I only watched two episodes so far and well, the only reason I'm still watching is because I like the two lead…
Ikr! These actors would make a dope couple and they are both fitting for dark action plots. But sadly the plot here isn't well written. Also bromance with BL hints? So kind of like The Untamed and Word of Honor lmao
Glad to know that I'm not the only one who feels this series has lot his sparkle. It started good and promising,…
I only watched two episodes so far and well, the only reason I'm still watching is because I like the two lead actors and I watched some of their previous dramas/movies which I liked a lot. Though, I'm already getting bored at this point honestly. I don't care about the whole older sister/senior thing at all. When I read the synopsis I thought the drama would be really cool with the yakuza x cop concept, but even historical dramas that are mostly revolved around politics which I don't like that much to begin with were more fun to watch than this drama. Indeed it feels awfully slow. Also isn't this supposed to be BL not bromance?
I was waiting to see if this would be bromance or BL (and imo it doesn't need a kiss to make that distinction…
Well, they literally put LGBTQ+, Gay, Bisexual...etc tags, so I guess it will be actual BL but not too kinky. More of a shounen ai than yaoi. I'm personally okay with anything as long as it's two or more hot guys being close to each other lmao I do prefer having intimate/sex scenes and hot kisses, but I would still watch even if there are none, or it's just bromance as long as there is chemistry and it's done right.
I am quite amused how MDL has mentioned the girls roles as main .. while swordmaster is in support role
It's the Kdramas must have female leads and romance no matter how small or unnecessary they are logic. Sometimes the female leads don't even deserve to be called main characters since they barely do anything to begin with, yet the get included as main anyway.
Did you also notice that Lee Shi Woo has become not so good about the weather stuff and FL has? He is just a jealous…
Exactly! They ruined his character and turned him into a dumbass like the second male lead. He just got to know the FL, when did he become into her this much?! To the point where he is basically abandoning everything, including his passion to his job.
Ep 8 : 1- The FL's ex fiancé is finally getting tortured by his guilt for real I see. I like that, but I still wish he would stop being insecure about Shi Woo. Like his wife and the ML already broke up, stopped living together and barely interact, does he really need to keep whining over it and bother his wife like that? At this point he doesn't has any right to judge her, he cheated on his fiancé with her and now he is also trying to hurt his wife by being overly jealous and distrusting. This way their marriage will end up in such an ugly way. If him and FL decide to stay as friends for some reason in future episodes, that's fine as long as he doesn't keep trying to force himself on her and ruin the relationship between her and Shi Woo after all the crap he done to her. Hope he gets mature enough to let her be happy on her own. It's funny how he calls Shi Woo a womanizers when he himself is a cheater...
2- Not gonna lie, I'm starting to really like glasses dude (Can't remember his name) and the kinda older woman working with them. They are basically the only truly mature characters in the whole show. They deserve more screen time. I also like how they both have strong personalities and don't hesitate to be honest even if it makes them savage literally at times.
3- Why are everyone getting jealous over everyone? I mean at least the main leads let out all negative thoughts instantly by arguing and discussing as soon as they meet, instead of just keeping it inside till it turns into a bomb, I know they want to make the story more dramatic by adding angst or whatever, but seriously I wish they will stop it already. Instead of making them fight or be insecure around each other all the time, wish they would give them more sweet moments and let them get closer and improve their chemistry. I still can't 100% feel the spark. Four main leads all work in same building so of course they all gonna keep meeting and interacting almost daily, if they throw a tantrum every time they are together they all will never be happy and the plot will become awfully repetitive.
I hope they won't make them break up when others find out about their relationship or something of the sort after all this. I also don't see why it's a big deal for lovers to live together, they were dating back then. Why it's such a shame that the wife wants to hide it so much?! I liked when Shi Woo ignored his ex gf questions. She indeed doesn't have the right to ask him about his new gf. Her and her husband were cheaters then they get upset over their exes dating. I don't understand what's going on with everyone mindset. If the second lead is that upset about his wife living with Shi Woo in past, then why he didn't also scold her for not being a virgin when being with him as well? (Sarcasm here).
4- They actually ended up fighting like thugs in workplace front of others...really? Really? How much more childish are their action gonna get?! They were wrong for letting their emotions make them fight like that, it was quite the retarded scene. It's mostly second lead male's fault since he punched the ML first, I get the ML would want to defend himself in response, but was it supposed to be funny? Personally it wasn't for me. At this rate they are gonna become even more immature than 10 years old kids. Instead of growing they are going backward. I totally felt the frustration and disappointment of their chief when he scolded them. They could get fired for it. Glad at least FL defended Shi Woo, Their scene at that restaurant was cute, not gonna lie. Now if she just become more confident in herself and her relationship with the ML, throw her past relationship away and focus on her job and being happy. her character will be way better. That's her real issue.
(Just a reminder here for anyone who reads my comments. If you find them awfully negative or whatever like many claim, I just want to let you know. It's my opinion and I have the right to be honest and criticize any show here even if I sound harsh. I won't lie or say only good stuff to please others when I don't mean them in first place. If you like this drama then that's fine by me. I don't share my opinions to personally insult the other watchers or judge them for liking the show. If you love the drama then go ahead watch it, recommend it, or do what you want that's your right like all users of this website. I also hope others don't attack me personally, say rude stuff, or tell me to stop watching just cause they happen to disagree. If you want to have a respectful discussion and share your point of view, even if it does differ from mine then I'm more than okay with that. If you feel my comments aren't good then just leave me alone and ignore my comments completely, to not waste your time nor mine on unnecessary fight that won't do any of us benefit and in future don't click on my spoiler tagged comments to save yourself the pain. Please don't spread hatred and hurtful words over a drama).
Dang! Can you please tell me in which episode will that sex scene happen so I can skip it? I want to watch this…
Oh, thanks for the compliment! If my words made you smile somehow then that's a big win for me. Also I'm glad that you just want to discuss and not literally fight like some people do here. It's cool, I also love sharing the opinions of mine and other people. I really don't mind you disagreeing with me, just like you said everyone has their own taste.
You're pathetic. Stop trolling you loser. Go watch your piece of crap that is Semantic Error and get the hell…
That happened to me before and I also got lazy to write the comment again lol It's cool take your time. I will always be glad to read your opinions and discuss them with you. Take care and I hope you have a nice day. See you! :)
I said the exact same things you said and did also mention that I loved Semantic Error meanwhile I don't like…
I also only comment here and on You Tube at times. I really love MDL and it's quite a helpful website. But the amount of creepy people everywhere is alarming lmao Though at times it can be interesting to see their comments because just like you said, you learn a lot about the world and others mindsets by doing so.
Dang! Can you please tell me in which episode will that sex scene happen so I can skip it? I want to watch this…
Oh, that's interesting! I know lmao cause I watched movies and read manga which have truly vulgar, detailed, and kinky sex scenes and enjoyed them cause they made sense plot-wise and had something to do with characters motives and feelings.
In this drama we aren't talking about how vulgar or realistic the sex scenes is though. We are talking about how pointless it was in the plot. I feel uncomfortable when they are out of the blue and don't serve anything. Like they just exist for pure fan service or just because. Like watching a serial killer story and then they show two animals fucking on street in the middle of it as if it's supposed to make sense.
You're pathetic. Stop trolling you loser. Go watch your piece of crap that is Semantic Error and get the hell…
Yes, I also judge straight dramas but since you were talking about BL and these things happen more in BLs I talked about BLs mostly.
Yeah I get what you mean, I also liked some dramas where the main leads (Or my favorite characters were considered bad or criminals, but I still rooted for them and wanted them to be happy like Hello Monster, The Devil Judge, Boys Over Flowers, Vincenzo, Mouse, Beyond Evil...etc). I highly like plots revolved around revenge, psychopaths, and similar concepts. In Effect the rapist didn't really get punished, the victim just told him to leave him alone and that was about it, he never got jailed or anything.
I didn't say people are gonna go around raping people after watching rape scenes. What I meant is that sometimes some really non healthy behavior might be viewed as something romantic by watchers cause they keep being used in dramas. Like in straight dramas when female characters beat the crap out of, slap, and kick the male leads whenever they are upset about the stupidest reasons. When Male leads grab the female lead and drag her somewhere by force, yell at her, and try to boss her around in name of being in love with her...etc In BLs when the top/seme force himself on the bottom/uke and do sexual stuff while he isn't conscious for example. The people who make these dramas themselves admit that these things are wrong and that's why in recent dramas they try hard to stop using these tropes and make the plot as clean and healthy as possible.
I did personally see people who would view these things as funny and romantic while they aren't really the way they believe to logically. It's true so many bad things happen around the world and people don't get punished for it, but do we have to agree with that? Of course not. I love sex scenes and would enjoy them no matter how kinky they are as long as both sides are consenting and enjoying it.
About the movie, no, I do like that the man didn't punish his wife for something which isn't her fault (Which happens in places around the wrold sadly) and they raised the kid (Who also doesn't has a fault) with love and care. You don't seem to understand my point of view, I just said that such scenes shouldn't be considered sexy or romantic. You said yourself the scene in the movie was awful and graphic, that's what I want. Not them using sexy music and giving a romantic vibe to the moment. In HIStory, yes the younger brother raped his brother, his brother was also traumatized by it for a while and the younger brother even dared to tell the parents about it proudly. Then they are all okay and in love?! Which part of that sounds good? I don't get it personally, but if you like it then that's fine with me. Falling for your rapist, no matter what is something I wouldn't really agree with no matter what. If the older brother didn't want his brother to be punished or thrown in jail for it then that's his issue, but them becoming a couple is what made me shudder.
Yes even if it's a drama I can shudder at some disturbing moments. Just like people who watch horror and gore then get horrified by it. Dramas are supposed to invoke feelings while you watch them, either negative or positive reaction.
Saying things are only done well my way part. Yes I do have the right to like something that's done the way I like. Does that mean that you aren't allowed to like or watch it? Of course not. I have my own taste, you have yours. I might like something and you might view it as strange. Opposite can happen, just like I disagree with you about the whole dark plots concept. I'm not saying that everyone in the world should follow my opinion but I also have a right to not agree with what I see on screen and judge it.
Also bromance with BL hints? So kind of like The Untamed and Word of Honor lmao
1- The FL's ex fiancé is finally getting tortured by his guilt for real I see. I like that, but I still wish he would stop being insecure about Shi Woo. Like his wife and the ML already broke up, stopped living together and barely interact, does he really need to keep whining over it and bother his wife like that? At this point he doesn't has any right to judge her, he cheated on his fiancé with her and now he is also trying to hurt his wife by being overly jealous and distrusting. This way their marriage will end up in such an ugly way.
If him and FL decide to stay as friends for some reason in future episodes, that's fine as long as he doesn't keep trying to force himself on her and ruin the relationship between her and Shi Woo after all the crap he done to her. Hope he gets mature enough to let her be happy on her own. It's funny how he calls Shi Woo a womanizers when he himself is a cheater...
2- Not gonna lie, I'm starting to really like glasses dude (Can't remember his name) and the kinda older woman working with them. They are basically the only truly mature characters in the whole show. They deserve more screen time. I also like how they both have strong personalities and don't hesitate to be honest even if it makes them savage literally at times.
3- Why are everyone getting jealous over everyone? I mean at least the main leads let out all negative thoughts instantly by arguing and discussing as soon as they meet, instead of just keeping it inside till it turns into a bomb, I know they want to make the story more dramatic by adding angst or whatever, but seriously I wish they will stop it already. Instead of making them fight or be insecure around each other all the time, wish they would give them more sweet moments and let them get closer and improve their chemistry. I still can't 100% feel the spark. Four main leads all work in same building so of course they all gonna keep meeting and interacting almost daily, if they throw a tantrum every time they are together they all will never be happy and the plot will become awfully repetitive.
I hope they won't make them break up when others find out about their relationship or something of the sort after all this. I also don't see why it's a big deal for lovers to live together, they were dating back then. Why it's such a shame that the wife wants to hide it so much?!
I liked when Shi Woo ignored his ex gf questions. She indeed doesn't have the right to ask him about his new gf.
Her and her husband were cheaters then they get upset over their exes dating. I don't understand what's going on with everyone mindset. If the second lead is that upset about his wife living with Shi Woo in past, then why he didn't also scold her for not being a virgin when being with him as well? (Sarcasm here).
4- They actually ended up fighting like thugs in workplace front of others...really? Really? How much more childish are their action gonna get?! They were wrong for letting their emotions make them fight like that, it was quite the retarded scene. It's mostly second lead male's fault since he punched the ML first, I get the ML would want to defend himself in response, but was it supposed to be funny? Personally it wasn't for me.
At this rate they are gonna become even more immature than 10 years old kids. Instead of growing they are going backward. I totally felt the frustration and disappointment of their chief when he scolded them. They could get fired for it.
Glad at least FL defended Shi Woo, Their scene at that restaurant was cute, not gonna lie. Now if she just become more confident in herself and her relationship with the ML, throw her past relationship away and focus on her job and being happy. her character will be way better. That's her real issue.
(Just a reminder here for anyone who reads my comments. If you find them awfully negative or whatever like many claim, I just want to let you know. It's my opinion and I have the right to be honest and criticize any show here even if I sound harsh. I won't lie or say only good stuff to please others when I don't mean them in first place. If you like this drama then that's fine by me. I don't share my opinions to personally insult the other watchers or judge them for liking the show. If you love the drama then go ahead watch it, recommend it, or do what you want that's your right like all users of this website.
I also hope others don't attack me personally, say rude stuff, or tell me to stop watching just cause they happen to disagree.
If you want to have a respectful discussion and share your point of view, even if it does differ from mine then I'm more than okay with that. If you feel my comments aren't good then just leave me alone and ignore my comments completely, to not waste your time nor mine on unnecessary fight that won't do any of us benefit and in future don't click on my spoiler tagged comments to save yourself the pain. Please don't spread hatred and hurtful words over a drama).
Though at times it can be interesting to see their comments because just like you said, you learn a lot about the world and others mindsets by doing so.
In this drama we aren't talking about how vulgar or realistic the sex scenes is though. We are talking about how pointless it was in the plot. I feel uncomfortable when they are out of the blue and don't serve anything. Like they just exist for pure fan service or just because. Like watching a serial killer story and then they show two animals fucking on street in the middle of it as if it's supposed to make sense.
Yeah I get what you mean, I also liked some dramas where the main leads (Or my favorite characters were considered bad or criminals, but I still rooted for them and wanted them to be happy like Hello Monster, The Devil Judge, Boys Over Flowers, Vincenzo, Mouse, Beyond Evil...etc).
I highly like plots revolved around revenge, psychopaths, and similar concepts. In Effect the rapist didn't really get punished, the victim just told him to leave him alone and that was about it, he never got jailed or anything.
I didn't say people are gonna go around raping people after watching rape scenes. What I meant is that sometimes some really non healthy behavior might be viewed as something romantic by watchers cause they keep being used in dramas. Like in straight dramas when female characters beat the crap out of, slap, and kick the male leads whenever they are upset about the stupidest reasons. When Male leads grab the female lead and drag her somewhere by force, yell at her, and try to boss her around in name of being in love with her...etc
In BLs when the top/seme force himself on the bottom/uke and do sexual stuff while he isn't conscious for example. The people who make these dramas themselves admit that these things are wrong and that's why in recent dramas they try hard to stop using these tropes and make the plot as clean and healthy as possible.
I did personally see people who would view these things as funny and romantic while they aren't really the way they believe to logically. It's true so many bad things happen around the world and people don't get punished for it, but do we have to agree with that? Of course not. I love sex scenes and would enjoy them no matter how kinky they are as long as both sides are consenting and enjoying it.
About the movie, no, I do like that the man didn't punish his wife for something which isn't her fault (Which happens in places around the wrold sadly) and they raised the kid (Who also doesn't has a fault) with love and care. You don't seem to understand my point of view, I just said that such scenes shouldn't be considered sexy or romantic. You said yourself the scene in the movie was awful and graphic, that's what I want. Not them using sexy music and giving a romantic vibe to the moment. In HIStory, yes the younger brother raped his brother, his brother was also traumatized by it for a while and the younger brother even dared to tell the parents about it proudly. Then they are all okay and in love?! Which part of that sounds good? I don't get it personally, but if you like it then that's fine with me. Falling for your rapist, no matter what is something I wouldn't really agree with no matter what. If the older brother didn't want his brother to be punished or thrown in jail for it then that's his issue, but them becoming a couple is what made me shudder.
Yes even if it's a drama I can shudder at some disturbing moments. Just like people who watch horror and gore then get horrified by it. Dramas are supposed to invoke feelings while you watch them, either negative or positive reaction.
Saying things are only done well my way part. Yes I do have the right to like something that's done the way I like. Does that mean that you aren't allowed to like or watch it? Of course not. I have my own taste, you have yours. I might like something and you might view it as strange.
Opposite can happen, just like I disagree with you about the whole dark plots concept. I'm not saying that everyone in the world should follow my opinion but I also have a right to not agree with what I see on screen and judge it.