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OK, that's lovely about the Jasmine plant. How many audience members know, or would be expected by a writer or director to know, about the poetic meanings and symbols connected to a Jasmine plant? So...knowing that, what's the point of including it. Isn't it simpler to see the plant as something delicate that Konno took tender care of and which had been killed or destroyed?

The fire thing is interesting. Who said that? I don't recall. Here's my biggest problem with the film: What in the world about Hiasa would attract Konno? He's not handsome. He is arrogant, rude and leaves cig butts everywhere he goes, which means he doesn't respect others in the slightest. He's not charismatic or charming. He says truly creepy shit like pomegranates taste like humans and we're standing on corpses. Konno isn't stupid, but the script makes him out to be.

Exactly what was Hiasa about to do when he "found" the snake on Konno's chest? I think he put it there.

Aren't things that "steal the bait" acting in a way that is "too greedy?" So how is something that steals bait NOT too greedy, and thus NOT good? Seems like a contradictory statement to me.

So...what's the point...of any of this?

I'm two-thirds of the way through watching this for a second time, having forgotten until my re-watch started that I had seen it before. lol One of my first thoughts then was "ooh...I think I remember this was kind of boring..." lol But I watched it all the way through the first time too, just as I'm doing now, I guess because there's enough about it that intrigues me and the acting is good. It does give me that feeling at times of being annoyed because it's being boring DELIBERATELY, not that it's moving slowly or thoughtfully which is not the same thing as being boring on purpose, maybe to make some kind of artistic or stylistic point, or maybe there's a reason the director feels it must feel boring as part of the story, I don't know. I'm pretty artsy-fartsy, but I have no patience for movies that are slow and boring out of some misguided attempt to BE artsy-fartsy. And I'm at the point right now where that's how I feel about the movie. Part of the reason I came here to drop this comment was to give myself some relief from the tedium.

I'm sorry, but I see no reason Konno would be attracted to Hiasa OTHER than that he's the first person to pay him any attention in ages. But from their first meeting Hiasa is in-your-face rude, obnoxiously arrogant, smokes like a haystack and has no lips. What is attractive about that? It's not as though he is charismatic in some just-below-the-surface way, and that's what draws Konno in. Dull and conceited and spouting off pompous pronouncements aren't a turn-on for me. And of course we have the downright creepy shit going on like saying that a pomegranate tastes like humans, or just happening to find a (non-poisonous?) snake next to you on the floor in the middle of the night (what was he doing when he spotted the snake if he didn't put it there?) There's the small matter of disappearing from work and Konno's life with no warning and then reappearing just to sell Konno some shady-sounding funeral/wedding bullshit? Konno doesn't seem stupid, but his bullshit detectors are set awfully low. I don't know, it just seems like the character and the director are fucking with Konno and us because they can.

So now a trans woman shows up out of nowhere. At least that's interesting. I'll be back after the credits.

Yeah, I agree. The whole thing with neither Yoon Oh OR his mother trying to communicate with each other through Peach is just weird and unrealistic. And I think it could make for some powerful and moving scenes to have the two of them reconnecting, just as you've said.

I also agree that someone likely pushed him. But who the hell pushes a 19 year old kid in front of a car?

Well...isn't the explanation for that that Yoon Oh does not remember, at this point, exactly how or why he ended up in front of the car? That's another thing, couldn't the writers have been more original with the method of Yoon Oh's death other than yet another freaking car running over a BL person?

WHAT A GEM.

It's not BL, but it's damn good for what it is. I thought it would be kind of a comedy, and it was, kind of, but I cried at least twice per ep. It maybe repeated itself a few two many times and there might have been too many scenes of people looking at each other with resolve and determination beaming from their faces, but....can you really have too much of those kinds of things?

For its utter originality, at least to me, for its huge heart, sound acting and thrilling gymnastics routines and fight scenes, I'm giving this freaking thing a 9/10 and don't care what anyone else thinks of it.

BRAVO.

These are the sort of rah-rah-rah posts that make me suspicious their authors are paid by the production company or they are relatives of cast members. lol No offense intended of course...

So...does that mean you think it should be rated higher? For me, the current rating seems about right as there are important things I like and dislike about the series, but it's more good than bad so a modestly positive rating seems appropriate. I want to know things like why can no one see the clothes that Yoon Oh wears, or the coffee cups and little pitchers he uses to make coffee. Would they be seen to seemingly float around in the air as he uses them? Where does Mario get his suits? Why do ghosts need clothes in the first place? It is also unrealistic that the mom, who is a great actor by the way, isn't using every opportunity to communicate with Yoon Oh through Peach. My god, she just found out she has the ability to do that, and that Yoon Oh is in the house and she just goes "oh well...whatever" and goes on about her business. Lots of things like that are being overlooked and explaining them somehow would give the story a greater sense of realism, even if it IS a ghost story.

I'm not nearly as into this as I was during the first three episodes and it's because of lot of implausibles have piled up and ruined the fantasy.

I don't think I've heard of that one. Is it any good other than the ghost/human boinking?

Four episodes in. If I could I would bing-watch this all night. But I can't so I won't.

I adore this series. I went into it, having read the synopsis and considered the material, assuming it would be some kind of slap-stick/high school sex comedy. There is a little of that but it is much more a drama with comedic elements like the continued use of the shrieking Japanese male line delivery. lol But wow, I care deeply about all the characters; the script just keeps on giving up more and more about each one with each episode. I cry a river two or three times each episode.

I love that not once has anyone on the team, or anywhere else that I've noticed, made fun of the little guy for his naturally high-pitched girl voice. What a sweetie-pie he is.

There is some melodrama and more than a little cheese, but I'm there for it with the crackers. :D

LOVE this show, and I've just finished the first episode!

I knew when I saw Azuma and his gang at the beginning and him looking every bit some awesome combination of Mick Jagger, David Bowie and Michael Jackson, I thought "oh...this could be funny, exhilarating, inspiring, emotional and best of all, tongue-in-cheek with the over-the-top screaming/yelling/throat-shredding parody of the melodramatic Japanese acting style used by macho men," and I was right! It is!

I am totally into it and looking forward to the rest of the eps. I am watching on KissAsian though and going thru, like 15 screen-size pop-ups just to get to the start button. Do these advertisers really think they glean some benefit from such a stupid type of advertising? Oh well, that's the price of watching it for free, so I'm cool with it.

I do hope the show gets gayer than it now is, which is hardly at all...though there have been a few meaningful-looking and long-held glances between Takanaka and a couple of side-characters we don't know anything about yet. How can you manage to make a show about men's rhythmic gymnastics no-gay?

Final point: I am very non-violent in philosophy in general, BUT a great deal of violence is done with the mouth by hateful, vicious things people say too. Yes, toward the end of this ep Azuma should not have physically accosted that player from an opposing team. However...that kid was mouthing off in a deeply disrespectful and unsportsmanlike manner and I would like to see that kind of behavior punished as well. He should have walked on by without saying a word, not pause to arrange his rivals with put-downs and other bullshit. Perhaps we will get to see that brat taken down a few notches in future episodes.

So glad I stumbled across this.

Oh right...that was pretty disturbing. The dad was clearly in very bad shape and yet they had him there at home rather than in some kind of long-term care facility. And whatever compassion SJ may once have felt for his dad was long gone; you could feel the annoyance and resentment coming off him in waves as they sat at the table together.

Thanks for reminding me.

Is it too much to want to know if a mortal and a ghost can make love? And if it's not too much, then why haven't we been shown that very important aspect of the plot? Where did Mario get that black suit he looks so great in? And why does it actually fit him whereas the other suit was two sizes too big?

The mother breaks my heart. Incredibly gifted actor, plus she just has the look of someone who has wept themselves to sleep far too many times... :(

Meh. I've seen this twice now and still don't think it ranks as the "classic" I keep seeing it called.
Sam/Fai is an asshole who treats other people like shit behind their backs and drops them like flies.
So given that he is one of the movie's centerpieces, how am I supposed to care what happens to him?
If Stephen Fung as Jet was not allowed to smoke or push his hair back from his head and face melodramatically, he wouldn't know what to do with himself. Always sucking a cig as an actor's crutch.
Jet was kind of a douche too, given his little night-time gigs he was still pulling while playing flirty-flirty with Sam. That whole Sam/Jet thing was weird for the longest time. Folding clothes with Sam's mommy. I guess he was playing house.
So I guess Sam/Fai made a permanent exit after daddy saw him banging Jet. Typical old-fashioned gay movie tragic ending. And I didn't care. When everything came full circle and everyone found out everything about everyone else...yawn.

Why do directors put endings after credits where almost no one will see them?

OK, so after posting the comment below, I went back and watched the ending the director put in AFTER the freaking credits. It was delightful, sweet and intriguing.

NOW...could someone please explain WHY some directors do this putting the ending on AFTER the credits thing? What is the purpose of that? If you're in a theatre, I guarantee you 90% of the audience gets up and leaves during the credits. I watch all my BL and gay flicks online and I have never watched the credits all the way through except for this one and a couple of others after I discovered in comments that there WAS another ending after the credits. WTF is the purpose of that? Please help me understand...

Saitoh Takumi is the most beautiful Japanese actor of all time. Just wow.

How horrible to be stalked by your best friend AND your little sister.
I kind of didn't mind the creepiness of her crush on her older brother, but I wish that angle would have been played up even more. I was hoping they WERE blood siblings just to make certain heads explode in comment sections here. :)
When all four of them showed up at the dude's boxing camp, I was like "leave the poor guy alone, for god's sake."
Didn't really get the best friend's rant at his buddy on the beach about the sister. It seemed to me he was encouraging the boxer to see her as a possible love interest, which was gross.
I mean, if he's 18, then she's 12. Total pedo territory, which again, would have been interesting if they had gone there. :D

OK, just read there's an ending after the credits, so I have to go back and watch that...

Duh...just remembered: I went to the link three comments below and downloaded the movie from there to my computer. English subs are included, you have to select them from the subtitles box on the screen. If you want, you could message me your email and I could send the downloaded movie to you directly. Let me know, and I hope you enjoy this little gem as much as I did.

damn, I had to hunt for it for a while. I will see if I can find in my browser history where I watched it.

I think I once tried to watch this before, but dropped it about halfway through out of boredom. This time I forced myself to stick with it just to see what the hell was going on.

Main problem: the movie is not nearly weird enough to also be this boring.
Secondary problem: the MC actors are too young to convincingly portray the dynamics here.

Actually, I don't think the core story is all that "weird." A child is psychologically damaged by witnessing his best friend being killed by a rock thrown by one of two young men who they just saw having sex on the forest floor. He and his friend were wearing blank white animal masks at the time as well as short and shirts associated with schoolboys. The child grows into a man with a fascinating sexual kink/fetish involving the male scent on the shirt and shorts of a boys' school uniform. As harmless as this is to a point, he is beginning to take major risks that put his career in jeopardy, like sniffing boys' clothes in the classroom and stealing their uniforms, as well as fixating on a particular male high school student.

Lots of people have fetishes, fantasies, sexual kinks of all kinds. This one seems harmless enough to me and I thought the teacher's husband taking on the part of the schoolboy by dressing in a school uniform and taking a hike with him to get it nice and stinky prior to sex was a perfect solution. Imagine the intensity of the sex they could have after that, as well as the depth of trust keeping such a thing only between them would engender in a relationship.

Instead, the husband let his conventional, limited and ultimately cowardly way of seeing the world make the final decision for him and he left his ultra-hot husband.

This felt like potentially deep subject matter taken on by a group of ninth-graders.
The teacher was hot af.
The school boy's parents were annoying af.
What the hell did Thai politics have to do with any of the above?
The movie was twice as long as it needed to be.
There should have been much more nudity.
Until he started dragging the kid into it, the teacher's kink seemed harmless.
Always lock your doors from the inside before rolling around naked on the floor of your house with some kid's school uniform.
So was the husband's dad some kind of monk, mental patient, or just a dad pissed off ever since his son went gay and moved in with a dude?
Was there some significance to that huge house they lived in?
Or the fact that they used school desks as tables?