Why is the current rating so low? This drama is a blast of fun. Yeah all characters are doing shady things in secret, but the drama makes a satire about that , the music and camera make fun of "looking good on surface". I really like we get to see scenes again but from a different character's view. So the satire is a part of the psychological thriller
SR's brother is so charming courting FL's sister :) I enjoy watching his scenes.
I like CN and OldestBrother scenes. Yeah she is pretty as is. A strong woman.
and what's up with that snakey ex-wife - her ex is DIVORCED and can pick any woman now and any friend for BitNa and his woman WILL BE BitNa's stepmom. Get a grip, you nasty one. If you didnt want to let go on him and the kid then you should have not divorced him. She doesnt want him but also she wants to keep him around forever. Well - forget it. The dude is SINGLE AND FREE to do as he pleases now
Fashion notes: Wow EA looks so beautiful in the wedding outfit, that slinky top is perfect for her. And SR looks gorgeous in the wedding gown, what a beautiful woman and in a real body, she is not a skeleton. And MH as usual - and, no wide pants on MH please, the tight cylinder pants are better. His legs are thick enough, he doesnt need a boost And, Crystal did steal the show, wow what a hanbok. SR's mom had a pretty hanbok too.. DaiChi's blue-with-white-trim coat was ... ough... cheesy SR's brother looks great in a suit
I am waiting for DoDo bomb to explode any minute. ML already fell for FL. She didnt yet but will soon, but before then, .... DoDo is gonna cause a nuclear explosion, esp with ML's mom. His mom is just not going to accept JiNi as good enough ever I really like ML but is he still a mommy son? Also, I really like acting of ML actor. He is super charming And super skinny and pale. His looks terrify me. I want to put him on a feeder tube and send him outdoors for some physical activity
Wow 1st wife and her family do NOT really feel sorry one iota about dissing JiNi back then, they are just faking apologies to get her marrow. Wow jerks
I didn't think their relationship will be that serious before he disappear. To have a child. Plot Synopsis by…
he is not a bad guy but he is not a strong determined mature guy :) He leaves collapsed grannies on the street... He did not stand up for FL. He chose the family business. OK back then they were young and he had no clue what love means, and also, she was in a tight spot in her life and the timing was not right... but after 8 yrs, she is established and she should be ready now, and he should know better that one has to FIGHT for his love, it doesnt come on a silver platter. Well - seems like it will take him anywhere from ep 20 to ep 48 to become clear on that..
Not sure if you're familiar with the term 기러기 아빠I seen both sides , wife cheating and husband rotting…
imo those ppl are trying to uphold the perfection imposed by the society, tht the man has to take care of his family, and they are trying to PROVE to the world that they can. Also, they dont really love their wife or kids and this is a cheap way to avoid them. And they do not see a way out, bc they do not want to deviate from social norms. Seems like they somehow feel guilty, not enough, inadequate
So my conclusion is that S Korean men would make great husbands with a little bit of proper training, i.e. they would be great for western women, who would NOT demand perfection in providing for the family and would train them to communicate and relate and be more free and themselves. I think Korean men would do great with African Americans - those ladies would be STOKED to have a reliable guy who doesnt run around - and Koreans are fun and physical enough, there is kpop, kdance, etc they have a sense of humor and fun.. they might be fun enough for a black lady - but then he cannot be racist... Also, nothing tops a good black guy for fun, they are so musical, physical, sensitive, artsy, have a great sense of humor, communication and having a great time, they are so social and make fun time any time, they are very rare ones who really know how to "play" - get together and play music, dance, talk, etc - they are masters of having a good time- - but heythey run around a lot.... so if a Koran guy can be that warm and friendly and fun... and be loyal and reliable ... wow he made it. Black women need good guys. Also, seems like those Korean men would do great with Eastern European women, ... bc they are more caring and sensitive and kind... and with any woman of any color/race from the USA
The western woman finally gets a reliable man who is a dedicated husband, and she doesnt have to worry about cheating etc But the drinking is a problem. Many Korean men are probably alcoholics and this remote lifestyle helps them to upkeep their alcoholism. So this partnership program accepts only those who have no addictions to anything.
I think we have a great potential here for cross-cultural collaboration.
The only problem is finding western women who want to have kids... or else S Koreans will die off. They have lowest birth rate globally
But I really think they need to be set free of the social chains, forcing them to die, not live, trying to generate wealth and "look good". So EITHER their women give up that social stigma OR some outside women take over and take advantage of this precious resource - a RELIABLE LOYAL HUSBAND. WOW THOSE ARE ALMOST EXTINCT IN MOST OF THE WORLD
What is YuNa's medical condition? She seems scared / anxious while she talks to herself to justify all the killing and stealing she is doing, and her face is the same when she gets found out. Is that just an incompetent actress? YuNa is a cold blooded psychopath serial killer, she has ZERO conscience, she is 100% cement inside, nothing human, NOTHING. So what is all that "anxiety" about? Fear that she will be caught?
wow HJ already went insane. There is no going back. Start of ep today (97?) makes it 100% clear the blind dumb JJ just doesnt want to accept what she is seeing, over and over again gets taken by her mental stiff wrong thinking and control. JJ cannot feel, cannot think clearly, she is like a mentally disabled person. JJ ihas NOT made ONE good decision in this entire drama, except joining the Aunt. JJ is 100% ruined by PTSD - she needs a long time in rehab
i took a break from daily dramas and haven’t watched this one. For those of you watching, is it worth starting?
imo you might be happier watching Our Happy Days, Family Register, and weekender Love on the Menu - unless you are looking for a very raw makjang, where 3 serial killers wreck chaos in a bynch of dumb victims trying to execute revenge. The victims finally start working together maybe in ep ... 70? I forgot - but it is very late - and then it gets interesting as good guys win and lose, win and lose... right now we are on "lose" :) before ep 70 or so, it is all "lose". and pathetically The plus side of this drama is watching HJ actor rise to stardom, that is a new excellent actor who should become a star, and the drama has some really deep dialogues and dilemmas, mostly around HJ character
IS CRYSTAL A NARCISSIST? or ... what is it? Thanks HOW IS CRYSTAL'S BEHAVIOR DESCRIBED MEDICALLY?
I watch dramas to figure stuff from real life. So when Crystal went into G's room and started snooping, and G found her and screamed, she attacked him for startling her and was all upright about "what wrong did she do????" and asking G to apologize for startling her and telling her to get out My own mother does that all the time. So I want to know:
I didn't think their relationship will be that serious before he disappear. To have a child. Plot Synopsis by…
yes you are right. I read only Asian Wiki description in the post, and after reading MDL description, seems like AsianWiki is wrong. Someone should let them know. I doubt that MDL would wrongly repeat several times that she owns the shop
Seems like all her hard work paid off and she bought a shop, finally? And seems like he never gave up his family. Seems like that Italian restaurant is his family's too. Seems like he dumped her bc his mommy said so and threatened him to lose everything if he didnt. He is a bad guy
We get the diagnosis early, when the grandpa collapsed, he kept going without even thinking to help. So yeah seems like he chose his family's wealth over FL and dumped her, she got a side shop, and then they somehow ran into each other again
knowing that her father who she loves dearly, she might not marry Minho because of what his father did to her…
yeah you are right! she would not bail out of concern for destroying MH or G and EA by keeping this secret. She would bail out bc MH side hurt her side.
at the end it is all about protecting her own comfort in living in her perfect controlled world And, she cares for her dad - or anyone - ONLY as long as he provides her comfort. As soon as her dad was unable to provide her with the perfect home/family, she ditched him BC HER PERFECT WORLD COLLAPSED. At the end, she knew the story and asked her dad to keep quiet so that SHE could live in a perfect world provided by MH for her.
SR is a parasite!!!
The snowflake porcelain doll perfectionist egomaniac So what is her medical diagnosis? Compulsory obsessive about perfection and self comfort, as one manifestation of deep narcissism? I am curious
I like that the drama is quite real and shows inherent sexism in daily life. ML beat up customers and nothing happened. FL was a little late to work and would have lost her job or something bad like that if she had not promised to clean and close for a month. FL asked her NarciSister to take care of the kids and the house, she never mentioned that Gyu O should do it too, and he did not offer either. Everyone praising "kind cute pretty" woman as something desirable, never mind how smart, capable and strong she is. In many ways, it feels like watching Joseon. Unfortunately the same sexism, globally, everywhere, it just can look slightly different..... USA sexism requires a woman to look like a barbie doll "sexy", subservient and flirty, ideally promiscuous too, while also being a work horse. Like the gisaeng. Yeah. An ideal american woman is like a gisaeng but with a regular job making tons of money but behaving like gisaeng with her male coleagues and everyone And this drama would look almost the same if we put historical costumes on them Dont take me wrong, I do like the drama, these are just things I observe and learn from. No culture is without its dark side
I felt dejavu. I was raised by a narcissistic mother and Han Gyuyoung’s behavior is so simillar to typical narcissistic…
FL's dad is a narcissist too and even worse, he is the father yet exploiting and abusing his kids. The note he left about having tuna in the fridge when he comes... and he comes home every once in a few months, and keeps bringing different women home, who just leave kids behind..
The drama shows the sexism of Korean society so FL is hit with a 5-way whammy, oldest and kind daughter in a poor family without a mom
They are seriously piling the family trauma on the FL from the get go. Hope it’s not as bad as Beauty and Mr…
yeah why arent the siblings helping.? ... esp the blouse thing - why doesnt FL just tell the Narcissist Sister to wash her own clothes? something is weird there, isnt it? FL looks like a smart strong person so finally she kinda set the boundary, but she did not mention that teenage boy will take care of anything.. and why are 6 kids living off the paycheck of FL? dad sends no money?
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I like CN and OldestBrother scenes. Yeah she is pretty as is. A strong woman.
and what's up with that snakey ex-wife - her ex is DIVORCED and can pick any woman now and any friend for BitNa and his woman WILL BE BitNa's stepmom. Get a grip, you nasty one. If you didnt want to let go on him and the kid then you should have not divorced him. She doesnt want him but also she wants to keep him around forever. Well - forget it. The dude is SINGLE AND FREE to do as he pleases now
And MH as usual - and, no wide pants on MH please, the tight cylinder pants are better. His legs are thick enough, he doesnt need a boost
And, Crystal did steal the show, wow what a hanbok. SR's mom had a pretty hanbok too..
DaiChi's blue-with-white-trim coat was ... ough... cheesy
SR's brother looks great in a suit
I really like ML but is he still a mommy son? Also, I really like acting of ML actor. He is super charming And super skinny and pale. His looks terrify me. I want to put him on a feeder tube and send him outdoors for some physical activity
Does putting her on family registry even matter now? .... all inheritance was divided up already
OK back then they were young and he had no clue what love means, and also, she was in a tight spot in her life and the timing was not right... but after 8 yrs, she is established and she should be ready now, and he should know better that one has to FIGHT for his love, it doesnt come on a silver platter. Well - seems like it will take him anywhere from ep 20 to ep 48 to become clear on that..
Also, they dont really love their wife or kids and this is a cheap way to avoid them.
And they do not see a way out, bc they do not want to deviate from social norms. Seems like they somehow feel guilty, not enough, inadequate
So my conclusion is that S Korean men would make great husbands with a little bit of proper training, i.e. they would be great for western women, who would NOT demand perfection in providing for the family and would train them to communicate and relate and be more free and themselves. I think Korean men would do great with African Americans - those ladies would be STOKED to have a reliable guy who doesnt run around - and Koreans are fun and physical enough, there is kpop, kdance, etc they have a sense of humor and fun.. they might be fun enough for a black lady - but then he cannot be racist... Also, nothing tops a good black guy for fun, they are so musical, physical, sensitive, artsy, have a great sense of humor, communication and having a great time, they are so social and make fun time any time, they are very rare ones who really know how to "play" - get together and play music, dance, talk, etc - they are masters of having a good time- - but heythey run around a lot.... so if a Koran guy can be that warm and friendly and fun... and be loyal and reliable ... wow he made it. Black women need good guys.
Also, seems like those Korean men would do great with Eastern European women, ... bc they are more caring and sensitive and kind... and with any woman of any color/race from the USA
The western woman finally gets a reliable man who is a dedicated husband, and she doesnt have to worry about cheating etc
But the drinking is a problem. Many Korean men are probably alcoholics and this remote lifestyle helps them to upkeep their alcoholism.
So this partnership program accepts only those who have no addictions to anything.
I think we have a great potential here for cross-cultural collaboration.
The only problem is finding western women who want to have kids... or else S Koreans will die off. They have lowest birth rate globally
But I really think they need to be set free of the social chains, forcing them to die, not live, trying to generate wealth and "look good". So EITHER their women give up that social stigma OR some outside women take over and take advantage of this precious resource - a RELIABLE LOYAL HUSBAND. WOW THOSE ARE ALMOST EXTINCT IN MOST OF THE WORLD
the blind dumb JJ just doesnt want to accept what she is seeing, over and over again gets taken by her mental stiff wrong thinking and control. JJ cannot feel, cannot think clearly, she is like a mentally disabled person. JJ ihas NOT made ONE good decision in this entire drama, except joining the Aunt. JJ is 100% ruined by PTSD - she needs a long time in rehab
The plus side of this drama is watching HJ actor rise to stardom, that is a new excellent actor who should become a star, and the drama has some really deep dialogues and dilemmas, mostly around HJ character
IS CRYSTAL A NARCISSIST? or ... what is it? Thanks
HOW IS CRYSTAL'S BEHAVIOR DESCRIBED MEDICALLY?
I watch dramas to figure stuff from real life. So when Crystal went into G's room and started snooping, and G found her and screamed, she attacked him for startling her and was all upright about "what wrong did she do????" and asking G to apologize for startling her and telling her to get out My own mother does that all the time. So I want to know:
Seems like all her hard work paid off and she bought a shop, finally? And seems like he never gave up his family. Seems like that Italian restaurant is his family's too. Seems like he dumped her bc his mommy said so and threatened him to lose everything if he didnt. He is a bad guy
We get the diagnosis early, when the grandpa collapsed, he kept going without even thinking to help. So yeah seems like he chose his family's wealth over FL and dumped her, she got a side shop, and then they somehow ran into each other again
at the end it is all about protecting her own comfort in living in her perfect controlled world
And, she cares for her dad - or anyone - ONLY as long as he provides her comfort. As soon as her dad was unable to provide her with the perfect home/family, she ditched him BC HER PERFECT WORLD COLLAPSED. At the end, she knew the story and asked her dad to keep quiet so that SHE could live in a perfect world provided by MH for her.
SR is a parasite!!!
The snowflake porcelain doll perfectionist egomaniac
So what is her medical diagnosis? Compulsory obsessive about perfection and self comfort, as one manifestation of deep narcissism? I am curious
FL asked her NarciSister to take care of the kids and the house, she never mentioned that Gyu O should do it too, and he did not offer either.
Everyone praising "kind cute pretty" woman as something desirable, never mind how smart, capable and strong she is.
In many ways, it feels like watching Joseon. Unfortunately the same sexism, globally, everywhere, it just can look slightly different..... USA sexism requires a woman to look like a barbie doll "sexy", subservient and flirty, ideally promiscuous too, while also being a work horse. Like the gisaeng. Yeah. An ideal american woman is like a gisaeng but with a regular job making tons of money but behaving like gisaeng with her male coleagues and everyone
And this drama would look almost the same if we put historical costumes on them
Dont take me wrong, I do like the drama, these are just things I observe and learn from. No culture is without its dark side
The drama shows the sexism of Korean society so FL is hit with a 5-way whammy, oldest and kind daughter in a poor family without a mom
and why are 6 kids living off the paycheck of FL? dad sends no money?