RuxiTS

omg. such a tragedy. thx for the answer.

thank you for keeping us updated

I have a question, pls. I was reading an article about KSR's life in which is stated : "After her parents’ divorce, her mother, battling depression, once tried to force her and her two younger sisters into a joint suicide.". Is this true ? The article was meant to raise awareness.

Are you joking with me? You are from the USA, right? It’s stated in your personal description. As we speak, right now, in 2025, in USA : 31 states set the age of consent at 16 yrs, 8 set it at 17 yrs, and 11 set it at 18 yrs. Majority of countries on this planet have it set between 14 and 16. In case you didn’t know, 18 is not the popular choice globally.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/age-of-consent-by-country

These facts alone should ring the bell that documents exist regarding the reasons for 16 yrs old being considered and chosen as an appropriate age of consent, especially when it exists in more countries than the 18 yrs consent does. Cognitive capacity - knowledge, manipulation of information, reasoning - that already reached adult levels at 16, fact stated by medical institutions all over the world, who have a saying in the law making - is just one of the hundreds of factors taken into account when all these nations considered 16 as being the appropriate age for consent. Clearly there are many many factors involved for such a decision, for such a law.

It happens that in my opinion, I consider that 16 yrs old is the best for consent. I based my opinion on information searched and received during past years, experiences and different factors. At least, compared to you, I stated why I am pro the age of 16. You never said why you consider 18 as being the most appropriate choice for legal consent except that is the age of majority. The only thing you did by now was to fight mine. What exactly is your fight ? You keep talking about aggressors. Aggressors will aggress regardless if it’s 18 or 16. If you wanted to talk about measures of prevention you should have said so.

You shouldn’t get upset because I don’t consider 18 yrs old more appropriate, as you do. The fact that you don’t agree is one thing. I even accept you fighting against my choice. But saying that I am trying to convince you is already exaggerated. Clearly you took our conversation on a more personal level than you should have. We are strangers, after all. You also keep using the word ”us”. Who is “us” ? Do you have an audience? I thought we (me and you) were just having a conversation, exchanging opinions. I guess you took this to a completely different level.

You stated in your personal description page that you are the proud mother of a large number of children, as well as grandchildren and even a great-grandchild. May they be blessed ! I assumed, according to your description, that you are at a later stage in life so you are more experienced and interested in different things that are going on around. That’s why I engaged in the conversation, being curious about your point of view and your experiences.

In conclusion, I believe at this point we both agree to stop writing to each other. So, if you don’t mind, this will be my last message to you.

For personal study, you can read these :
https://www.apa.org/pubs/highlights/spotlight/issue-143
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30762417/
https://www.unicef.org/lac/media/2806/file
https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2019-08477-003

I agree with your paragraph 2. I 've also had experience with it first hand. And that's why I can't side with the family. The family, with the help of medical authorities had the possibility to register her to an institution which at least could prevent her from future self harming. Usually families go through several attempts max. Some even go for therapy. In this case, the number of attempts was so overwhelming that I can't understand why she was still unsupervised. Especially in a period when she had no more work and was attacked by the media. It was a clear sign that things can go nowhere better. Also, that was not a time for her to interact with others because who knows what words could trigger her, or what actions could lead her to do it again.
All the people she interacted or would interact with, especially on an emotional level like her boyfriend and later the husband, puts them in a very difficult position, regardless if they knew about this or not. Imagine what effects and level of guilt these people would feel if her last and final attempt would be during their relationship.

You said that the age of consent should align with the age of majority which is 18 years old.
My answer to your statement was that in my opinion, 16 is the best age for consent for 2 reasons :
1. because of the massive changes that took place in the last decades (eg. digital era, speed and information as well as the cognitive capacity - knowledge, manipulation of information, reasoning - that already reached adult levels at 16, fact stated by medical institutions all over the world, who have a saying in the law making) led to growth of the level of maturity, autonomy and responsibility (of a 16 yrs old, of course) .These are facts already made public, from a long time ago so I assumed you are familiar with them.
2. the longer something is forbidden the more craved it is, meaning that at 16, the intimacy craving, as well as the crave for love and being loved, perfectly normal and characteristic feelings at the age of 16, grows higher the longer is forbidden - here I was talking about the forbidden fruit effect. An effect more pronounced during the teenage years. You were a teenager, too. How is it that you didn’t understand who and what I was referring to ?

I was clearly talking about reasons why, in my opinion, 16 is the best age for consent. It’s also clear that I was referring to teenagers, because they are the ones who are 16 and they are the subject of the 16 yrs old consent. I have no idea why you thought I am talking about adults which led to misinterpretation of my statements, and automatically of my entire message.

I understand. For me is the exact opposite. The family's actions are exactly what makes me doubt them. I can't get past the fact that KSR had 18 suicide attempts and they did nothing.

I believe it's a witch hunt. what about you ? you really think KSR's family truly speaks for KSR ?

I agree is futile but not because the reasons you stated, but because I stand for something different than you. Thx for answering me, anyway.

I was referring to teenagers, as intimacy craving is one of their characteristics and their craving for love and being loved, as well as their curiosity about things that are forbidden. And because massive changes took place in the last decades, the level of maturity, autonomy and responsibility grew significantly. The higher this level, the lower the consent age.

Adult craving over children is something completely different. First we must decide when a child stops being a child. Morality is a vast subject. We can talk about it from many points of view. People even debate if we are born with morals or not. It varies from a person to another. It’s also very different from a culture to another, hence the legal age differs so much.

Access to underage children, considered underaged by a law, can happen regardless. That is why we try to protect ourselves, our loved ones, we take measures to prevent, we talk about it. The amount of pain and heartache shouldn't be measured according to a threshold. Pain it's pain, regardless if it’s at 13 or 16 or 18 and regardless if it’s considered a child or an adult. No matter how much we debate, nobody is prepared for something like that, no matter the country and its law. BUT pain comes only as a result of an aggression. When someone strips you of control.

An aggressor is immoral, right ? How do we judge a man who "craves" for a 16 yrs old girl but does not act ? How do we judge a man who "craves" for a 16 yrs old in a country with 18 consent that does not act but goes to a country with 16 consent and acts ? And most of all how do we judge a man who acts with a 16 yrs old, marries her later and live a happy life together.

It all comes down to our personal experiences.

Just highlight it with an angry emoji.

Oh ,no. I was referring to what you wrote to me here. If you read up you'll see that I wrote : "Your message to me was :" and there is your message/reply. plus I never used the word "privately". Sorry from my part. but still ! you don't really need to scream.

Hey ! Back off !
I received notification that you answered to my comment. I clicked on it and it wasn't there. I logged off and I saw it there. I copy-pasted it here and I answered it.
If it was block or soft error, I don't care. Who said anything about privately ? Is this something you do ? Putting words into people's mouth ?

I understand very well what you mean, no need to explain.
It's just strange that you say the parents are talking in Korean age when Korean age doesn't even apply anymore.
For me things are simple : if they said she was dating in 2015, that means she was 15 yrs old. Because she was born in 2000. And 16 in Korean age.

true. I don't think they intended to change the law, either. plus they already did it 5 yrs ago. In my opinion 16 is the best age for consent. everything changed dramatically in the last decades. it's true that a higher age alerts you to be cautious but it's also true that the longer something is forbidden the more craved it is.

You are not paying attention.
All media, Korean or International, refers to KSR's age in international/western standard. So when they say she was 15 that means she was 16 in Korean standard. This doesn't apply anymore, as it was above mentioned.

Exactly ! Which brings the question : was it a mockery from non fans or a media mean to make it bigger than it is. Anything is possible.

I disagree in this one. It's easier to forge signatures or pay people to sign than paying 1M Chinese to come to Korea. Adding the trucks and the lawsuits files... plus petitions can easily be buried. Like super fast...And what about all the other countries ? It's not only China.

It seems you are not up to date. If you talk about support then you must know that 1M Chinese fans alone rallied to support the actor. They paid for the support trucks and plane tickets and came to stand behind him.

Countries like Vietnam, Philippines, Brazil, India and many many others did the same. At this point the Global support for the actor even filed lawsuits against denigrators.

You talk about a thousand signatures on paper but in reality people are spending personal money doing everything they can to support him. There's nothing fake in this. This is what really happens.

So it remains only the western ?