This drama has amazing dialogues and amazing lines. It is a profound philosophical discourse typically through the mouths of DM, EH, HJ. or DM's brother and best friends. (but not always - which makes it more realistic and fun to watch).
So I noticed I watch other stuff differently now, my eyes / ears are "sharper". The trashy script or poor acting that annoyed me before is now right into my face and undeniable.... and it is clear, I shouldnt waste time with it.
Dongman saying that he's like a human sponge and his feelings depend entirely on whether his environment likes…
That's true for everyone, but his problem is that he STRONGLY REACTS in external ways when he feels that "bad energy", and that is why he is a man-child.
As an adult, he has to be grounded in himself to not be influenced to do stupid things when the environment is problematic. Only then can he work with 200-500 ppl on a movie set.
He needs to learn to stay calm and to solve problems regardless of others. And if the environment is too harmful and not improving after asking to do so, to leave.
Monday episode (#103) was such a trashy soap, I am speechless. Esp. trashy script and trashy acting on everything related to JM's kidnapping. I hope it improves asap.
JH is shown as an obsessed dangerous person, concocting very elaborate and devious plans to hurt JM and BH, and SUCCEEDING in carrying his plans. AT THIS POINT, JH IS A PSYCHOTIC CRIMINAL, and it will get worse. He really needs to go to a psych hospital asap, he needs HELP before he kills or permanently harms someone and/or himself.
JM and BH are too dumb to help JH stay sane, Chairman is too greedy to help him, and hopefully HY will help him out of her greed and check him to a psych ward asap. The situation is just getting out of control and he could really really really really cause SERIOUS damages and PERMANENTLY flip into a monster. It is pathetic how delusional he is. He *can* come back but he needs help asap, or else who knows what will happen.
But JH actor needs to be able to carry that role. He is too... flat. He really has no talent for acting. This is already ep 103... he should have improved significantly by now. He is good only for tiny insignificant roles. JM actress also didnt impress me at all with kidnapping scenes. She doesnt seem to act well anything related to being poor, dumb, abused, etc. Also, she is totally cold to BH. No chemistry whatseover from her. BH actor is marvelously acting it =====================
So JH is the son of Lapdog and HY, born when HY was a poor and unknown actress. So he is about 5-7 yrs older than SR/JM? He was already a little adopted boy who was getting free food from his neighbor SH when she was having SR/JM and helping in the T. villa. We dont know if SH was only pregnant or already gave birth when she was giving food to JH... AND JH GAVE HY's HAIRPIN TO SH, out of gratitude for his warm meals. SO JH HAS LOVE AND GRATITUDE IN HIM. Did HY know that JH was living next to T. villa???
Later, JH got leukemia. How old was JH when he got leukemia? that's how much older he is than SR/JM. As soon as he got it, his adopted parents dumped him.
Was JH still living next to T. villa when HY was stealing the twins... ? JH might have seen something...
Seems like JH is being set up to be forgiven so that he can marry SR - bc JH and SH have a beautiful bond from that T. villa. Esp if JH saw something at T. villa and will testify.
So at this point we need more info on HY's past and how Lapdog fits. HY and Lapdog grew up in the same orphanage, says Lawyer Mom report. How did HY hide pregnancy and birth from Lapdog for 7-8 months?
Lawyer Mom is correct, one side of Lapdog is a very nice man. Soooo nice that he will commit murder to help his loved one HY - and nothing but her interests him. NOTICE THAT LAPDOG NEVER TREATS JH AS HIS KID. LawyerMom is a mean person herself, deviously torturing her husband with Lapdog and no cooking. That moron Professor still expects her to cook for him and he is jealous too. LawyerMom is now showing him how much he has taken her for granted. Yeah it is mean and stupid but she is so hurt, she wants to cause him pain.
At this point, we are already sure who Chairman's daughter is... Ppl are predicting plots with HY faking to be Chairman's daughter....
So at this point we need more info on BH's past.
SR got her lipstick back but did not say a peep. At this point, we need SR to CHANGE or move to Boston forever lmao
More than anything, JM script has to improve, it is just too trashy soap. And JH actor needs to get some acting lessons asap
OMFG! Comments are out of this world. BS toilet flush KD but fanatics can't smell it cuz they got a cold from…
There are several issues here: 1. You are free to write anything you want, an independent opinion is totally fine, as long as you SAY IT POLITELY AND CONSIDERATELY. There are just certain things you cannot say. Period. 2. To avoid possible misunderstandings, you have to be careful what you write, so MAKE SURE TO BE PRECISE AND CORRECT IN YOUR WRITING. 3. To reduce the possibility of misunderstanding: use chatGPT.com for your longer posts
For example. your first reply was to *my* post about *me* - so it looked like your reply was referring to me. You are lucky I tried to clarify with you. Many other users would have replied to your post with insults.
Then your second reply says that your first reply was about something in the past and UNRELATED to me and my posts personally ....
>>>>> So be careful, if the second reply is what you meant to say, then write that as your first reply, dont make anyone confused. <<<<<<<<
Since your second reply is rather complex English sentences, ChatGPT is very useful. It adds time to your writing, but it will help you learn more English too.You have to type what you want to say into chatGPT.com, not into MDL - and then copy the chatGPT's polished version into your MDL post.
OMFG! Comments are out of this world. BS toilet flush KD but fanatics can't smell it cuz they got a cold from…
Did I understand this correctly - so you were posting harsh stuff, ppl reported you and MDL stepped in?
FYI there is free http://ChatGPT.com online, so if you type what you want to say in there, it will turn it into perfectEnglish. That is an extra step for you, so I don't know if you want to do that.
When I copied and pasted your answer into chatgpt, this is what it turned back:
============CHATGPT===== Yes, now MDL staff and a few commenters are slowly turning it into more of a learning experience, and honestly, it’s becoming more interesting and fun again.
The MDL staff came after me because they didn’t like my criticism of certain K-drama directors using repetitive “soju scripts,” terrible romantic pairings, and mediocre lead actors and actresses who simply couldn’t act.
Personally, you didn’t write BS. Generally speaking — and please don’t take this personally — a lot of the comments were BS. It wasn’t “agree to disagree.” It was more like: you better agree with me, join the bandwagon, and stop having independent opinions.
That’s when the personal insults and name-calling started showing up in the comments.
What frustrated me most was that MDL never stepped in to properly clarify anything. They responded to complaints about comments that were supposedly “too harsh” on my part, but they rarely addressed the personal insults directed at me.
Still, little by little, things are getting better. I’m hoping my friends from the States will start commenting again too. ==========================
OMFG! Comments are out of this world. BS toilet flush KD but fanatics can't smell it cuz they got a cold from…
Hm what did you mean? "Maybe now" ??? I am not sure what made you think so, but imo it was and still is ALWAYS
and what is bs, bs, bs???? Are you saying I wrote bs?
If you disagree with my opinion, i still expect you to be polite and explain your point of view in a civil way. If you personally insult me, then I will not talk with you.
Would kdrama Hee Su in Class 2 qualify for your list?
Thanks. So that's why it is interesting you didnt see all that in Hee Su drama? Yes, in one sentence, i like character development and "psychological depth" showing how the problems are worked out and overcome. I like TRANSFORMATION INTO THE LIGHT :) I want to see "resurrection from the cross". So you have to start with the person being on the cross and then what they did on there to transform and finally resurrect. Hwood as well as organized christianity focus solely on being nailed on the cross. Nobody talks about HOW from there you go into resurrection. I like kdramas bc they typically show the process to "resurrection" aka transformation and the final positive "turning into light" aka significant and positive personal and inter-relational and community transformation. It is a very Buddhist approach :) and the approach to all good storytelling. And the approach that leads to a very aware society so ... it is usually destroyed, as imo is happening right now, turning karts into kollywood.
Would kdrama Hee Su in Class 2 qualify for your list?
Well maybe I overstated it. I thought it was fresh, clean, and honest. For a high school drama, it is great. it is honest and realistic, it was a drama about RELATIONSHIPS - in general and then specifically with gay issues. It was about supportive families in many different forms, about supportive friends in many different forms, and about supporting love, in many different forms. I really liked the dialogues and the advice that the girl gave to others. Non-straight ppl complained the straight couple took over the drama but I thought it was great, to show how all kinds of ppl live and live together in peace. It would be so much easier if everyone was honest about their orientation and everyone lived as they wished. So I thought this drama portrayed such world relatively well and i appreciate that.
I liked the scenes of their daily lives and different kinds of families they had. I like the mixes of all kinds of diferent kinds of ppl and different types of families - where everyone can find the peace and safe heaven they need. and i like the character of their school friend who was a girl and her positive influence. A very strong young woman. It is rare to see such strong female characters in kdramas... so she was really precious. I liked how the straight guy handled it when he discovered that Hee Su was hitting on him I liked how the gay guy handled his relationship with Hee Su. He was patient and gentle and did not force anything. I liked how the closet / secret thing was handled. It wa very tactful yet it was clear the guys were hiding. I liked how Hee Su was flawed and overcame his issues I liked how the two guys started their relationship I think it was just ... natural.. to some degree. Bc ... the strange thing is that the guys werent jumping on each other. It was a little devoid of any physical atraction feelings. I chalked it on the fact they were just kids and Hee Su was very inexperienced and just came out.
Cherry Miracle is a lot more realistic but there we have one experienced adult. The other one was weird bc he seemed to be totally asexual until that point.
So ... did straight women write these scripts??? Now I am wondering...
SO I AM JUST WONDERING THEN WHAT EXACTLY I SAW!!!!! DID I SEE SOME FANTASIES WRITTEN BY STRAIGHT WOMEN??? in which case, i would feel really cheated.
So tell me - are these dramas fake?
After watching a bit of other BL dramas, I dropped them bc they were a lot more aggressive and rather promiscuous imo and I did not see much emotional work in there.
ML is really a space cadet so he isnt funny to me, he looks mentally off and even ill... The mystery screen is also .. a schicophenic detail ....
Aaah I see, he is ML from Weak Hero ... where he was (not) acting in this same way.... well hopefully his acting abilities are more than just a spaced out mentally off kid...
Luckily the soldiers are funny... That battle with the food machine guns was hilarious lmao
I had to search online what 'system genre" is, so I am writing this post from what I learned today - system…
all stuff i mentioned is about "Big Brother" big machine that eats small ppl. it doesnt have to be just one robot who does it, you can look at the elites as one "robot" that rules others
I had to search online what 'system genre" is, so I am writing this post from what I learned today - system…
I think you should not be this lazy and you should describe what exactly you meant and what the context is :) and all stuff i mentioned is about "Big Brother" big machine that eats small ppl. it doesnt have to be just one robot who does it, you can look at the elites as one "robot" that rules others
Yes, Hye Jin is coolly evil, eg she intends evil upon HDM at the end of Ep 8. IOW, she intends to produce HDM's…
Adjuma called DM back to Agit as soon as he found the friend. Script can be fixed. The filming does not start in 1 hr :)
Adjuma is just kicking DM into high gear, forcing him to start paddling hard. She is tired of him just siting in the canoe and criticizing how others are paddling. SHE WANTS HIM TO PADDLE TOO OR DISAPPEAR so she just put a gun to his head and said PADDLE!!!! OR DIE!!!! and that is really the only way to get him to do it lmao He has become waaaay too lazy
Yeah she is too protective of her husband and that makes the hubby even weaker lmao
In summary: You are totally missing the point. There is someone else who also replied to this post so I just explained it to them. Please read that response above.
Would kdrama Hee Su in Class 2 qualify for your list?
it was. But there was not even a kiss in there and there were straight friends of both. So ppl complained the drama was boring I think it is a masterpiece
So I noticed I watch other stuff differently now, my eyes / ears are "sharper". The trashy script or poor acting that annoyed me before is now right into my face and undeniable.... and it is clear, I shouldnt waste time with it.
As an adult, he has to be grounded in himself to not be influenced to do stupid things when the environment is problematic. Only then can he work with 200-500 ppl on a movie set.
He needs to learn to stay calm and to solve problems regardless of others.
And if the environment is too harmful and not improving after asking to do so, to leave.
I hope it improves asap.
JH is shown as an obsessed dangerous person, concocting very elaborate and devious plans to hurt JM and BH, and SUCCEEDING in carrying his plans. AT THIS POINT, JH IS A PSYCHOTIC CRIMINAL, and it will get worse. He really needs to go to a psych hospital asap, he needs HELP before he kills or permanently harms someone and/or himself.
JM and BH are too dumb to help JH stay sane, Chairman is too greedy to help him, and hopefully HY will help him out of her greed and check him to a psych ward asap. The situation is just getting out of control and he could really really really really cause SERIOUS damages and PERMANENTLY flip into a monster. It is pathetic how delusional he is. He *can* come back but he needs help asap, or else who knows what will happen.
But JH actor needs to be able to carry that role. He is too... flat. He really has no talent for acting. This is already ep 103... he should have improved significantly by now. He is good only for tiny insignificant roles.
JM actress also didnt impress me at all with kidnapping scenes. She doesnt seem to act well anything related to being poor, dumb, abused, etc.
Also, she is totally cold to BH. No chemistry whatseover from her. BH actor is marvelously acting it
=====================
So JH is the son of Lapdog and HY, born when HY was a poor and unknown actress. So he is about 5-7 yrs older than SR/JM? He was already a little adopted boy who was getting free food from his neighbor SH when she was having SR/JM and helping in the T. villa. We dont know if SH was only pregnant or already gave birth when she was giving food to JH...
AND JH GAVE HY's HAIRPIN TO SH, out of gratitude for his warm meals. SO JH HAS LOVE AND GRATITUDE IN HIM.
Did HY know that JH was living next to T. villa???
Later, JH got leukemia. How old was JH when he got leukemia? that's how much older he is than SR/JM. As soon as he got it, his adopted parents dumped him.
Was JH still living next to T. villa when HY was stealing the twins... ? JH might have seen something...
Seems like JH is being set up to be forgiven so that he can marry SR - bc JH and SH have a beautiful bond from that T. villa. Esp if JH saw something at T. villa and will testify.
So at this point we need more info on HY's past and how Lapdog fits. HY and Lapdog grew up in the same orphanage, says Lawyer Mom report. How did HY hide pregnancy and birth from Lapdog for 7-8 months?
Lawyer Mom is correct, one side of Lapdog is a very nice man. Soooo nice that he will commit murder to help his loved one HY - and nothing but her interests him. NOTICE THAT LAPDOG NEVER TREATS JH AS HIS KID. LawyerMom is a mean person herself, deviously torturing her husband with Lapdog and no cooking. That moron Professor still expects her to cook for him and he is jealous too. LawyerMom is now showing him how much he has taken her for granted. Yeah it is mean and stupid but she is so hurt, she wants to cause him pain.
At this point, we are already sure who Chairman's daughter is... Ppl are predicting plots with HY faking to be Chairman's daughter....
So at this point we need more info on BH's past.
SR got her lipstick back but did not say a peep. At this point, we need SR to CHANGE or move to Boston forever lmao
More than anything, JM script has to improve, it is just too trashy soap.
And JH actor needs to get some acting lessons asap
1. You are free to write anything you want, an independent opinion is totally fine, as long as you SAY IT POLITELY AND CONSIDERATELY. There are just certain things you cannot say. Period.
2. To avoid possible misunderstandings, you have to be careful what you write, so MAKE SURE TO BE PRECISE AND CORRECT IN YOUR WRITING.
3. To reduce the possibility of misunderstanding: use chatGPT.com for your longer posts
For example. your first reply was to *my* post about *me* - so it looked like your reply was referring to me.
You are lucky I tried to clarify with you. Many other users would have replied to your post with insults.
Then your second reply says that your first reply was about something in the past and UNRELATED to me and my posts personally ....
>>>>> So be careful, if the second reply is what you meant to say, then write that as your first reply, dont make anyone confused. <<<<<<<<
Since your second reply is rather complex English sentences, ChatGPT is very useful. It adds time to your writing, but it will help you learn more English too.You have to type what you want to say into chatGPT.com, not into MDL - and then copy the chatGPT's polished version into your MDL post.
FYI there is free http://ChatGPT.com online, so if you type what you want to say in there, it will turn it into perfectEnglish. That is an extra step for you, so I don't know if you want to do that.
When I copied and pasted your answer into chatgpt, this is what it turned back:
============CHATGPT=====
Yes, now MDL staff and a few commenters are slowly turning it into more of a learning experience, and honestly, it’s becoming more interesting and fun again.
The MDL staff came after me because they didn’t like my criticism of certain K-drama directors using repetitive “soju scripts,” terrible romantic pairings, and mediocre lead actors and actresses who simply couldn’t act.
Personally, you didn’t write BS. Generally speaking — and please don’t take this personally — a lot of the comments were BS. It wasn’t “agree to disagree.” It was more like: you better agree with me, join the bandwagon, and stop having independent opinions.
That’s when the personal insults and name-calling started showing up in the comments.
What frustrated me most was that MDL never stepped in to properly clarify anything. They responded to complaints about comments that were supposedly “too harsh” on my part, but they rarely addressed the personal insults directed at me.
Still, little by little, things are getting better. I’m hoping my friends from the States will start commenting again too.
==========================
"Maybe now" ??? I am not sure what made you think so, but imo it was and still is ALWAYS
and what is bs, bs, bs???? Are you saying I wrote bs?
If you disagree with my opinion, i still expect you to be polite and explain your point of view in a civil way.
If you personally insult me, then I will not talk with you.
So that's why it is interesting you didnt see all that in Hee Su drama?
Yes, in one sentence, i like character development and "psychological depth" showing how the problems are worked out and overcome. I like TRANSFORMATION INTO THE LIGHT :) I want to see "resurrection from the cross". So you have to start with the person being on the cross and then what they did on there to transform and finally resurrect.
Hwood as well as organized christianity focus solely on being nailed on the cross. Nobody talks about HOW from there you go into resurrection.
I like kdramas bc they typically show the process to "resurrection" aka transformation and the final positive "turning into light" aka significant and positive personal and inter-relational and community transformation. It is a very Buddhist approach :) and the approach to all good storytelling. And the approach that leads to a very aware society so ... it is usually destroyed, as imo is happening right now, turning karts into kollywood.
Sorry i wasted my time on your ... con job. Posing as if you knew what you were talking about. FAREWELL. .
it is honest and realistic, it was a drama about RELATIONSHIPS - in general and then specifically with gay issues. It was about supportive families in many different forms, about supportive friends in many different forms, and about supporting love, in many different forms.
I really liked the dialogues and the advice that the girl gave to others.
Non-straight ppl complained the straight couple took over the drama but I thought it was great, to show how all kinds of ppl live and live together in peace. It would be so much easier if everyone was honest about their orientation and everyone lived as they wished. So I thought this drama portrayed such world relatively well and i appreciate that.
I liked the scenes of their daily lives and different kinds of families they had. I like the mixes of all kinds of diferent kinds of ppl and different types of families - where everyone can find the peace and safe heaven they need.
and i like the character of their school friend who was a girl and her positive influence. A very strong young woman. It is rare to see such strong female characters in kdramas... so she was really precious.
I liked how the straight guy handled it when he discovered that Hee Su was hitting on him
I liked how the gay guy handled his relationship with Hee Su. He was patient and gentle and did not force anything.
I liked how the closet / secret thing was handled. It wa very tactful yet it was clear the guys were hiding.
I liked how Hee Su was flawed and overcame his issues
I liked how the two guys started their relationship
I think it was just ... natural..
to some degree. Bc ... the strange thing is that the guys werent jumping on each other. It was a little devoid of any physical atraction feelings. I chalked it on the fact they were just kids and Hee Su was very inexperienced and just came out.
Cherry Miracle is a lot more realistic but there we have one experienced adult. The other one was weird bc he seemed to be totally asexual until that point.
So ... did straight women write these scripts??? Now I am wondering...
SO I AM JUST WONDERING THEN WHAT EXACTLY I SAW!!!!! DID I SEE SOME FANTASIES WRITTEN BY STRAIGHT WOMEN??? in which case, i would feel really cheated.
So tell me - are these dramas fake?
After watching a bit of other BL dramas, I dropped them bc they were a lot more aggressive and rather promiscuous imo and I did not see much emotional work in there.
also, what made you like BL dramas you mentioned?
The mystery screen is also .. a schicophenic detail ....
Aaah I see, he is ML from Weak Hero ... where he was (not) acting in this same way.... well hopefully his acting abilities are more than just a spaced out mentally off kid...
Luckily the soldiers are funny... That battle with the food machine guns was hilarious lmao
and I too didnt watch today's episode :)
it doesnt have to be just one robot who does it, you can look at the elites as one "robot" that rules others
Anyways, this is a big topic obviously
and all stuff i mentioned is about "Big Brother" big machine that eats small ppl.
it doesnt have to be just one robot who does it, you can look at the elites as one "robot" that rules others
Script can be fixed. The filming does not start in 1 hr :)
Adjuma is just kicking DM into high gear, forcing him to start paddling hard. She is tired of him just siting in the canoe and criticizing how others are paddling. SHE WANTS HIM TO PADDLE TOO OR DISAPPEAR so she just put a gun to his head and said PADDLE!!!! OR DIE!!!! and that is really the only way to get him to do it lmao He has become waaaay too lazy
Yeah she is too protective of her husband and that makes the hubby even weaker lmao
In summary: You are totally missing the point. There is someone else who also replied to this post so I just explained it to them. Please read that response above.
But there was not even a kiss in there and there were straight friends of both. So ppl complained the drama was boring
I think it is a masterpiece