Unfortunate to hear you don't like Japanese comedy in shows. But yes its one of the genres as you can see on this…
No problem! See you there I suppose. It's a smaller production though so that may have contributed in it not being as wellknown. Its very different from Kieta Hatsukoi and Cherry Magic but has some interesting elements and definitely keeps the attention.
Exactly! The bullying and humiliation were a little too much for me. As you said, the ML has issues and I hope…
I guess we will see how it develops now that Kiyoi is there to actively intervene in the future too. I believe he said ''Kimoi'' / キモい which translates to disgusting/gross as far as I'm aware. He says ''omae kimoi/ お前 キモイ which is ''You (informal) are gross'' in the scene where ML called him beautiful.
The second time (as far as I'm aware) is the one where he takes a picture of Kiyoi drinking whereafter he says ''omae uzai'' which is ''You're ugly''. So from that second interaction I feel like there was definitely an intent to put him down and not just call out the cheeziness of the situation. But this is just my interpretation. I feel like that's the nice thing about shows, you can interpret stuff differently at times. Mayby I'm looking at it too negatively and theres already something going on
But if you saw the episode you'd realize that the love interest doesn't allow the rest of the class call him names…
Thanks a lot for sharing all this info about the novel. I have a greater understanding about the story now and how all of Kiyois current actions will come back to haunt him. I like that the story doesn't easily let all those events go.
Don't some folks ever ask themselves this question: Who the hell I am to define what relationship is "healthy"…
Its just initial reactions. We don't have anything else to base our expectations on (except reading the novel I guess) currently and this first episode was pretty heavy. With the stalking, bullying ect.. Also I think warning BL fans that it isn't fluff like previous JBLs of this year is fair.
You're right relationships can be unique in a lot of ways. For me the possessive dynamic reminded me of examples like A Round Trip to Love and Addicted Heroin. I will say theres definitely an audience for these shows so its not necessarily a bad thing, just different. I will continue to watch the show as its interesting to me how things will develop.
Unfortunate to hear you don't like Japanese comedy in shows. But yes its one of the genres as you can see on this…
Oh I read the manga of that way back! Yeah its cute! Have you had a chance to see the new JBL Utsukushii Kare yet? I'd love to hear your thoughts, its a lot darker than Kieta Hatsukoi.
But if you saw the episode you'd realize that the love interest doesn't allow the rest of the class call him names…
I like to hear that it does happen but yeah unfortunate that it takes so long. Its like a slowburn romance except for this its a slowburn towards a healthy romance.
I thought that was very mild bullying - it's really more D/s to me. Notice how Kiyoi does not allow anyone else…
I can see thats where the shows trying to go with it, the whole power game they're setting up. It is mild bullying in comparison to some other depictions I've seen of bullying in Japan but still wanted to mention it. I know some users are adverse to seeing bullying depicted in shows they watch. And yeah that final thing you mentioned is the possessiveness that both MLs have towards each other. Hira being the more obvious one but Kiyoi also already getting trapped in that pattern.
Exactly! The bullying and humiliation were a little too much for me. As you said, the ML has issues and I hope…
But the bullies do make fun of his stutter though. Not only by laughing about it but also by replicating it to parody it later. In the first scene this happens they show the world around the ML warping, I think he is definitely impacted by it in a negative way. I think he will just care less in the future due to his love for the other ML blinding him to the negative aspects.
Its certainly an interesting show. I will warn Kieta Hatsukoi and Cherry Magic fans that the vibe is very different in the first episode. KH & CM are wholesome love stories while UK is possessive love. The ML has some issues and it gives a feeling of uncertainty and twisted love at this point. In short, this isn't building to a healthy relationship from the start and it will likely take a while for that to fix (if that's the shows intent). I hope at the end of the show the ML will have some selflove. Also for anyone sensitive to it: This show has a lot of bullying scenes at the start.
I feel like this is written in English, and yet I have absolutely no idea what any of it means. But I'm old.
The main actors are both in boygroups. The two songs you hear in this show are from boy groups Snow Man (Idas actor with the nickname Meme) and Naniwa Danshi (Aokis actor with the nickname Michi).
You should look up their MVs sometime. Ones called Ubulove and the other Secret Touch.
Ride on Time is a show that features solely boygroups from Japan. It's pretty interesting and gives a good insight, would recommend it. It shows the struggle to succeed in the Japanese music business. The shows name is a reference to a wellknown older citypop song from Japan from singer Tatsuro Yamashita which they also use as theme music throughout the show.
I feel like this is written in English, and yet I have absolutely no idea what any of it means. But I'm old.
Its perfectly understandable text. You just aren't familiar enough with the Japanese music industry and you haven't looked into the background of the main actors of this show. Look into Johnnys Entertainment sometime. They've existed since the 1960s with different groups so its not an age thing. Groups like Naniwa Danshi, Snow Man but also older ones like KAT-TUN, SMAP, Arashi ect..
Unfortunate to hear you don't like Japanese comedy in shows. But yes its one of the genres as you can see on this…
Oh is that really the case? I think if you like Cherry Magic I'm sure we can find some common ground of things we both like ^^ I love Cherry Magic myself too. Given and Pornographer were pretty good and I loved Takane no Hana-san too. It was fun with the tsundere character. If you have any other recommendations let me know! Nice to hear someone who watches mostly content from Japan
https://mydramalist.com/discussions/japanese-drama-movies/28121-japanese-bl-dramas-films
Others already gave pretty good recs.
Its very different from Kieta Hatsukoi and Cherry Magic but has some interesting elements and definitely keeps the attention.
I believe he said ''Kimoi'' / キモい which translates to disgusting/gross as far as I'm aware. He says ''omae kimoi/ お前 キモイ which is ''You (informal) are gross'' in the scene where ML called him beautiful.
The second time (as far as I'm aware) is the one where he takes a picture of Kiyoi drinking whereafter he says ''omae uzai'' which is ''You're ugly''. So from that second interaction I feel like there was definitely an intent to put him down and not just call out the cheeziness of the situation. But this is just my interpretation. I feel like that's the nice thing about shows, you can interpret stuff differently at times. Mayby I'm looking at it too negatively and theres already something going on
You're right relationships can be unique in a lot of ways. For me the possessive dynamic reminded me of examples like A Round Trip to Love and Addicted Heroin. I will say theres definitely an audience for these shows so its not necessarily a bad thing, just different. I will continue to watch the show as its interesting to me how things will develop.
And yeah that final thing you mentioned is the possessiveness that both MLs have towards each other. Hira being the more obvious one but Kiyoi also already getting trapped in that pattern.
In the first scene this happens they show the world around the ML warping, I think he is definitely impacted by it in a negative way. I think he will just care less in the future due to his love for the other ML blinding him to the negative aspects.
KH & CM are wholesome love stories while UK is possessive love. The ML has some issues and it gives a feeling of uncertainty and twisted love at this point. In short, this isn't building to a healthy relationship from the start and it will likely take a while for that to fix (if that's the shows intent). I hope at the end of the show the ML will have some selflove.
Also for anyone sensitive to it: This show has a lot of bullying scenes at the start.
You should look up their MVs sometime. Ones called Ubulove and the other Secret Touch.
Ride on Time is a show that features solely boygroups from Japan. It's pretty interesting and gives a good insight, would recommend it. It shows the struggle to succeed in the Japanese music business. The shows name is a reference to a wellknown older citypop song from Japan from singer Tatsuro Yamashita which they also use as theme music throughout the show.
You can find more JBL here: https://mydramalist.com/discussions/japanese-drama-movies/28121-japanese-bl-dramas-films
Look into Johnnys Entertainment sometime. They've existed since the 1960s with different groups so its not an age thing.
Groups like Naniwa Danshi, Snow Man but also older ones like KAT-TUN, SMAP, Arashi ect..
Given and Pornographer were pretty good and I loved Takane no Hana-san too. It was fun with the tsundere character. If you have any other recommendations let me know! Nice to hear someone who watches mostly content from Japan