Rahab75

I am glad that you brought this difference of gay infidelity up. I have already hinted at this previously but you have elaborated it in far more detail.

I have always found it hilarious how a substantial number of viewers - and usually straight women - condemn BL for not having proper LGBT representation, and when they get one in a realistic format, like here, with cheating or the possibility of cheating, they are having instant meltdown. The same melodramatic head over heels action was under the comment section of Friend Zone, when Dr Sam double-crossed Earth with Stud. They were all hissing and booing, insisting that should not have been forgiven, and that any relationship should end there.

As a gay man myself too, I am not saying every gay person wishes for open relationships or take their other half's straying just as a throwaway, but most of them certainly don't regard infidelity as an irreversible act of "treason" or "betrayal", that causes damages impossible to recover from. This is literally a very hetero-normative, straight female take at the issue, and it shows how little they know the gay scene and LGBT community, which they allegedly so much would like to see represented (in theory). Like you said, gay couples are not tied by societal restraints and norms, and they know love and sexual desire could be so different and far from each other, like heaven and earth - at least in case of guys. Of course, if the other one is a sexual predator willing to breed the entire village, that is a completely different matter. But not being able to resist the occasional carnal temptation, in particular when the relationship is in a somewhat rocky state, does not necessarily mean the end of love.

All bs from beginning to end. Another one with zero comprehension skills.

This was a surprisingly celeverly written and witty entrée with careful characterizations and refreshingly natural leading performances as well as a very catchy music score.

I had some concerns about the replacement of a major factor in the creative crew (director and screenwriter), but if that goes on like this - knock on wood - then IPYTM very much seems to bring in the standard of its predecessor.

In my opinion, although slightly different from ITSAY, because it is less slow, less visually narrated and less strongly character-driven, and more plot-packed, more verbal, and faster-paced, they are on par so far to me.

The acting is still lavish, the script is still very good and plausible, the directing is subtle, nuanced and sensual, the visual elements of Bangkok and the visual world are as illusory as they were in Phuket. And the cinematography is excellent too, visually it is stunning. In my humble opinion, this threatens to be another masterpiece.

So in one moment Migs is an agressive, homophobic bully and a few minutes later he magically transforms into an understanding bro who is "still learning". Wtf? Markie should have stood up to himself long ago against this total jackass. "I am proud of both of you" - well, there is nothing to be proud of about Migs.

And that is the point where I had enough of your gaslighting arse. You might hear the voice of my toilet being flushed.

I am not worth your time, but oddly enough you are the one who keep huffing after me, you wretched creep. Go and learn terms and basic facts not to be seem such a complete thicko. Fuck off.

You don't know the difference between love and desire, infidelity and confusion, cheating and lying. You are the one who has been insulting me in spite of being totally clueless about everything, even the basic terms. Now piss off. I have no time for agressive idiots.

Admission accepted. Lying to your partner is lying and not cheating. Not very nice thing to do, but different. I am glad if I helped.

I could ask the same from you. Your comment again is the quintessential prudist, B&W stance. Being confused and doubtful about his own feelings for his current bf and having sexual desire about someone else in mind already qualifies as cheating? I have seen plenty of stupefyingly idiotic statements over this page but this is way ahead of the competition.

"If another series like ITSAY were attacked like this I would post on that board like I do on here".

Just look at the page of IPYTM. One of the main characters proved to be a flawed one, the purists have started to attack it straight away. Mind-blowing.

If anyone is a drama queen here that is you and your stable mates. There has not even been a cheating so far, only a kiss, but you all have decided they cannot be happy together again, even though we are in the middle, we don't know what they go though in the remaining episodes, what journey and torture they gonna have. "Cheating" should have fatal consequences, BL leads are never allowed to have someone other than each other in their minds forever, decided by the Prudits BL Fan Board. Totally childish and ridiculous.

Since you called me your friend and I don't intend to be the friend of petulant children (yes, it is you who behave and write like one), I had to state that. Cheating is "normal" as it is a part of several relationships, some forgive it and some don't, but few treat it as an unforgivable sin.

1. I am not your friend. 2. You should go out more as you clearly have few life experiences. And I have never said cheating is matureness. I would say don't use strawman argument, and put words into my mouth, but you clearly have issues with reading and comprehension skills, let alone grammar.

My favourite is when cry babies start such tantrum that "my viewpoint is the only relevant point allowed to be made". Where did I say that, eh? You feel butthurt when confronted with a radical and diametrically opposite viewpoint, but that is your issue, don't put words into my mouth. "adhere to cheating " Lol. Quintessential SJW. Cheating or the temptation of cheating is one of the most common real-life challenges in relationships, especially in gay ones, and here, at this stage of their life and at this point of one of the main characters' confused state of mind is extremely realistic, and not nonsensical just beacause prudist BL fans cannot handle anything but cute boys being lovey-dovey to each other. This show is extremely well-written, directed, acted and well-made so far, and "toxic" is a stupid and lazy buzzword for people with simple-minded and black & white mindset who cannot cope with complex situations and human flaws, just like here. I am as much entitled to share my views here also and I use whatever words I fancy, Deal with it.

Utter bullshit. Most relationships survive cheating, especially gay ones. You should talk to more people. And fictions do not have to send moral messages to immature viewers anyway.

JFC, what a bunch of pissbabies again. Those who squeak like a pig whenever something like this happens in a slice-of-life drama should go and watch Disney and Hallmark channel instead. I am sick up to the back teeth of tight-arsed, purist SJWs screeching the fecking buzzword "toxic" whenever a human being proves to be flawed. If they got their way all BLs would be about boring, clean-cut, non-flawed, washed out characters. "Normalize cheating" - Holy shit. I cannot believe grown ups could say such idiocy. Cheating is a part of life, kiddos, hence it is "normal". People do not always do what is right, and we cannot even judge what is right in certain circumstances and conditions. Relationships and love are complicated and not black & white. Grow up. Thank God fillmmakers are not getting inspirations from comment sections.

Surprise you who could only copy and paste again and again how butthurt moppet you are by being insulted by naighty commenters booo flippin' booo. Not worth. I am not gonna waste my Friday night on you. Later you get your ratio, cry baby.

Since you made it entirely clear from day one that adult debate exceeds your IQ, that is all we have left to do with you. When you start debating like an adult, you might expect more. And I don't give a flying fig whether your kind takes me seriously or not.

And back to the start. Tantrums when you have no argument. Look up SJW in google, poor little one. It is not people using insults, just saying. I use insults when necessary. Btw a few of us have argued consistently and meticulously on the subject over weeks. All you have done so far was making statements and meltdowns when contradicted afterwards. Grow up and learn to defend your view like an adult, if you wanna be taken seriously.