InspectorMegre

Well maybe I overstated it. I thought it was fresh, clean, and honest. For a high school drama, it is great.
it is honest and realistic, it was a drama about RELATIONSHIPS - in general and then specifically with gay issues. It was about supportive families in many different forms, about supportive friends in many different forms, and about supporting love, in many different forms.
I really liked the dialogues and the advice that the girl gave to others.
Non-straight ppl complained the straight couple took over the drama but I thought it was great, to show how all kinds of ppl live and live together in peace. It would be so much easier if everyone was honest about their orientation and everyone lived as they wished. So I thought this drama portrayed such world relatively well and i appreciate that.

I liked the scenes of their daily lives and different kinds of families they had. I like the mixes of all kinds of diferent kinds of ppl and different types of families - where everyone can find the peace and safe heaven they need.
and i like the character of their school friend who was a girl and her positive influence. A very strong young woman. It is rare to see such strong female characters in kdramas... so she was really precious.
I liked how the straight guy handled it when he discovered that Hee Su was hitting on him
I liked how the gay guy handled his relationship with Hee Su. He was patient and gentle and did not force anything.
I liked how the closet / secret thing was handled. It wa very tactful yet it was clear the guys were hiding.
I liked how Hee Su was flawed and overcame his issues
I liked how the two guys started their relationship
I think it was just ... natural..
to some degree. Bc ... the strange thing is that the guys werent jumping on each other. It was a little devoid of any physical atraction feelings. I chalked it on the fact they were just kids and Hee Su was very inexperienced and just came out.

Cherry Miracle is a lot more realistic but there we have one experienced adult. The other one was weird bc he seemed to be totally asexual until that point.

So ... did straight women write these scripts??? Now I am wondering...

SO I AM JUST WONDERING THEN WHAT EXACTLY I SAW!!!!! DID I SEE SOME FANTASIES WRITTEN BY STRAIGHT WOMEN??? in which case, i would feel really cheated.

So tell me - are these dramas fake?

After watching a bit of other BL dramas, I dropped them bc they were a lot more aggressive and rather promiscuous imo and I did not see much emotional work in there.

also, what made you like BL dramas you mentioned?

ML is really a space cadet so he isnt funny to me, he looks mentally off and even ill...
The mystery screen is also .. a schicophenic detail ....

Aaah I see, he is ML from Weak Hero ... where he was (not) acting in this same way.... well hopefully his acting abilities are more than just a spaced out mentally off kid...

Luckily the soldiers are funny... That battle with the food machine guns was hilarious lmao

What you said is exactly what I meant :)
and I too didnt watch today's episode :)

all stuff i mentioned is about "Big Brother" big machine that eats small ppl.
it doesnt have to be just one robot who does it, you can look at the elites as one "robot" that rules others

wow i dont even understand half of this. BL market vs gay market... ? what did LGBT+ community do ...?... etc.
Anyways, this is a big topic obviously

I think you should not be this lazy and you should describe what exactly you meant and what the context is :)
and all stuff i mentioned is about "Big Brother" big machine that eats small ppl.
it doesnt have to be just one robot who does it, you can look at the elites as one "robot" that rules others

what is LLM?

Adjuma called DM back to Agit as soon as he found the friend.
Script can be fixed. The filming does not start in 1 hr :)

Adjuma is just kicking DM into high gear, forcing him to start paddling hard. She is tired of him just siting in the canoe and criticizing how others are paddling. SHE WANTS HIM TO PADDLE TOO OR DISAPPEAR so she just put a gun to his head and said PADDLE!!!! OR DIE!!!! and that is really the only way to get him to do it lmao He has become waaaay too lazy

Yeah she is too protective of her husband and that makes the hubby even weaker lmao

In summary: You are totally missing the point. There is someone else who also replied to this post so I just explained it to them. Please read that response above.

it was.
But there was not even a kiss in there and there were straight friends of both. So ppl complained the drama was boring
I think it is a masterpiece

1. She doesn't truly love her husband :) Catering to him and doing him a favor is not love, it is enabling. She truly thinks her husband is a weak person, she does not respect him at all...

2. She called DM idiot when she was mad at him, and rightfully so, he is really behaving in dumb immature ways and she wants him to grow up asap. AND SO SHE GAVE HIM A CHANCE TO gRoW UP lmao and also she called DM an idiot when she was mad at her husband who is truly an idiot lmao She is fond of DM and does care for him. For example, when she found out he has a gfriend, she called him back to the restaurant.

3, She is not a saint... and she is not DM's personal friend etc. She is not obliged to help him. But she is helping him. And, she is very perceptive. What she told her hubby at the breakfast about making fun of an idiot makes you an idiot... what she told to Mr. Choi and his offer...

NO she is not producing that film out of hate lmao How could you even think that???? do you even know what hate is???? You are so ... immature... lmao YOu think when someone does not kiss as# and coddle, they are hating...

CAN YOU DISTINGUISH BETWEEN HATE AND BEING ANNOYED AT YOUR LAZY BUM FRIEND? He is like an oversized baby bird STILL sitting in the nest on the top of the mountain, acting all high and mighty, and badmouthing all the birds, saying he wants to fly, he is ah so ready to fly, he knows how to fly, he flies ah soooo well, .... but cannot bc he never got a chance, and other birds are not flying correctly.

The Adjuma knew he HAS to get a chance and then step up and prove his words... ...

The Adjuma is smart and she gave him the chance to prove his words - and just pushed him out of the nest and said FLY!!!!!! OR DIE!!!!! But he himself said he can fly. So she is NOT killing him lmao She is helping him get out there and fly.

and to make it really high stakes, and make sure he is sure that he WILL die unless he starts flying, she said - I am sure you will die.

She is kicking all his emergency gear into action.
AND THAT WAS THE ONLY WAY TO GET THAT FAT OLD OVERGROWN BABY BIRD TO TRY TO FLY lmao

and so - he will HAVE TO fly :) she is breathing down his neck so there is no room for him to make mistakes or procrastinate or find exuses.

LIKE A POWER GODDESS, SHE BURNED ALL HIS EXCUSES lmao Totally totally brilliant and very brave

So funny this won best drama award at Baeksang this year lmao

With all due respect ... this award thing is not ... quite trustworthy lmao Seems to be influenced by money, status, and "politics" . Well... of course lmao what did I expect ....

May I ask you, since you seem to know the subject -
is it true that many BL dramas are written by straight women for straight women? If so, why??? it seems totally odd
So what would *real* BL audience watch then... ?

Would kdrama Hee Su in Class 2 qualify for your list?

that is weird. Why would straight women like to watch bl dramas? what relevance does it have to their life??? Usually ppl like to watch "themselves" on screen

and how can a woman write about BL, something she has no idea about? unless she closely works / lives with bL ppl... but even then...

Straight women like to watch lots of cute guys :) So wouldnt a woman like to watch something about.... a soccer male team lmao or mostly male office, or many cute guys courting one woman? - which is a common topic, practically every kdrma has a love triangle and 2 guys chasing one chick

Whover is intrested in the drama should watch it - isn't that obvious? lmao
I am straight and I watched some lgbt+ dramas bc I was curious to learn about that group.
I dropped many such dramas bc honestly they are too pornographic and have too much violent streak - e.g. some gay psycho hunts a guy who doesnt know yet he is gay ... and I have learned to weed out those dramas by the drama poster. If the drama poster shows naked ppl, or two ppl in physical contact, etc... that means ... i will ignore that drama.

and some bl dramas like highschool coming of age kdrama HeeSu from Class 2 was super deep and highly artistic, real masterpieces imo. Also jdrama Cherry Magic: Thirty Years of Virginity Can Make you a Wizzard??? is the adult equivalent of HeeSu. and imo has some of the best portrayals of what real love looks like in real life. One ML is a super green flag.

So in all that, I found that my tastes are different than most lgbt+ watchers want and like. For me, their tastes are too promiscuous, and for them, my tastes are totally boring and also "too straight". I like seeing lgbt+ in the context of the whole world, since they too came from some mother and father :) and live and work with all kinds of other kinds of ppl, and they prefer to see dramas only with their kind, as if they live on planet that is strictly lgbt+.

so - you decide what you want to watch and what you dont want to watch.

you need to understand that group anyways since they are everywhere and so they must be around in your own life,
and esp if you have anyone in your life who is like that - family, friend, coworker, former/potential lover , etc... if you have severe hatred against that group..... if you have such tendencies secretly .... if you take care of kids and/or have kids - bc these days kids are FORCED to be gay, androgenous, promiscuous, etc. ...

Also, dont be fooled, gay community is very powerful, they got money and people in high positions, they are all over entertainment industry and donate money to politics and vote, and are actually overall super conservative and actually NOT progressive at all, they tend to selfishly elbow their own personal interest forward (eg. environment exploitation, labor exploitation, autocratic politics, discrimination etc). The fact that they are ighting for lgbt+ rights does NOT mean they pay attention to anyone else's rights lmao .

So do not think of them as some poor people without rights. Yeah there are issues being LGBT+ and many ppl suffer from it, and also ... many rich influential ppl keep pulling strings to help their kind.
it is a very complex topic

Uh oh this sounds so Hwood - escaping the world and paying a huge price for it and not able to step back and FIND A SOLUTION THAT WORKS FOR DAILY LIFE IN THE NEXT 100 YRS ...
so they find this beautiful solution and it kills them? very hwood hopeless, with the message - " dont even try." Sooooo hwood. Esp belitling the natural living ..... making it into something that kills you....

I think this drama could be for real if it showed how Ocean helped them transform and how they were living healthier and happier from that

1 ep per day is to keep audience interaction and thus advertisers, i.e. help kdrama LIVE
and also you need to be here int he Comments enjoying the discussion and going deeper into the drama

The plot sounds intriguing... a spec of light in a dark bunker, pun intended
So another mostly male drama... Hope it sheds some healing on the issues of the male dominated world

Enablers are very common anywhere. It stems from the basic human need to be socially accepted, and the deep roots of that are in the family - because as children we must appease our parents so that we stay ALIVE AND FED :) and even loved :) And our parents are never perfect.
In Asia, it is deeply ingrained societal norm to obey the parents so many ppl have trauma from that.
in the West, it often exists in cultures with tight families, like Jewish, etc. But for most, families are broken, so ppl resort to finding some strangers to bond with, and they too often bond under addictions, such as partying, s.x, drugs... and enabling is #1 principle behind addictions. So in Western media you will often see toxic ppl enabling each other and never getting out of that. Most hwood movies are based on that. OR they show some super lucky small person who by total luck and magic somehow "won the lottery and made it". Total delulu...

The advantage of kdramas is that they show the problems but they also offer some solutions. A real kdrama WILL show a person struggling with the obedience to parents and other problems, but the drama will also show how the person CONSTRUCTIVELY AND PRODUCTIVELY AND POSITIVELY SOLVED IT in their life and EVOLVED.

*** that principle of exposing the difficult heavy subject with lighthearted humor in compassion, and the character growth achieved by self reflection, proper communication and proper action, alone and in cooperation with others, is the signature trait of kdramas ***** that is why they are so healing and satisfying. Kdramas are based on the principles of True Storytelling - show th problems, show the struggle to overcome them, and show the transformation.

The beauty of kdramas is that they show specific small steps an ordinary person CAN do to rise up. THAT is precious. And precisely bc of it, kdramas are now being destroyed. There is a great hype and great ignorant and/or slimey effort in that direction.

Ex-hwood audience finds this healing feature of kdamas very attractive but also they are used to heavy hype and pain and doom, and delulu fantasies without any substance, so they ask kdramas to have that... and then ... it can be exploited to destroy real kdramas... if we make only those fake kdramas, kwood dramas...

Some are just chasing money, making it more hwood like to sell more to audience used to that, and some are intentionally maliciously destroying the kdrama concept. For example, current Chinese system canNOT afford to teach ppl how to rise up lmao

yeah there are tons of trashy kdramas, but even the worst trashy kdrama is usually better than something western lmao
and good kdramas are really healing art
I would say most kdramas are spiritual teachings put into a fun story
So even seemingly cheesy rom com kdrama like Spring Fever or Positively Yours or even My Dearest Nemesis have very very profound healing messages

So for that... at least 16 ep dramas showed 1 ep per day, 2 eps per week, and totally "made in Korea"