't OWN their own bullshit and think of themselves as victims. So the last pathetic scene of the dude sobbing on the sidewalk was the perfect ending. Those two will probably get back together though just for the pleasure of messing with each others' heads again further down the line.
So refreshing to get a positive ending, though those two have a LOT on their plate going forward. Asian parents of gay kids are the absolute worst, but KOREAN Asian parents of gay kids are the WORST of the worst. Ugh. That vicious, nasty, hateful way the mother spoke to her son near the end is so typical of what we see in other Korean films. I understand it's a cultural thing and people there are under unbelievable pressures about all kinds of things, but that bitch doesn't care for even ONE second about the happiness and well-being of her child. Her answer to the situation is pack up and run. Ha! Like that would keep them apart.
This one is tricky, though. They are in high school, so likely still under-age and that's not good. I would love to see a sequel or a full-blown movie that takes off where this one ends. There is so much possibility, love and angst to be explored here.
The bathtub/shower scene is the highlight for a lot of reasons: good feels, fun, the beauty of their friendship and how they take joy in each other's company, but mostly, SKIN! :D Great looking guys.
Park Jin Soo has become one of my favorite BL actors, or actors in general. I recently saw him in another BL short out of Korea in which he played a high school bully who was a flunky to another, more powerful bully and he was great in that part too. Completely different than the guy we see here.
SPOILER:
Question: In this short, early in the film we see the two of them hugging in a field, almost dancing with each other, which I took to mean they were already secretly a couple. But then as things progressed, especially after the Internet broadcast, it came to seem they were NOT together as a couple, having never confessed to each other. I found this confusing. Any thoughts?
Well-acted, produced, directed, but maybe it's my age: I just cannot get into these annoying, nosy, pushy, rude, embarrassing, manic female characters who I think the director/writer intends for the audience to sympathize with, but who I just find annoying as hell. Did I say I find them annoying? Oh, and they know no boundaries, or rather they respect no boundaries and this is supposed to be charming or free-spirited or something like that but which just comes off ANNOYING af. I wanted to slap her about 20 times during the short.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm supposed to understand that she is deeply wounded about something or other and that is why she acts out this way, but by the time we get to that part of the story I don't give a shit. I just want to slap her. She is very lucky to have that gay friend who puts up with her to some extent and actually speaks some snippets of a reality-check at her now and then.
The Caucasian hookup was the weakest link in this short. It's amazing how it only takes one or two lines to know someone is a terrible, terrible actor. omg, every word he said sounded so amateur actor-speak that it was painful.
Second or third watch over a 14 month period, not sure why but this one sticks with me. I was never bullied explicitly as was our lead, but I felt the possibility was there if anyone learned of who I really was, so I related to him. I also related to the object of his affections pulling back when he began to be ridiculed for their connection, as I distanced myself from other kids I thought to be gay as a way of preventing any connection being made. God, how I hate those hateful, cowardly bullies.
Not sure what is going on right at the end, even after three watches, and I think that's OK. I don't think he did what he seemed ready to do at the hospital, as he was in no rush to get out of the school. And why take your freaking textbooks along either way? And if you're leaving behind a confession on the camera, then why bother to pack up and leave at all? There's only one place you'll be going...don't know.
Well, that was certainly sweet, light and dainty, presenting a rosy and positive portrait of gay male relationships. lol
I hated this story, though it was well-acted, well-produced and generally well-told, though I felt I should be taking notes so I could remember who was boffing who and at what point in the story, and who was playing the victim, and who was being a douche bag...THAT would be all three of them.
I don't dislike the story because I think every gay story has to be a road map for people in the real world, but because there was nobody in the movie to like. All three were full of shit, cheating on each other with each other, for the most part, lying to the other, treating the other like crap, being bitchy and cruel and then playing the victim and screaming for justice, feeling sorry for themselves in the middle of the mess they helped create.
So I don't sympathize with any of the three. No one tried to actually talk calmly to the other; in that regard it was very Italian, lots of over the top shrieking and melodrama. And when I don't sympathize with ANYONE in a film, when I feel like they're ALL assholes, it's hard to care how any of it turns out. And that's how I feel about this one.
Acting was decent but I don't like the story, honestly. Aren't we beyond these kind of stories yet? See spoiler…
Can you tell me what you mean by "aren't we beyond these kind of stories?" Is there a committee somewhere that gets to decide what material gay-themed films are allowed to tackle? You want sweetness and light and unicorns to be the only allowable subject matter? This was a story of three very mentally/emotionally unhealthy people involved with each other, but such people and such entanglements exist, gay or straight, so what exactly is your problem with story-tellers telling whatever story they want to tell?
It was okay. The one guy was so upset at the end though when technically he'd caused the whole damn thing.
How did he cause it any more than his BF or the married guy? His BF was fucking the married guy on the side when the movie started, and was a complete asshole to his "lover" when he got back home.
I really liked this! I wish it was a full length film! The dynamic between the three lovers was interesting to…
What's to like? All three were unstable, emotional basket-cases, set of fire off in one direction or another at any moment and unreliable as hell. I hate when the word "lover" is used in situations like this. None of these guys love the other. They are drama queens who create their own misery, then sob over it as though they are the victm. Please.
Sad. I've a feeling the uptight one will never learn how to say "stay" in French or any other language. He is afraid of society's judgments and not willing to live as an openly gay man, officially be together, get married or anything else The worst part is that he seems to be aware of this aspect of his personality but completely unwilling to do anything to change it. I'm glad the other guy had the courage to get out even though I think he had great affection for his BF. A lot of people stay in unhappy relationships like that because they are afraid they can't do any better.
I think HT's little hiking buddy who looks exactly like XG is a fantasy, a psychological coping mechanism brought on by the emotional shock and ongoing strain of having lost XG. And I think HT is well aware of that, and acknowledges that it's probably not a good idea, which is why he gets up and leaves him in the restaurant so abruptly. He thinks it's time to let go of that particular delusion. For me, I'm not so sure: if seeing this little imaginary doppelganger somehow helps him cope, and he knows it's not real, then where's the harm? However, it seemed like maybe the pain of seeing XG that way outweighed whatever comfort it brought him.
Throughout the tenth episode, I just kept thinking "god, HT, I hope you're getting regular counseling to help you through this trauma, but four years on and he's still utterly shaken and sobbing, as though the incident just happened, tells me the likelihood of him getting mental health treatment is unlikely, this being Taiwan and all.
Oh, another question: How did Shin (the one who went to jail) all of a sudden go nuts about Kazu cheating on him with someone, I have no idea who, to which Kazu eventually responded by telling him he'd given it up to the douche to get Shin out of jail? Can you help me out there?
I just saw that "romance" is in the list of tags. Oh my god. lol
BRAVO
Plus, great excuse to make a follow-up to this first episode.
SPOILERS:
I was really surprised by the guesthouse owner/manager moving in on the make so quickly; I was not expecting that, he seemed like a straight-shooter and that smooch was a shocker to me. but I can be really naive about that kind of thing. If the OTHER BF had gotten up and walked away he probably would have done the same thing. What a dick. His action made that whole speech he gave beforehand, which made a lot of sense and seemed sincere, also seem like a load of hooey to get in the other dude's pants. And let's face it, the BF he was smooching was not resisting...but we DID see him stop the kiss and push the guy away, which the other BF did NOT see. I'd still be pissed that he kissed him for any time at all, of course. That's tough to take.
Good short. I really liked the tense vibe between the big-mouth drunk chick and her husband or BF...I don't think she would have cared at all if the couple had been completely open about their relationship and the "alumni" remark would have annoyed me too. But their chat on the bench made it clear there are simmering tensions that need to be cleared. I hope they get a chance to do that after the one-shoed guy catches up with his pissed-off, hurt BF who probably thinks his other half did the deed with the guesthouse manager.
This was well-done. Great acting, nothing over-stated or over-wrought. Thought-provoking. Handsome actors. Great direction. Nicely filmed I'm sad there are not more watchers and commenters here.
Bonus points for the in-your-face lip-lock on the phone to piss off the stereotypical Asian bitch-mom ranting at Win over the phone.
Now we need a third episode so they can do the nasty.
I comment all the time on these boards that the last thing I want to see are cookie cutter tales with happy endings. But this kind of nihilistic melodrama of head cases, and I know very well such people exist in the real world, can also be called out for what it is. I wasn't "frustrated." I wasn't pining for a happy ending. I commented on what was presented to me on screen, a nihilistic, three-way dance of self-destructive, seriously messed-up people. They all three need years of therapy. Is it somehow not OK to point that out as being a fact?
BTW, there are LOTS of people in the real world who are NOT like this too. Do I only want to watch those stories? Hell no. I have a serious jones for dark, twisted shit. I think it's just that these three don't OWN their own bullshit and think of themselves as victims. So the last pathetic scene of the dude sobbing on the sidewalk was the perfect ending. Those two will probably get back together though just for the pleasure of messing with each others' heads again further down the line.
So refreshing to get a positive ending, though those two have a LOT on their plate going forward.
Asian parents of gay kids are the absolute worst, but KOREAN Asian parents of gay kids are the WORST of the worst. Ugh. That vicious, nasty, hateful way the mother spoke to her son near the end is so typical of what we see in other Korean films. I understand it's a cultural thing and people there are under unbelievable pressures about all kinds of things, but that bitch doesn't care for even ONE second about the happiness and well-being of her child. Her answer to the situation is pack up and run. Ha! Like that would keep them apart.
This one is tricky, though. They are in high school, so likely still under-age and that's not good. I would love to see a sequel or a full-blown movie that takes off where this one ends. There is so much possibility, love and angst to be explored here.
The bathtub/shower scene is the highlight for a lot of reasons: good feels, fun, the beauty of their friendship and how they take joy in each other's company, but mostly, SKIN! :D Great looking guys.
Park Jin Soo has become one of my favorite BL actors, or actors in general. I recently saw him in another BL short out of Korea in which he played a high school bully who was a flunky to another, more powerful bully and he was great in that part too. Completely different than the guy we see here.
SPOILER:
Question: In this short, early in the film we see the two of them hugging in a field, almost dancing with each other, which I took to mean they were already secretly a couple. But then as things progressed, especially after the Internet broadcast, it came to seem they were NOT together as a couple, having never confessed to each other. I found this confusing. Any thoughts?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm supposed to understand that she is deeply wounded about something or other and that is why she acts out this way, but by the time we get to that part of the story I don't give a shit. I just want to slap her. She is very lucky to have that gay friend who puts up with her to some extent and actually speaks some snippets of a reality-check at her now and then.
The Caucasian hookup was the weakest link in this short. It's amazing how it only takes one or two lines to know someone is a terrible, terrible actor. omg, every word he said sounded so amateur actor-speak that it was painful.
Not sure what is going on right at the end, even after three watches, and I think that's OK. I don't think he did what he seemed ready to do at the hospital, as he was in no rush to get out of the school. And why take your freaking textbooks along either way? And if you're leaving behind a confession on the camera, then why bother to pack up and leave at all? There's only one place you'll be going...don't know.
I hated this story, though it was well-acted, well-produced and generally well-told, though I felt I should be taking notes so I could remember who was boffing who and at what point in the story, and who was playing the victim, and who was being a douche bag...THAT would be all three of them.
I don't dislike the story because I think every gay story has to be a road map for people in the real world, but because there was nobody in the movie to like. All three were full of shit, cheating on each other with each other, for the most part, lying to the other, treating the other like crap, being bitchy and cruel and then playing the victim and screaming for justice, feeling sorry for themselves in the middle of the mess they helped create.
So I don't sympathize with any of the three. No one tried to actually talk calmly to the other; in that regard it was very Italian, lots of over the top shrieking and melodrama. And when I don't sympathize with ANYONE in a film, when I feel like they're ALL assholes, it's hard to care how any of it turns out. And that's how I feel about this one.
Well-acted and produced. I liked it.
Throughout the tenth episode, I just kept thinking "god, HT, I hope you're getting regular counseling to help you through this trauma, but four years on and he's still utterly shaken and sobbing, as though the incident just happened, tells me the likelihood of him getting mental health treatment is unlikely, this being Taiwan and all.
God, my eyes and tear ducts hurt.