There was no subs when i wanted to watch this drama earlier, so I watched the first few minutes of today (Fr) episode without subs. The scene of ML escorting FL home and talking in front of her house was amazigly well acted flirting, and the way it was filmed was super excellent and drove the point even more. E.g. camera standing behind G, so that you can see how he put his head to the side and tnen put *only* his head forward and REALLY close to EA, and how she was pretending to be nervous but LET HIM enter her personal space. It was such a masterful scene in every way. THE DEAL IS SEALED. Two two are on a fast sailing ship. He knows it, and she is starting to admit it to herself, and both are not ready to admit in public. But the ship is already on the high sea... :)
Yeah that scene of JJ meltdown and MJ calming her - was MASTERFUL acting and script To see the dilemma and the natural split - the traumatized animal screaming let's kill them both - and the calm voice of sanity saying stay out of that, that is NOT a proper revenge and will only hurt you bc you will have to live as a murderer.
So it is interesting that Chloe never resolved her trauma. So ... weird. You would think someone with such trauma will... take up yoga and pottery and art therapy, go climb Himalayas, go to some kind of professional counseling, run every day, etc etc etc etc etc etc - something to detox and restart all new - but no. For 7 years, she did not sleep and she lived in torment every day.
I say - she is a machohist :) Well at least she did not take to drugs, alcohol, or other addictions. At least she was a functional adult.
Damn, was this drama written by an amateur? I’ve never seen this many K-drama clichés packed into one single…
Ah consider yourself lucky then - you didnt watch Dynamite Kiss, or Our Universe, or Practical Guide to Love? cdrama Pursuit of Jade? kdrama Perfect Crown... ? Lucky you
I have just started watching this drama after watching many youtube reels and in the 1st episode itself, the FL…
Just passing through, I saw this. FYI in dying relationships. ppl think of other things instead of their date... and women are NOT obliged to fake attention to any guy :) ...
I saw the end of ep 8. It is called THE JOHN WAYNE MINE EXPLODES - ie. poker faced, no-communication, no-emoting, totally immature zipped up MChuR - goes full on in his HeTheToughMan mode, stabs, and runs
So did the audience expect anything else from John Wayne/Clint Eastwood Good Bad Ugly???? MChuR is written as a super immature character who 100% lacks skillZ to solve tough problems and to communicate. HE CANNOT TALK. Can he learn and mature enough in 4 eps... ? tough luck. The script threw him under the bus.
How MChuR behaves is very ... 1950s John Wayne HeTheMachoMan. Why would script writers still write John Wayne characters and the audience still like such behaviors???? It is year 2026...
Even the most handsome guy is ugly when he is grumpy and/or mean ...and has personality of cardboard... no warmth and charm ...
BL genre is originally and predominantly written by and for straight women. But nowadays a lot of different people…
Ok if that is how you look at it. I would find that super boring and useless :) It is a fantasy that does not help me learn how to better live my life. If I am watching some drama or a movie, I want to somehow enrich my life.
I dont want to watch it like a drug or alcohol that will take me to some delulu land where I can fantasize some delulu that will actually make my regular real life WORSE when I get off that
eg I watch a show where all neighbors are male and I love it .. then the show is over and I look at my non-male neibhbors and I feel disappointed and want to "kill them"
Nope, I dont want to feel like that after watching :)
But everyone is free to do whatever they want so if you want to watch stuff like that, it is your choice
Whover is intrested in the drama should watch it - isn't that obvious? lmao I am straight and I watched some lgbt+…
and fyi this strategy of divide and conquer has been always used and always worked .... about 1 mil black slaves coming into poor rural white South USA could have easily got together with the poor whits and overthrown the few rich ppl :) but ... the poor white ppl were bribed by allowing to diss the slaves and to feel superior ... and the black came from different tribes and hated each other and never managed to work together..
Pathetically dumb, you would say? YES INDEED
Everything works like that!!! GIVE SOME BENEFITS THAT DONT COST YOU A DIME - trade glass beads for gold ..... . and swindle the stupid and use and abuse them. Works like a charm :)
Whover is intrested in the drama should watch it - isn't that obvious? lmao I am straight and I watched some lgbt+…
Ah you are showing your ignorance. Gays ARE just people like everyone else, and also - they are a unique group of people with specific characteristics.
There are zillions of groupings, cultural pockets, that are unique like that. You can "slice" and look at groups at different levels of gradations,
For example - women. Straight vs not, white vs not, young vs old, mothers vs not, etc. THEY ARE ALL DIFFERENT GROUPS :) a black single teenage mother that grew up S. LA in a multigenerational home without any men around is VERY different from a white princess from 1995 movie Clueless ...
You get what I am saying now?
WHY IS THIS IMPORTANT? BC PPL WORK BY SOCIAL CONNECTIONS, AND THEY ALWAYS CONNECT TO THOSE WHO ARE "THE SAME" AND DISS THOSE WHO ARE "DIFFERENT"
and .. the abused are the same kind as abusers lmao Look at Jews - totally genocided in Nazi Germany, and now genociding Palestinians ...
So to me, it is interesting to see all that
Look at it like ... the binomial nomenclature :) You
Whover is intrested in the drama should watch it - isn't that obvious? lmao I am straight and I watched some lgbt+…
Oh so many lmao Women were slaves for eons, and it is all based on hetero reproduction... So let me lay out the very core of it. Hetero is required for reproducing, i.e. accumulating cash cows, i.e. having kids who are gonna grow up to be your slave labor - work for you, be soldiers for you, teethe for you, vote for you, help you conquer and colonize others for you, adore you, celebrate you, take care of you when you get old, ... ... So .... how can you have that for free? Ok lemme think... aha! make women stupid, lowly creatures like animals, and thus justify your essentially jailing them and enslaving them... Take all their rights, all their property, give them no power, no voice whatsoever, and just use them to take care of your house and kids and manage your property for you FOR FREE :) So ... how do you maintain this machine smoothly operating on its own? Simple. Some of your slaves are male. So give them special slave status and allow them to oppress women and feel like they are the top. AND brainwash the women to ACTUALLY BELIEVE they gotta be so dumb and do everything for free. So make it so that women have to get a guy to be their "front" and their livelihood, so make women compete against each other and kill each other to become Ms. of some desirable guy. So then... how does it translate into modern times and "emancipated independent women" Hey it was ... Rochafeller? some of those ... who said - it was great women went to work. Because we now can tax men AND women, and the kids are now left to us to train and brainwash in the school. Feminism was fantastic for our purposes.
So ... a homo woman is out of question bc you cannot assign her to a guy, like you would brand cows - this one is mine, this one is yours. Also she is out of question bc by definition women are slaves and cannot POSSIBLY think of anything different. A homo man is out of question bc he is not producing kids / free labor / soldiers / heirs . But he is ok if he is rich bc then he is above the law.
This is the jist of hetero domination amongst humans on Earth, The second you can produce babies without mothers, .... the game of marriage, family, etc etc etc is OVER.
Right now, the game is pretty much over in the West, which has entered into a decadent "old Rome falling apart orgy phase" where women are as equally bad despicable as men doing the same things they have criticized men doing. The drugs are the modern "orgy" vehicle.
The West has rotted from inside out and now the question is, where is the next emerging dominant civilization.
i hope the extra 20 ep. will help the writer to give a better complete and not rushed satisfactory end !!! . maybe…
Imo JH has most material for some rich script.. It is too simple to just put him to jail or make him die from leukemia or be shot by HY..... the most complex script WOULD have to use an external motivation bc JH is just too far gone off the rails to come back to sanity quickly, so something external like him being nailed in some calamity and then forced to self reflect and suffer :) and then some clever dialogue to help him transform and root his mind in sanity
SR script would be most interesting with that kind of plot too...
JM/BH scripts would be most interesting if he stops being her blindly loyal bodyguard and actually stands up to her stupidities and she transforms
HY's lapdog certainly should go to jail but should transform there
Professor and his wife... should divorce. MUCH LATER, as a reformed man, he should start courting her heavily and put in a lot of effort to woo her. She should be free and become super extra rich and successful bc as a single she has the time for herself :)
i hope the extra 20 ep. will help the writer to give a better complete and not rushed satisfactory end !!! . maybe…
what do you think would be a cool/interesting/good end?
Imo the most interesting script would reduce all these "who is biological parent" external plots and spend time to develop characters better. My ideas are in the spoiler
The scene of ML escorting FL home and talking in front of her house was amazigly well acted flirting, and the way it was filmed was super excellent and drove the point even more. E.g. camera standing behind G, so that you can see how he put his head to the side and tnen put *only* his head forward and REALLY close to EA, and how she was pretending to be nervous but LET HIM enter her personal space. It was such a masterful scene in every way.
THE DEAL IS SEALED. Two two are on a fast sailing ship. He knows it, and she is starting to admit it to herself, and both are not ready to admit in public. But the ship is already on the high sea... :)
To see the dilemma and the natural split - the traumatized animal screaming let's kill them both - and the calm voice of sanity saying stay out of that, that is NOT a proper revenge and will only hurt you bc you will have to live as a murderer.
So it is interesting that Chloe never resolved her trauma. So ... weird. You would think someone with such trauma will... take up yoga and pottery and art therapy, go climb Himalayas, go to some kind of professional counseling, run every day, etc etc etc etc etc etc - something to detox and restart all new - but no. For 7 years, she did not sleep and she lived in torment every day.
I say - she is a machohist :) Well at least she did not take to drugs, alcohol, or other addictions. At least she was a functional adult.
e.g. 17 ppl rated super low episides that did NOT air yet...
So did the audience expect anything else from John Wayne/Clint Eastwood Good Bad Ugly???? MChuR is written as a super immature character who 100% lacks skillZ to solve tough problems and to communicate. HE CANNOT TALK. Can he learn and mature enough in 4 eps... ? tough luck. The script threw him under the bus.
How MChuR behaves is very ... 1950s John Wayne HeTheMachoMan.
Why would script writers still write John Wayne characters and the audience still like such behaviors???? It is year 2026...
Even the most handsome guy is ugly when he is grumpy and/or mean ...and has personality of cardboard... no warmth and charm ...
I would find that super boring and useless :)
It is a fantasy that does not help me learn how to better live my life.
If I am watching some drama or a movie, I want to somehow enrich my life.
I dont want to watch it like a drug or alcohol that will take me to some delulu land where I can fantasize some delulu that will actually make my regular real life WORSE when I get off that
eg I watch a show where all neighbors are male and I love it .. then the show is over and I look at my non-male neibhbors and I feel disappointed and want to "kill them"
Nope, I dont want to feel like that after watching :)
But everyone is free to do whatever they want so if you want to watch stuff like that, it is your choice
about 1 mil black slaves coming into poor rural white South USA could have easily got together with the poor whits and overthrown the few rich ppl :) but ...
the poor white ppl were bribed by allowing to diss the slaves and to feel superior ... and the black came from different tribes and hated each other and never managed to work together..
Pathetically dumb, you would say? YES INDEED
Everything works like that!!! GIVE SOME BENEFITS THAT DONT COST YOU A DIME - trade glass beads for gold ..... .
and swindle the stupid and use and abuse them.
Works like a charm :)
There are zillions of groupings, cultural pockets, that are unique like that.
You can "slice" and look at groups at different levels of gradations,
For example - women. Straight vs not, white vs not, young vs old, mothers vs not, etc. THEY ARE ALL DIFFERENT GROUPS :) a black single teenage mother that grew up S. LA in a multigenerational home without any men around is VERY different from a white princess from 1995 movie Clueless ...
You get what I am saying now?
WHY IS THIS IMPORTANT? BC PPL WORK BY SOCIAL CONNECTIONS, AND THEY ALWAYS CONNECT TO THOSE WHO ARE "THE SAME" AND DISS THOSE WHO ARE "DIFFERENT"
and .. the abused are the same kind as abusers lmao Look at Jews - totally genocided in Nazi Germany, and now genociding Palestinians ...
So to me, it is interesting to see all that
Look at it like ... the binomial nomenclature :) You
Hetero is required for reproducing, i.e. accumulating cash cows, i.e. having kids who are gonna grow up to be your slave labor - work for you, be soldiers for you, teethe for you, vote for you, help you conquer and colonize others for you, adore you, celebrate you, take care of you when you get old, ... ... So .... how can you have that for free? Ok lemme think... aha! make women stupid, lowly creatures like animals, and thus justify your essentially jailing them and enslaving them... Take all their rights, all their property, give them no power, no voice whatsoever, and just use them to take care of your house and kids and manage your property for you FOR FREE :)
So ... how do you maintain this machine smoothly operating on its own?
Simple.
Some of your slaves are male. So give them special slave status and allow them to oppress women and feel like they are the top. AND brainwash the women to ACTUALLY BELIEVE they gotta be so dumb and do everything for free. So make it so that women have to get a guy to be their "front" and their livelihood, so make women compete against each other and kill each other to become Ms. of some desirable guy.
So then...
how does it translate into modern times and "emancipated independent women"
Hey it was ... Rochafeller? some of those ... who said - it was great women went to work. Because we now can tax men AND women, and the kids are now left to us to train and brainwash in the school. Feminism was fantastic for our purposes.
So ... a homo woman is out of question bc you cannot assign her to a guy, like you would brand cows - this one is mine, this one is yours. Also she is out of question bc by definition women are slaves and cannot POSSIBLY think of anything different.
A homo man is out of question bc he is not producing kids / free labor / soldiers / heirs . But he is ok if he is rich bc then he is above the law.
This is the jist of hetero domination amongst humans on Earth,
The second you can produce babies without mothers, .... the game of marriage, family, etc etc etc is OVER.
Right now, the game is pretty much over in the West, which has entered into a decadent "old Rome falling apart orgy phase" where women are as equally bad despicable as men doing the same things they have criticized men doing. The drugs are the modern "orgy" vehicle.
The West has rotted from inside out and now the question is, where is the next emerging dominant civilization.
the most complex script WOULD have to use an external motivation bc JH is just too far gone off the rails to come back to sanity quickly, so something external like him being nailed in some calamity and then forced to self reflect and suffer :) and then some clever dialogue to help him transform and root his mind in sanity
SR script would be most interesting with that kind of plot too...
JM/BH scripts would be most interesting if he stops being her blindly loyal bodyguard and actually stands up to her stupidities and she transforms
HY's lapdog certainly should go to jail but should transform there
Professor and his wife... should divorce. MUCH LATER, as a reformed man, he should start courting her heavily and put in a lot of effort to woo her.
She should be free and become super extra rich and successful bc as a single she has the time for herself :)
Imo the most interesting script would reduce all these "who is biological parent" external plots and spend time to develop characters better. My ideas are in the spoiler