Knavery

Probably the best one I've seen of this type of drama. The leads were amazing. I think it's a few episodes too long at 30 so the plot gets a little wonky at times but that's pretty much my only complaint. Rainie Yang was great. The male lead figured out what he wanted remarkably quickly and did everything in his power to get it. He wasn't constantly attacking her with insults while trying to figure out his emotions. Good chemistry.

I worry about the accent and acting in another language. It's tough to do but maybe she can pull it off. Good luck to her.

No worries, write about who you like. I had honestly never clicked on the "Stalker's Guide To" because I thought it would be more along the lines of "here's his Instagram!" and stuff like that. Kind of like an open love letter or a fan thread.

Kyung Soo Jin made me a fan of hers in this drama but I tend to agree with others that the way they treated multiple personality disorder and Clara Lee's character was sad. It's mindless fun. I didn't hate it but I can't say I'm a fan of the show.

So this is what a Stalker's Guide is. I never really clicked because they were all men.

A large group on here seems to prefer dramas that are very innocent and K-Dramas are usually pretty innocent. That's not a criticism of them but it needs to be said.

I agree that it doesn't bother me and it's pretty mild...

I think the way I looked at the male lead is - while he was terrifying, at least his "reason" was better than most other male leads in Thai dramas which usually boils down to: "I had my heart broken a few years ago that's why I treat you like a slave" or "I overheard something that made me think you might be a gold digger or bad person so I'm going to assume I'm right and treat you like a slave".
In this case he heard the lead woman's voice on the cellphone of her fiance who was dead/dying. While we know there's more to the story - he thinks she's escaping justice.

It's been a while but I think while he was terrifying it was mostly verbal right? And she obviously wasn't living with him.

Kleun Cheewit was actually pretty progressive all things considered. The bad guy was a rapist who drugged unsuspecting women including the hero, his own step-daughter. There was never a minute of "oh he's actually good" or "oh he's redeemable".

There was also a 'rape scene' between the two leads. But for several hours of episodes before the scene, it was made clear they both had feelings for each other, he tried to back out of blackmail scheme and she pushed him on it. Then they both struggled with the aftermath of what they had done. It wasn't pretty or glossed over. I think I remember her crying in the shower for sure. I forget what his reaction was. They both regretted going through with it.

I know for a lot of people and users here it might be too much but we're talking relative to other Thai shows...

The family always hates the girl if she's not rich/high-class

It may fall under gender bender but it's funny when the girl catches the falling guy or grabs his wrist. It makes me laugh and cheer for them to end up together.

Well it was alright. I like Park Han Byul and the lead guy is alright too.

The allergy he had only showed up when it was convenient and it was more noticeable in this season. I thought the story was much weaker in the second half and the last episode felt rushed - trying to wrap it up and put a bow on all the problems they created to stall for time.

The leads were still cute to me so I enjoyed them. I kind of wish the secretary would have had more of a role in the ending.

I see season 3 listed on here but is that true and actually happening? They seemed to wrap things up at the end of this season so I'm not too sure.

The second one sounds interesting to me.

I dropped it at 5. I just can't seem to deal with the medical and professional inaccuracies of modern medical dramas. Combine that with this weird relationship of a surgeon-turned teacher and his former highschool student... it's weird and not in a good way for me. If it was Ji Hong and In Joo then maybe I could have stomached the god-level surgeon BS but it's not. I'm sure many people enjoyed it but like I said... medical dramas are tough for me and when the story surrounding it isn't appealing to me, I'm out.

Damn this was good. I avoid this genre but I'm glad I gave this one a chance. Wow.

It's produced by a Canadian company with funding from BBC America (Canadians & Americans) and Bell Media (Canadians). BBC America does not get funding from the UK and relies on advertising and subscriptions (it's in my package).

I don't see the big deal. I'm Canadian and describing the show as American is fine with me. It airs on American television and the producer of the show sold it to a network based in America.

I think he's in the Fox Tribe realm with relatives - Bai Qian's brothers so Ye Hua and Bai Qian can have some alone time. Or he's with royal handlers who are getting him to study and practice.... he's the royal great grandson and potentially a future emperor himself.

It's hard to do because the more you reveal the more it legitimately spoils the plot.

There are tribes of 'immortals' (they live a really long time and are hard to kill). The three main ones for the show are: Fox Tribe, Celestial/Heavenly Tribe, Ghost/Demonic Tribe. Fox Tribe is kind of more playful and easy-going. Heavenly Tribe is more strict and the most powerful. Ghost Tribe is basically the 'bad guys'.

At the heads of these tribes are kind of a royalty. So a Fox King, a Heavenly Emperor and a Ghost King. And they're all old with adult children.

Fox King has a daughter (Bai Qian) and a granddaughter (Feng Jiu). So they're obviously Aunt-Niece.

Heavenly Emperor had sons - one was Mo Yuan the god of war. He also has a grandson by another son - Ye Hua who looks identical to Mo Yuan.

There are powerful beings in Heavenly Tribe - some of whom you could argue are nearly as powerful as the Emperor and are older than him.
Dong Hua for instance - if I remember right he's older than the Emperor or at least as old??? Been a while, sorry.

*** But here are the huge spoilers for the main couple ***

How specific do you want me to get?

He is arranged to marry her but never meets her. Before he can meet her - she decides to try to rescue her teacher (Mo Yuan) and is rewarded with losing her memories and becoming mortal.

Ye Hua is set on a mission to destroy a powerful Ghost Tribe soldier. It's a tough fight, he gets injured and has to use his godly dragon form. So he shrinks back down to a small snake-sized dragon and hides in a cave to recuperate after winning the fight.

This is where Su Su (mortal Bai Qian) finds him, mistakes him for a snake and takes care of him. For probably the first time in his life he's really powerless and at the mercy of another. He can only watch and he falls in love with her.

He saves her from a mob who do not like snakes and attack her because of it. He reveals himself as a huge dragon god again to protect her.

He comes to her in human form. She falls for him, they marry. She gets pregnant and discovered by Heavenly Tribe who are not happy about their golden son falling for a mortal and having an informal wedding ceremony alone together. She is brought to the Heavenly Tribe world. She gives birth. She is killed (not officially by the tribe).

With her death she becomes Bai Qian again without memories of her time as a mortal. The engagement is still kind of on - especially now that Fox Tribe knows she's still alive.

Ye Hua and his son mistake her for Su Su immediately when they meet her.

He tries to woo her over because he likes her. At times she has doubts "does he like me because I look like Su Su?".

It works, they fall in love.

Ye Hua figures out Mo Yuan's body is preserved and hidden by Bai Qian and doubts if Bai Qian loves him or her teacher so at great personal cost - he helps bring Mo Yuan back into her life. She eventually gets her Su Su memories back. She remembers how she was treated by Heavenly Tribe, she remembers how she was ignored by Ye Hua.

I won't spoil beyond that. Because then we're getting into how the show itself ends. Do they end up together or no?

The story was unbelievable in a bad way. There's too much stuff that doesn't make sense. The characters are naive when it's convenient to stall the storyline and perceptive when it's convenient to move forward and onto the next part of the story. A lot of flashbacks to stall things too.

The main couple was cute at first but after a while started to bore me so I started to enjoy the secondary couple. Eventually I got a little tired of them too but I was near the end so decided to finish it anyway.

The sound quality of the dubbing broke down for a few seconds in some of the episodes. A group would be talking outside for example and suddenly you would hear echoing. A character would be talking and their volume or the tone of their voice would change. There at least 3-4 instances like this that I can clearly remember.

Finally - while there is a lot of eye candy for the people out there attracted to men, I was disappointed that none of the women were ever shown in a swimsuit from what I can remember.

It's not a bad drama but I'm not sure it deserves all the praise it's getting here.

No need to apologize. I just want to see dubbing go. It still doesn't perfectly match the lips and sometimes you get really poor audio. Something like My Mr. Mermaid comes to mind. You get brief periods where they're talking outside but they might as well be in an echo chamber. Or there might be a brief moment where the pitch on the voice changes dramatically because something went wrong when dubbing.

I would prefer an all-Chinese cast or at the very least if you cast a Korean - have them be somewhat fluent/intelligible but it's a struggle for me to deal with dubbing even when it's Chinese people speaking Mandarin.

I understand it's a complicated language with dialects but that's why you don't see people from the Shetland Islands getting cast in United Kingdom productions without them changing their accents and avoiding words that are only really used in their region. They 'lighten' their accent to a more mainstream British English or American English.

Several years ago I traveled to where my family descends from and they had a whole bunch of words that I did not understand. I have spoken English my whole life and I had to ask them what their words meant. "When you say this, what do you mean?"