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Replying to ShortCircuit Aug 9, 2026
Title Vanishing Point Spoiler
The creepiest was the poor old man in his fish tank. The timeline edit made it a bit harder to understand but…
YingYing (the little girl)'s father. The old man's son isn't blameless either but he's more of an accidental criminal, not really evil.

The timelines are shown intermingled, but some of the events already happened before the kid went missing and it only becomes clear that things aren't linear when it's closer to the end.

It's a good ending, so dive in.
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Replying to ShortCircuit Aug 9, 2026
Title Vanishing Point Spoiler
The creepiest was the poor old man in his fish tank. The timeline edit made it a bit harder to understand but…
1. Yes he is.
2. Yes, he is also. He's just a lot older than her.
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Replying to ShortCircuit Aug 8, 2026
1. Lu and Yu are now a couple, living together and everything. Yu has to make a drama and somebody changed his…
The end of episode scenes aren't always in sync with the timeline. They could've had the message talk before CY went away to that Hunter thing IMHO.

If he were back from looking and going back to school - or whatever that is - he'd have told QL about it, I think.
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Replying to Joanne R Aug 7, 2026
I’m on ep. 11 and have NO clue what’s going on here. Can anyone explain it to me. First, from week to week,…
Han Lu (cute shou) is acting in the movie with Qi HaoYu (dumb gong). He can't get into character when he's asked to imagine being betrayed by a scumbag he really loves, so HaoYu borrows his assistant's phone (the assistant is the amazing Brother Guo) to send him a message cursing HaoYu (himself) as untrustworthy etc. So then Han Lu gets into character easily and they film the scene flawlessly LOL.

There's one other second-hand sending of a message in that ep, and that's QingLang (MC) asking ChangYang's sister (the obnoxious sassaeng) to send ChangYang a staged photo of QL and his ex so that ChangYang (ML) should believe QL is really over him and move on with his life (as if LOL).

Or do you mean you don't get any of their names? At all? :D
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Replying to ShortCircuit Aug 7, 2026
So there's no body and ChangYang is still looking in a freaking primeval forest?! And he DIDN'T get killed by…
You know, it would make more sense, if TianTian is alive, that ChangYang found his trace and is looking for him in a city or something, than them to have plotted his disappeareance. Like that, CY won't get vaporised by laser beams coming from all our eyes for keeping QL in the dark, OR it won't be on the boys to have kept it from their mom and grandma.

And like that it would make sense why he doesn't want QL to find out, since it might not be a sure thing and he wouldn't want to raise his hopes and get nothing.

Like that, it's only QT's ass that's going to be black and blue for these shenanigans.

Here's hoping it IS like we all hope it is.
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Replying to Natalie_K Aug 7, 2026
Wait, why is nobody talking about Lee Dong Wook? He is absolutely fire in this role🫠🫠
In the first season, definitely. In this one...
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On Bittersweet Love Aug 7, 2026
LOL, the whole Lu OR Bei families never heard that you should fear the anger of a gentle man.

Here comes the face-slapping.
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Replying to NewbieNVDB Aug 7, 2026
I need paragraf ppl to explaine ep14 to me bc I didn't get anything at all! I am soo confused about the story…
1. Lu and Yu are now a couple, living together and everything. Yu has to make a drama and somebody changed his contract to include NC scenes and Lu is jealous for it but suspects it's the work of the shady investor who's trying to get Lu as his side piece after he had a night with him. Lu is trying to get the investor off by indirectly telling him he and Yu are not related so it's no use targeting him (not working).

Sister JiaLin is trying hard to make the sponsor understand Lu is now off-limits, even if he once folded in order to not attract the investor's attention to Yu (didn't manage it). JiaLin also has a little girl (did you notice a father around? Nobody did).

Now there's a story about a drama that will involve genomics, and somebody - the investor most probably - put a water army on asking how did JiaLin's little girl come about, and people on the net are commenting she got her by some genetic CRISPR process or something 'cause she's rich. Therefore even Shi YuHao is telling that story of when the company started, and he got a horrible rash filming, Sister Lan and JiaLin worked thousands of hours to remove his blotches from the film and make it a success, because they were nobodies trying to start up a company, definitely not rich. And that makes the genetics talk go away.

The other problem - the investor - got treated (not sure if it's solved) - through Lu and Yu breaking up (and later Yu coming back because he can't leave his hubs.)

2. ChangYang is supposedly searching for QingTian's body in the primeval forest but now he's obviously back and I guess maybe *keeping fingers crossed* there was no DEAD body to find at all. We'll see. As to why he's not telling QL where he is, dunno - maybe he's on the traces of someone who doesn't want to be found but doesn't want to give QL false hope or something?...

(Give ME some hope, CY~ LOL)

3. Oh, I don't know if he's dead. I mean, no body, no death. Them's the rules.
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Replying to ShortCircuit Aug 7, 2026
So there's no body and ChangYang is still looking in a freaking primeval forest?! And he DIDN'T get killed by…
If that turns out to be true, I want my last week back LOL, I mourned like everything was real.
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Replying to ShortCircuit Aug 7, 2026
So there's no body and ChangYang is still looking in a freaking primeval forest?! And he DIDN'T get killed by…
WHAT IF QingLang is also in on it????

WHO did he send that "mom's going to become a nun" message to, if not either CY or QT????

I have SUSPICIONS now. I'm suspecting CY and QL to have enabled QT's retreat to deal with his feelings. I don't think CY would DARE!!!! to do it by himself.

On the other hand... CY is still so young. And QL already forgave him for keeping him away when Sis Lan died. Maybe he doesn't think so far ahead, and QT was his friend for longer.

Though I am beginning to be extremely convinced they're ALL in this together.

... Still going to destroy everything if CY and QT didn't tell anyone. (At least he'd still be alive then anyway. His ass would be so black and blue he wouldn't sit down for a MONTH!).
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Replying to oddsare Aug 7, 2026
I must be losing my mind. I got up before dawn for episode 14 and then immediately watched it a second time.Spoilers…
You COULD use the spoiler button though. If you want some of what you're saying to be shown in the clear, just post that and THEN reply to your own comment with another that includes the spoil parts, then check the "spoiler" button and save. That's it. There's no danger of spoiling anyone if you do it like that.
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Replying to ShortCircuit Aug 7, 2026
A good villain is either 1. a really smart villain (they could be crazy but if they're just viciously calculated…
Oh you didn't want a discussion, you wanted to post a definitive statement.

My bad.
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Replying to SEVEN_dipity Aug 7, 2026
so Honda was not mute nor he was deaf????????
He was never deaf. He seems to have been able to talk in the past, but in S1 he couldn't speak any more. They didn't tell us how, maybe they forgot about him.
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Replying to Orim Aug 7, 2026
I think kusanagi is a great villainess. She's power hungry, intelligent & and knows how to use information…
A good villain is either 1. a really smart villain (they could be crazy but if they're just viciously calculated and cold it's just as good) who can take their time doing their thing OR 2. a really crazy villain who cannot be reasoned with because he's way too gone to even compute rational thoughts.

Both are the scariest types of villains IF played right.

Kusanagi is just a caricature of a smart villain. She's needlessly violent, completely unreasonable (I mean, take out a whole TEAM of Babylon emplyees that one of them turns out to be in the spy team so not an easy sacrifice, for what?! Basically to fool one of her own agents into WHAT exactly?! WHY this level of prep against someone who DID NOT matter for freaking years?! It doesn't make sense and makes her a cheap shot madwoman with no meaning.)

Power hungry how? She's a regional chief and needs a stupid app to make money for... what? Buy take-out?

A good villain has actual reasons, not just trope motives. If they made her just an A-type OCD person who HAS to have everything in order, she'd have been more interesting.

Bale had enough brain to wait out his enemy, to plot a complex enough plot to take out his whole family and group of friends ('cause it wasn't just Honda gone that day), and a good reason to do it - his eye, among other things. He was a vicious, cold-hearted killer, but he did make sense. Kusanagi is just window dressing.
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Replying to The boyfriend Aug 7, 2026
Please someone that already saw ep14, tell me that Qing Tian is still alive🙏😭
There are some suspiciously auspicious hints things aren't finished already, but it's nothing definite yet. But ChangYang's on a hunt in the primeval forest still.
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Replying to ShortCircuit Aug 7, 2026
Wait, OMG, there's no body?! If there's anything drama ever taught me is that if there's no body there's no death.…
So there's no body and ChangYang is still looking in a freaking primeval forest?! And he DIDN'T get killed by bears and he DID promise WenShu he'll come back! I don't want to jinx it so I won't say it but I guess we're all thinking it. *keeping fingers crossed*

Chen Zhu's parents are still scum though. And what's the freaking influencer's problem anyway? I wish him a nasty rash in the middle of livestreaming.

The ~sponsor~ is truly shameless but to my surprise, HanYu isn't all the way scum, even if their spats are so funny LOL, like a small kitten (Lu) hissing and posing, and an idiot little doggie (Yu) storming away only to come back with his tail between his legs LOL. I didn't like the CP so much before, but they're growing on me.

But man oh man, only two eps left, and ChangYang keeping secrets from QingLang, I hope it's not a fake move to fool us...

I WANT TO BELIEVE, like, seriously drama, I've been moping around all week!!!! Don't do this to me!

ETA

Wait a minute. WHAT IF. QingTian ASKED ChangYang to help him escape for a while, to order his thoughts?!

What if ChangYang DID find him (and got back that suspiciously clean shoe as proof) and then decided to let him go away for a while and manage his own emotions?

The level of TOTAL DESTRUCTION I'd cause if that turns out to be true!!!!! QingLang, if they did this to all of you, I'll hold CY down for you to spank!!!! And then QT too!!
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