Rahab75

I don't think it is underrated. From what I see this is almost universally liked, with very few exeptions.

I hope they rescuse Naoya's brother from his father too. I'd love to see Takaaki employing him. That would be another great punch to the old geezer.

Rather like not much logic in this comment. Basic human logis is not dependent on times. Yes, people see 3 guys fighting and only report one of them, due to the times. Crack me up more.

It is unbelievable that people suck up that the increased number of high budget Chinese BLs were possible to make and get international streaming rights without the Chinese censorship approval. They exactly know people in mainland China all watch these dramas via VPN and they generate great attention there, just look at what happened to th stars of Revenged Love.

The CCP does exactly what the communist Eastern bloc did in the consolidation time. They just look away. BLs are not officially being broadcast in mainland China but it is happening in this tricky way and the authorities turn blind eye to it. If they really wanted to erase such content they would not allow such detours. The cast and crew of these damas keep working in other straight dramas too.

But why point at anyone when they saw 3 people fighting with a gang? In that situation if they don't wanna touch the other two the realistic scenario is to stay silent about it.

Picking up one person because they don't like him while knowing he was not alone is absurd and was bound to be proven false, especially since there were many winesses and it is not guaranteed they all say the same.

The whole situation is absurd and illogical. I don't know why it is so hard to admit a flaw in writing.

The point is the accusation was implausible and absurd even by the standards of the period. Gaew was fighting the same person with two other people there and only he was accused.

I guesss Lu Qing never planned to marry Son Quian Yu, they must be faking it and she should be playing around knowingly. When Wen Xi introduced her to Xiao Fan as his future sister-in-law she repeatedly told Wen Xi to stop teasing and joking.

They only saw Gaew fighting with Dam, and Gaew was not fighting alone, Dech and Falcon were fighting there two. The witnesses saw them as well, so did they see there was no stabbing. The whole thing doesn’t make sense.

Could not Dech and Falcon tell straight away they knew Gaew was innocent before Gaew was dragged to the station to be racked? And I know this is not the age of rule of law but was it enough to see someone fighting with someone else to be accussed of murder? This seems rather slipshod writing.

Rather than exceptionalism or individualism it is more like they have a complete tunnel vision limited to romance.

The same shit was going in the comment section of Shine. That was an extremely complex and nuanced political drama too with all protagoniststs' moves and steps strongly shaped by their political stance, ideals and social upbringing between which they were heavily torn. They all had to balance numerous life-and-death situations, yet the only aspect and angle from which some BL fans were inclined to judge the characters' actions was how much the they ticked their moral supremacist boxes romantic realtionship-wise.

But it does not even have to be historical-political subject. There is the infidelity issue over which they always lose their shit. The MLs get free pass from some BL fans for being contract killers, loan sharks, abusers, etc. but if they kiss someone other than their partners the same fans are immediately foaming in the mouth and want them dead.

Twisted freaks, a lot of them.

The parents would deserve some beating too.

You are an idiot. Once again you keep blabbering about irrelevant details and whatever compensatory measures Thin did after basically doing the same.

I am not ignoring aspects, just that those aspects do not change the point at all. I am clearly elaborated why, you just keep fudging.

"He gave the schedule which Phob himself asked."

Yeah, let's ignore the fact Thin exactly knew it was fake and that Phob was 100% using it, hence contributing to whatever comes. It is only a matter of luck no harm was done, because they changed their plans.

I have no more time for disingenuous bullshitters like you.

Your constant fudging, twisting and diverting to irrelevant collateral facts is getting both bloody tiresome and pathetic.

I don't give a fuck that Thin warned him about the rebels.

I don't give a fuck that he did not know his father planned a massacre.

I don't give a fuck he confronted his father afterwards not to harm Phob.

NONE OF THESE change the fact he previoulsly used Phob for his father's political gain, and yes, also making use of his intimate relationship with Phob, no matter how many times you are bullshitting around irrelevant details.

"Phob was right to fight for democracy but he is wrong to use Thin's trust. No argument can defend it. "

You certainly don't dictate to me what I can and what I cannot defend. Squeeze that into your thick skull.
Btw I m not defending or attacking either of them. I am just hihlighting they are both doing morally questionable things because they are torn between their love for each other and their duty and environents. Those who are not wearing blinkers can see it.

You are fudging again. The fact Thin did not know his father was planning an attack which could also be fatal does not make any difference. He knew something was gonna happen to the rebels and he used Phob for that and he never admitted that to him later either.

Codswallop. Thin saving Phob later does not change the fact he also used Phob for the political gain of his family. He did exactly th same thing and Phob now, you all are just blind to this because it does not suit your agenda.

For all the "poor Thin was betrayed by Phob" sob choir:

Were you all whining that Thin betrayed Phob when he gave him fake schedule for Vasin's political gain which could have caused Phob's death? Were you all saying Phob deserves someone better?

Do you have a memory of a gold fish?

They honestly think it is okay. Their whole mindset is about they are the better ones of the nation and everyone else is under their feet and should feel honoured even to be treated as a human being in the first place. That is how they were all brought up. It is in their blood.

I remember they had a comment a couple of episodes ago that this show has no plot. So much for this person.

Some people already viscerally hating the second couple and deciding to skip their scenes (which on its own is the most immature toddler act ever) for their very misguided and ill-thought out but obviously not malicious act is kindergarten level in the worst MDL user tradition.

The problem is not even forgiving itself, but the fact they never make these horrendous fuckers earn that forgiveness.