heh, yeah i think TM could be the illegitimate child, aka born out of wedlock which would have been still a huge…
Yesterday, I went back and re-watched the scene at the art gallery - and it was truly a nice scene between the two men - one of the few times the director-nim allowed Tae Min to smile.
TM: If I hadn't been born into Taesan Group, I might have become an artist like your mother. TH: That's why Mom liked you a lot. She almost made me jealous. TM: I'll always be thankful for that. . . . I apologize for not treating you better when you returned. Let's try to get along.
So, yes - it's clear that TH's' mother was nice, perhaps even affectionate, towards TM. And perhaps was meant to be a major clue. But a revelation now that she was his birth-mother? Standing by for 35+ years while Dragon Mom raised him? That seems too much - even for a kdrama.
I also hope we get a good believable explanation, especially if it was his own bio father that abused him. Perhaps that's why granny sent Tae Ho away (5th grade) - she didn't want him abused as well - nothing else makes sense.
heh, yeah i think TM could be the illegitimate child, aka born out of wedlock which would have been still a huge…
Well, you miss my point - there's no reason to believe that Seo Min Jeong was around in 1983. If Seo Min Jeong was the unwed mother (and apparently she was acceptable to the family), the logical thing to do would be a shot gun wedding.
The date for when the Art Gallery was established is very big and obvious. It's after TM's birth and before TH's birth. There is a reason why that date is there - it wasn't pulled out of thin air and one way or another it is part of the timeline.
I don't think Seo Min Jeong is TM's bio mother - but of course could be wrong😊😊.
In the last few months, he has been involved in the daily soap opera "Elegant Empire", but the last episode was a couple of weeks ago. Not sure when he will appear or how his character will impact the story(ies) of the Lee Family. If I was the writer (but I am not) I would have him return and discover that each member of the family has learned to "live their own life" independently and without him. It will be interesting to see how that particular plot resolves itself.
Ok, I haven't been here in the comments for a while now, I usually watch the episodes late at night and go to…
I think there are many more reveals to come and if I was a gambler, I would bet that they are half brothers. But who is his mom and who is his father? That's still to come.
And why did Grandmother sent Tae Ho off to the United States? Why was she overly protective of Tae Ho? Maybe we will get more info when their little chat continues next week.
The actor that portrays Tae Min was born in 1981, but Tae Min (the character) is 40 years old. (planning his "40th" birthday party; making him vice-chairman when he is "40").
Re: Tae Ho's age, from Ep. 3: "TH's father became vice-chair when he was only a few years older than TH's age. He saw his father become vice-chair in his late '30s." TH appears to be 36-37.
I think the grandmother told TM that TH was his younger brother… I’m 99% sure…
I was reading the Kocowa subs - and KBS is a part owner of Kocowa. They usually translate in a way that "sounds" best to the USA viewer. For instance, someone in the US is more likely to say "He's your little brother" than "He's your younger brother." Well, at least that's my take on it. 😊
Ko Joo Won posted photos on Instagram showing a visit to TM Aunt's art museum/gallery – gazing at artwork that originally came from actor Lee Kwang Gi’s(Yeom) art gallery. For those who aren’t aware, Lee Kwang Gi’s main profession is “art gallery owner” – Gallery KKI. Acting seems to be a side gig.😊
Anyway, Kwang-gi commented: “Oh what a pic ... Vice President” Joo-won responded: “Thank you, senior~^^ The place was a big help!! 🤟” (Vulcan hand signal – I had to look it up). Hmmmm. . . .now how did that visit help TM???
Not to be outdone, Im Ju Eun (Su-kyung) commented: “It's a very desirable update lol Head of HQ Kang Tae-min”. Joo-won: “Please come back” and she responded: “Oh my. Can’t help it if you talk like that. . .(. . 😉) [wink]". I know she will return, but suspect it will be a gun or knife or some attack on Hyo Shim, boring, stupid, boring. 🤣
I was very disappointed with TM when he met grandma and had a conversation with her. His blind faith that he should…
Haha, I've been gone all day and altho I was able to rush through the raw version early this morning, I was only able to watch the first few minutes w/subtitles of TM and Granny before I needed to leave. So, i'm not sure what was said or done later on in the episode but the main point I got out of their conversation is confirmation that Grandmother trusts Tae Min - not Tae Ho - to protect Taesan Group. 🥰🥰🥰
Sub or no sub, your summary matches my understanding of what was happening with the other couples - which I suppose is a good indication that the director is doing a good job of bringing out the characters and their stories - words weren't required.
Finally watched last night and understand the low MDL rating. Tt was BAD - really bad - in terms of cheesy, mundane dialogue. No sparkle or wit thus far. Even a birth secret telegraphed from the very beginning. A truly awful potential suicide scene that was. . . . mundane and pointless.
I'll continue watching a few more episodes because of Kang Ki Young. His scripted words may be bland, but he's a great actor and his scenes were enjoyable. Meanwhile, another favorite Seo Hye Won, who played memorable characters in "Alchemy of Souls" and "Business Proposal", was absolutely wasted by both the script and director. Lee Ji Ah looked like she was sleepwalking through most of it - why is she considered a "star"??
The teasers (and even the intro) promise a quirky, bad-ass team of hi-jinks but thus far it's hasn't delivered. If it continues on this dark path, I'll be dropping which saddens me because it's been on Watchlist ever since I read that KKY would be the ML. 🙁🙁
Taemin might not have done bad things himself but standing with and choosing to protect bad people makes you their…
Meanwhile, Go Joo Won looks mighty smexy in those suits. 🤩
However, unlike previous dreamy Instagram photos , today he posted photos with his dog CoCo. Very charming and cute. Ha Jun and Im Ju Eun (Su-kyung) both commented - it's nice they all get along with each other. 😊
2. Park Hyung Joon (https://mydramalist.com/people/3285-park-hyung-joon) the actor originally hired to play Tae Ho’s father (Kang Jun Beom) finally appeared – in a photo when TH and HS visited the art museum. I don't know if he will ever actually show up on screen.
3. Ratings are holding steady
Episode 36 ]Saturday]: 18.6% (I believe that it the highest for a Saturday episode?) Episode 37 [Sunday]: 20.8% (previous Sunday was 21.4 – a record high for the drama
Oh, For GAWD’s sake 😫😫😫 how many times do I need to ask this question?Why does Tae Min require redemption?…
Hmmm. . . .he discovered that his mother imprisoned his grandmother. From my memory, that's the only "wrongdoing" he is aware of and it was after the fact at a point when there was nothing he could do about it - and he re-started his efforts to discover her whereabouts.
And why is Tae Min the bad guy when granny CHOSE to stay hidden? Not only after she escaped but also after she was pronounced dead. I mean, Hell's Bells, if she had appeared at that point - OR if she had arisen from the grave - all of these problems/conflicts would disappear. So if you want to blame anyone for the current contretemps, blame ole granny. I'm being facetious of course because after all, this is a 50 episode family drama and those cliffhangers are critical to good ratings, lol. But don't blame TM for granny's choices.
And TM harbored "ill will against TH? I've always used the term "resentment" and it relates to BOTH cousins. For instance:
TH: ".I’ve been compared to him my whole life." TH: "When I was little, my tutors always wanted to teach Tea Min, not me" TH": "I can't be half the man as Tae Min".
They are both flawed characters. Neither one is "better" than the other.
Oh, For GAWD’s sake 😫😫😫 how many times do I need to ask this question?Why does Tae Min require redemption?…
"Why is it okay for TM to be doing all the things he's done in order to protect his (alive) parents but TH trying to discover what happened to his (deceased) parents isn't?. . . .If TM can be viewed as a "devoted son" for his actions why not TH? "
Hmmmmm. . . . .this isn't either/or. In my long rant, I think I made the same point. Both men are equally devoted to their parents. TM gave Dragon Mom an opportunity to reverse course. TH still believes that his parents are "saints" (and apparently his mother was), but he refused to accept TM's claims that TH's father abused him physically and verbally.
If the writer doesn't re-write the facts surrounding the accident, then Tae Ho will discover that the Chairman wasn't at fault. Will he regret his revenge rampage when he finds out who was culpable? (again - assuming writer hasn't re-written the original story).
TM: If I hadn't been born into Taesan Group, I might have become an artist like your mother.
TH: That's why Mom liked you a lot. She almost made me jealous.
TM: I'll always be thankful for that. . . . I apologize for not treating you better when you returned. Let's try to get along.
So, yes - it's clear that TH's' mother was nice, perhaps even affectionate, towards TM. And perhaps was meant to be a major clue. But a revelation now that she was his birth-mother? Standing by for 35+ years while Dragon Mom raised him? That seems too much - even for a kdrama.
I also hope we get a good believable explanation, especially if it was his own bio father that abused him. Perhaps that's why granny sent Tae Ho away (5th grade) - she didn't want him abused as well - nothing else makes sense.
The date for when the Art Gallery was established is very big and obvious. It's after TM's birth and before TH's birth. There is a reason why that date is there - it wasn't pulled out of thin air and one way or another it is part of the timeline.
I don't think Seo Min Jeong is TM's bio mother - but of course could be wrong😊😊.
1983: Tae Min born (he supposedly turned 40 last year)
1985: The Art Gallery was established (Ep. 32, Mark 46) and Seo Min Jeong (TH's mom) was the first Director.
Lol, I know what I am thinking if Kang Jun Bum wasn't married in 1983. 😉
In the last few months, he has been involved in the daily soap opera "Elegant Empire", but the last episode was a couple of weeks ago. Not sure when he will appear or how his character will impact the story(ies) of the Lee Family. If I was the writer (but I am not) I would have him return and discover that each member of the family has learned to "live their own life" independently and without him. It will be interesting to see how that particular plot resolves itself.
Episode 38 (prior cliffhanger: Tae Min and Grandmother meet face-to-face on the roof) Ratings hit a record 20.6 (highest for a Saturday episode)
Episode 39 (prior cliffhanger: Grandmama and Kang Jin Bum meet-up) Ratings hit another record of 22.1 (prior high was 21.4)
I'm thinking the Kang family trauma starts to sort out within a few (5-6) episodes and then - BAM, Papa Lee shows up.
And why did Grandmother sent Tae Ho off to the United States? Why was she overly protective of Tae Ho? Maybe we will get more info when their little chat continues next week.
Re: Tae Ho's age, from Ep. 3: "TH's father became vice-chair when he was only a few years older than TH's age. He saw his father become vice-chair in his late '30s." TH appears to be 36-37.
Thanks for the clarification.
The post from 2 days ago was the "smexy suits" one. 😉
Ko Joo Won posted photos on Instagram showing a visit to TM Aunt's art museum/gallery – gazing at artwork that originally came from actor Lee Kwang Gi’s(Yeom) art gallery. For those who aren’t aware, Lee Kwang Gi’s main profession is “art gallery owner” – Gallery KKI. Acting seems to be a side gig.😊
Anyway, Kwang-gi commented: “Oh what a pic ... Vice President”
Joo-won responded: “Thank you, senior~^^ The place was a big help!! 🤟” (Vulcan hand signal – I had to look it up). Hmmmm. . . .now how did that visit help TM???
Not to be outdone, Im Ju Eun (Su-kyung) commented: “It's a very desirable update lol Head of HQ Kang Tae-min”. Joo-won: “Please come back” and she responded: “Oh my. Can’t help it if you talk like that. . .(. . 😉) [wink]". I know she will return, but suspect it will be a gun or knife or some attack on Hyo Shim, boring, stupid, boring. 🤣
https://www.instagram.com/p/C233mojvMck/?img_index=1
Sub or no sub, your summary matches my understanding of what was happening with the other couples - which I suppose is a good indication that the director is doing a good job of bringing out the characters and their stories - words weren't required.
I'll continue watching a few more episodes because of Kang Ki Young. His scripted words may be bland, but he's a great actor and his scenes were enjoyable. Meanwhile, another favorite Seo Hye Won, who played memorable characters in "Alchemy of Souls" and "Business Proposal", was absolutely wasted by both the script and director. Lee Ji Ah looked like she was sleepwalking through most of it - why is she considered a "star"??
The teasers (and even the intro) promise a quirky, bad-ass team of hi-jinks but thus far it's hasn't delivered. If it continues on this dark path, I'll be dropping which saddens me because it's been on Watchlist ever since I read that KKY would be the ML. 🙁🙁
However, unlike previous dreamy Instagram photos , today he posted photos with his dog CoCo. Very charming and cute. Ha Jun and Im Ju Eun (Su-kyung) both commented - it's nice they all get along with each other. 😊
To view: https://www.instagram.com/p/C2y4-kXPQ53/?img_index=1
1. The 5th OST “I Loved You Every Day” was released on January 28th (Sunday)
http://enter.etoday.co.kr/news/view/253893
2. Park Hyung Joon (https://mydramalist.com/people/3285-park-hyung-joon) the actor originally hired to play Tae Ho’s father (Kang Jun Beom) finally appeared – in a photo when TH and HS visited the art museum. I don't know if he will ever actually show up on screen.
3. Ratings are holding steady
Episode 36 ]Saturday]: 18.6% (I believe that it the highest for a Saturday episode?)
Episode 37 [Sunday]: 20.8% (previous Sunday was 21.4 – a record high for the drama
And why is Tae Min the bad guy when granny CHOSE to stay hidden? Not only after she escaped but also after she was pronounced dead. I mean, Hell's Bells, if she had appeared at that point - OR if she had arisen from the grave - all of these problems/conflicts would disappear. So if you want to blame anyone for the current contretemps, blame ole granny. I'm being facetious of course because after all, this is a 50 episode family drama and those cliffhangers are critical to good ratings, lol. But don't blame TM for granny's choices.
And TM harbored "ill will against TH? I've always used the term "resentment" and it relates to BOTH cousins. For instance:
TH: ".I’ve been compared to him my whole life."
TH: "When I was little, my tutors always wanted to teach Tea Min, not me"
TH": "I can't be half the man as Tae Min".
They are both flawed characters. Neither one is "better" than the other.
In my very humble opinion, of course. 😀😀
Hmmmmm. . . . .this isn't either/or. In my long rant, I think I made the same point. Both men are equally devoted to their parents. TM gave Dragon Mom an opportunity to reverse course. TH still believes that his parents are "saints" (and apparently his mother was), but he refused to accept TM's claims that TH's father abused him physically and verbally.
If the writer doesn't re-write the facts surrounding the accident, then Tae Ho will discover that the Chairman wasn't at fault. Will he regret his revenge rampage when he finds out who was culpable? (again - assuming writer hasn't re-written the original story).