If you are South Korean and left wing then you should go to the North where these ideas are very accepted.Otherwise,…
I am not Korean on any side of the border - why does it matter? The STATE should work for the betterment of the CITIZENS. Not the corporations and oligarchs. That is all. Is that left-wing? Then I'm left-wing (again, not that it matters).
The SK is probably still shocked over the support Yoon got from the right-wing US of A, when keeping him in power after his attack on the parliament and declaring martial law would have gotten them at least a try at a nuclear attack from NK. I guess seeing their anti-aerian defenses broken down to be moved over the Iran side of the new all-American war their great "allies" just started will help South Koreans become even more entrenched in their beliefs LOL.
Guys i am a bit confused with a ending credit part....Park Seo Joon character is from NIS right? So ... is he…
MinBeom's uncle put him and his side-kick at the disposal of MinBeom, who asked for an assassination. But since they got BaekJeong, they faked his dead corpse and just recruited him into helping to break up the initial and ongoing financiers of the IKFC (and the drug trade that went with it) in Asia. So... win-win. As long as Baek Jeong doesn't escape and just come back to GunWoo to finish the job.
This is so dumb. "Are you left wing?" "Are all celebrities left-wing?" Hell YEAH they should be (even if some are definitely not, and very vocal about it, CSW, I'm looking at you).
I mean, what the hell is state FOR if not for the betterment of its citizens?! Why the F would we all (basically EVERYBODY save some few thousand billionaires and so throughout the whole freaking WORLD) just get together and create states and cultures if not for ALL of us to live a better life?!
Plus, just for the idiots attacking him - it's one thing to one-sidedly declare martial law in the region and put your own capital at risk ('cause it's in the range of nuclear/tactical weapons should NK decide it's time to end it all), and another for the OTHER reckless, headless rogue super power to one-sidedly try to start WWIII to cover up for its orange leader pedophilia and as a by-effect close the only way for some 20% of world's oil traffic to reach its customers. Both are as stupid decisions as they come, both from right-wing leaders - what, are those knetz so blind not to see WHO exactly caused these problems, both times? Like... WTF. Inflation doesn't freaking feed on sunlight.
You know one thing that REALLY pissed me off??? đĄIt doesn't have to do with the drama itself but with Netflix.…
NF never translates the honorifics though, in kdramas or cdramas either. One who hasn't picked up a few words here and there could never even tell they're not saying each other's names most of the times, but using honorifics or very specific titles. In kdramas, NF doesn't even differentiate banmal from formal address anywhere (which leads to certain strangely-formed TLs and/or loses in-language jokes and innuendos).
TBH, this is less than S1. I don't care about the post-credits scene, NF (and others who produce or finance dramas)…
What the hell is wrong with GunWoo, why did they make him such a wuss?! He WAS kind of shy and starry-eyed in S1, but here he's a total wimp. He cries for anything, he needs pep talks for every battle, he's ready to give up at the slightest problem etc.
And at the same time they make BaekJeong the strongest, undefeatable opponent only for him to devolve into uncontrolled insanity (for reasons) then get his mind back and accept working with the NIS agents (because why?) Also while the Marine brotherhood and all got brownie points in the first season, here they were... made smaller somehow. So one of them is an underground money lender and recuperator, the other is a bloodhound himself, having also killed people (good people, he says) and did they just forget MinBeom's cousin in his ER bed after getting one too many knocks in the head?
The first season, despite the obvious cuts around KSR, made a lot more sense and felt a lot more diverse, both in the kind of fights they got into, and in the manner they were solved. Here it's just illegal MMA (or some derivative of boxing, not quite MMA) and that's it. Like GunWoo is the only good fighter around etc. And WooJin suddenly can't even hold his own in a fight for too long...
So yeah. I don't really expect there'll be a third season of this. But oh well. It wasn't THAT bad.
TBH, this is less than S1. I don't care about the post-credits scene, NF (and others who produce or finance dramas) should finally learn that NOT every villain deserves a redemption arc (or chance) and even if we like the actor, we don't really need for a character's second (or third or fourth) chance.
Everybody became a crybaby somehow, and the police was kind of way too emotional. The ones I actually liked were the cold-blooded NIS agents not caring about anything and getting the spoils while barely lifting a finger.
No but what the hell are those walls made of, plaster and paper?! This is so American-like. Do they even have that kind of not-actually-a-wall things in SK?!
"They mean to kill their golden goose"... That's exactly what communism does... Sadly...
LOL, what they have (and had) was never communism. You guys better get informed into what communism ACTUALLY is supposed to be and not the anti-socialism propaganda that's been fed into Western countries.
Communism: there is NO private property (not even housing), all the means of production are common, everybody contributes what they can and receive what they need. That's the textbook definition. Its leadership is collective and nobody amasses any wealth.
Socialism is a broader from-the-people-for-the-people school of thought, of which communism was supposed to be part of but was NEVER achieved. What the Soviets had was mostly Leninism, a kind of a precursor of communism, that had leading classes over the working class, and when the USSR fell, it and its umbrella countries allowed that leading class (that had become deeply corrupt interim) to change into a class of oligarchs that STILL ruled directly or indirectly, despite the pretense of moving toward capitalism.
The other half of socialism is social democracy, that had a pretty nice success in the Scandinavian countries that we take now as some of the best places to live in on this planet. While the original thought was that there shouldn't be any centralised leadership and everything is also collective, social democracy decided there should be property and rights and all BUT the center of progress should help the PEOPLE, not the corporations or JUST the owner class. (That's why you have everyday propaganda through media controlled by that owner class that tells you each and every minute you'll be happy and FREE if you just lose all your social protections and social safety nets and trust that the owner class will care for you and keep you around, because "who would use their products otherwise". For all the duped people - take a look at the AI implementation in EVERYTHING and what that causes for the working people. You might be surprised how little YOU personally are needed for the owner class to keep living their own safe lives.)
What the CHINESE had was a copy of Marxism-Leninism viewed through a dark lens depending on who the ruler of the day was. Mao ZeDong was one of the foremost visible leaders of it and probably now XJP wants to carve his name in history like MZD or something. What China is today is, despite the famines and brutal supression of civil movements and all - is due in large part to a central leadership that DID take all measures possible to take the country from basically late feudalism into what it is now - everything capitalism provides financially, China also has, and that's for 1.5 BILLION people. Just compare it to the other super-peopled country that's right next to it - India, the world's "largest democracy" at least in numbers - and see what the CCCP managed to do in 100 years, starting from about the same place if not a worse one than India.
This is not an apology for what the CCCP is doing to its own citizens or in the countries where they're going with their Road and Belt initiatives. What I'm trying to say is - it's not simple and easily reduced to "let the people free to do whatever they want" when you're talking about around 19% of the world's population. It's not "communism always does that" - communism wouldn't even have the means to touch something like what China did create over 70 years of modernising China (even if through suppression and murder and all other means a lot of times).
/political rant ends here.
Anyway, XJP is still an idiot (not literally, he seems to usually be quite clever) who might over-reach at some point. I know they're facing a fall in demographics brought about by their own old one-child policy, and that's on them. They're veering as hard as they can in order to convince young people to have kids, not be gay (or just hide it by having a family and kids), just multiply enough that an ever-growing economy miracle keeps happening (and BTW that's a capitalist concept, this infinite growth), and that they won't fall in the same trap that all evolved countries eventually get into.
1. They mean to kill their golden goose. Chinese dramas are the ones that actually make Western audiences LIKE any Chinese media. I guess they're going to censor and invent new rules until nothing appeals to a larger audience than an older and more bored national public and that's that. Oh well. Maybe that's their whole idea.
2. On a more closer-to-reality side... is making soldiers look like soldiers in drama meant to start another patriotic push and present the army as a way of advancing in life? In that case... I am guessing they mean to actually make a move on Taiwan soon enough and need some ready-made "patriotism" by that time.
PS XJP should be really careful (not that he doesn't know it, probably). You can't keep pushing the lid down when things start boiling. Something's eventually going to give.
As a side to what had been discussed (as in an offered opinion by your interlocutor), they've got most everything kind of twisted. Because 1. There IS no love relationship between LXC (Lan WangJi's older brother) and MY (Meng Yao), despite them being presented in just ONE instance as having a strage interaction. In the novel (and aside that one instance, in the drama) there is NOTHING else to suggest they are in any way shape or manner, lovers. They are supposed (by LXC) to be zhÄ«jÇ (ç„ć·±), which is something different and does not include a romantic relationship.
And then there's 2. All the women in the drama are basically superfluous in the novel. The way their characters were developed respect the general ideas in the short form presented in the plot, BUT most of it is new compared to the original material (particularly Mme Yu, YanLi and Wen Qing.) So to say that the drama plot had any intention of making some grand (or understated) statement based on this being a work written by women for women re: male love... is kind of really stretching it for a bit.
3. The actual relationship between the lead characters IS very much like portrayed in the novel (allowing some small changes). There is NO PDA and no implied respective love in the novel until the very last chapters (because WWX is totally oblivious and LWJ is completely non-expressive). "WYB's acting" is just fitting the character - he is not one given to any emotional displays (basically only WWX usually manages to get his feathers visibly ruffled). The actual reveal is one of the climaxes of the novel, too, and if you're so inclined, I do recommend the novel for all the actually danmei bits.
4. What danmei is and how it differs from Western BL (or even other kinds of MM romances) is a subject worth talking about. And yes, there are visible differences. Though TBH, while rare, pairings where the men switch (both can top or bottom, from time to time) do exist. In MDZS, it's true that LWJ is the definite top (gong) and WWX is the definite bottom (shou) but they are still MALE. There is no hint of WWX being in any way female just because he's the shou. The part where danmei (like most BL writing, TBH) is a way for women to explore their sexuality is also true.
Then again, everyone will take whatever catches their interest in any drama :D
(1st ep only)I didn't expect this to be so action-packed. First ep is good, the BGM is amazing, YAN AN!!!! *heart…
Wait, did I see it right, is there another character that TJR plays who MIGHT be the actually fated one for JJY's character?!
I like their dumb-and-dumber act, LOL, TJR and YA are so nice together (and YA still has those smouldering dark looks from FoF. I approve).
I don't yet get the story - so everybody's either a fox or hunting down a fox etc. But why? (Borrowing a line from famous villains LOL) Can't mankind and heart-ripping foxes learn to coexist?!
I think this won't get too deep into feelings but will probably work on action and friendship / setting up forbidden romances. I'm okay with that.
Anyway, more Yan An is always too little Yan An. Let's have him in the picture more LOL.
I didn't expect this to be so action-packed. First ep is good, the BGM is amazing, YAN AN!!!! *heart eyes* (if they kill off his character in the drama I'll go present a petition to the company in person LOL).
OMG did CDL look so beautiful in that red wedding gown!!
3 
The SK is probably still shocked over the support Yoon got from the right-wing US of A, when keeping him in power after his attack on the parliament and declaring martial law would have gotten them at least a try at a nuclear attack from NK. I guess seeing their anti-aerian defenses broken down to be moved over the Iran side of the new all-American war their great "allies" just started will help South Koreans become even more entrenched in their beliefs LOL.
I mean, what the hell is state FOR if not for the betterment of its citizens?! Why the F would we all (basically EVERYBODY save some few thousand billionaires and so throughout the whole freaking WORLD) just get together and create states and cultures if not for ALL of us to live a better life?!
Plus, just for the idiots attacking him - it's one thing to one-sidedly declare martial law in the region and put your own capital at risk ('cause it's in the range of nuclear/tactical weapons should NK decide it's time to end it all), and another for the OTHER reckless, headless rogue super power to one-sidedly try to start WWIII to cover up for its orange leader pedophilia and as a by-effect close the only way for some 20% of world's oil traffic to reach its customers. Both are as stupid decisions as they come, both from right-wing leaders - what, are those knetz so blind not to see WHO exactly caused these problems, both times? Like... WTF. Inflation doesn't freaking feed on sunlight.
That's just how they operate.
And at the same time they make BaekJeong the strongest, undefeatable opponent only for him to devolve into uncontrolled insanity (for reasons) then get his mind back and accept working with the NIS agents (because why?) Also while the Marine brotherhood and all got brownie points in the first season, here they were... made smaller somehow. So one of them is an underground money lender and recuperator, the other is a bloodhound himself, having also killed people (good people, he says) and did they just forget MinBeom's cousin in his ER bed after getting one too many knocks in the head?
The first season, despite the obvious cuts around KSR, made a lot more sense and felt a lot more diverse, both in the kind of fights they got into, and in the manner they were solved. Here it's just illegal MMA (or some derivative of boxing, not quite MMA) and that's it. Like GunWoo is the only good fighter around etc. And WooJin suddenly can't even hold his own in a fight for too long...
So yeah. I don't really expect there'll be a third season of this. But oh well. It wasn't THAT bad.
Everybody became a crybaby somehow, and the police was kind of way too emotional. The ones I actually liked were the cold-blooded NIS agents not caring about anything and getting the spoils while barely lifting a finger.
All hail MinBeom though, he's still cool.
Communism: there is NO private property (not even housing), all the means of production are common, everybody contributes what they can and receive what they need. That's the textbook definition. Its leadership is collective and nobody amasses any wealth.
Socialism is a broader from-the-people-for-the-people school of thought, of which communism was supposed to be part of but was NEVER achieved. What the Soviets had was mostly Leninism, a kind of a precursor of communism, that had leading classes over the working class, and when the USSR fell, it and its umbrella countries allowed that leading class (that had become deeply corrupt interim) to change into a class of oligarchs that STILL ruled directly or indirectly, despite the pretense of moving toward capitalism.
The other half of socialism is social democracy, that had a pretty nice success in the Scandinavian countries that we take now as some of the best places to live in on this planet. While the original thought was that there shouldn't be any centralised leadership and everything is also collective, social democracy decided there should be property and rights and all BUT the center of progress should help the PEOPLE, not the corporations or JUST the owner class. (That's why you have everyday propaganda through media controlled by that owner class that tells you each and every minute you'll be happy and FREE if you just lose all your social protections and social safety nets and trust that the owner class will care for you and keep you around, because "who would use their products otherwise". For all the duped people - take a look at the AI implementation in EVERYTHING and what that causes for the working people. You might be surprised how little YOU personally are needed for the owner class to keep living their own safe lives.)
What the CHINESE had was a copy of Marxism-Leninism viewed through a dark lens depending on who the ruler of the day was. Mao ZeDong was one of the foremost visible leaders of it and probably now XJP wants to carve his name in history like MZD or something. What China is today is, despite the famines and brutal supression of civil movements and all - is due in large part to a central leadership that DID take all measures possible to take the country from basically late feudalism into what it is now - everything capitalism provides financially, China also has, and that's for 1.5 BILLION people. Just compare it to the other super-peopled country that's right next to it - India, the world's "largest democracy" at least in numbers - and see what the CCCP managed to do in 100 years, starting from about the same place if not a worse one than India.
This is not an apology for what the CCCP is doing to its own citizens or in the countries where they're going with their Road and Belt initiatives. What I'm trying to say is - it's not simple and easily reduced to "let the people free to do whatever they want" when you're talking about around 19% of the world's population. It's not "communism always does that" - communism wouldn't even have the means to touch something like what China did create over 70 years of modernising China (even if through suppression and murder and all other means a lot of times).
/political rant ends here.
Anyway, XJP is still an idiot (not literally, he seems to usually be quite clever) who might over-reach at some point. I know they're facing a fall in demographics brought about by their own old one-child policy, and that's on them. They're veering as hard as they can in order to convince young people to have kids, not be gay (or just hide it by having a family and kids), just multiply enough that an ever-growing economy miracle keeps happening (and BTW that's a capitalist concept, this infinite growth), and that they won't fall in the same trap that all evolved countries eventually get into.
Oh well. Sadly we live in interesting times.
1. They mean to kill their golden goose. Chinese dramas are the ones that actually make Western audiences LIKE any Chinese media. I guess they're going to censor and invent new rules until nothing appeals to a larger audience than an older and more bored national public and that's that. Oh well. Maybe that's their whole idea.
2. On a more closer-to-reality side... is making soldiers look like soldiers in drama meant to start another patriotic push and present the army as a way of advancing in life? In that case... I am guessing they mean to actually make a move on Taiwan soon enough and need some ready-made "patriotism" by that time.
PS XJP should be really careful (not that he doesn't know it, probably). You can't keep pushing the lid down when things start boiling. Something's eventually going to give.
And then there's 2. All the women in the drama are basically superfluous in the novel. The way their characters were developed respect the general ideas in the short form presented in the plot, BUT most of it is new compared to the original material (particularly Mme Yu, YanLi and Wen Qing.) So to say that the drama plot had any intention of making some grand (or understated) statement based on this being a work written by women for women re: male love... is kind of really stretching it for a bit.
3. The actual relationship between the lead characters IS very much like portrayed in the novel (allowing some small changes). There is NO PDA and no implied respective love in the novel until the very last chapters (because WWX is totally oblivious and LWJ is completely non-expressive). "WYB's acting" is just fitting the character - he is not one given to any emotional displays (basically only WWX usually manages to get his feathers visibly ruffled). The actual reveal is one of the climaxes of the novel, too, and if you're so inclined, I do recommend the novel for all the actually danmei bits.
4. What danmei is and how it differs from Western BL (or even other kinds of MM romances) is a subject worth talking about. And yes, there are visible differences. Though TBH, while rare, pairings where the men switch (both can top or bottom, from time to time) do exist. In MDZS, it's true that LWJ is the definite top (gong) and WWX is the definite bottom (shou) but they are still MALE. There is no hint of WWX being in any way female just because he's the shou. The part where danmei (like most BL writing, TBH) is a way for women to explore their sexuality is also true.
Then again, everyone will take whatever catches their interest in any drama :D
I hope you enjoy it so far :)
Rain's chara: I'll give you 1 billion Won.
GunWoo: *hesitating*
Rain's chara: Okay, I'll add 5 billion if you win.
WooJin: Wow, 15 billion Won!
That's Freakazoid level of jokes, LOL, I like it :D
I like their dumb-and-dumber act, LOL, TJR and YA are so nice together (and YA still has those smouldering dark looks from FoF. I approve).
I don't yet get the story - so everybody's either a fox or hunting down a fox etc. But why? (Borrowing a line from famous villains LOL) Can't mankind and heart-ripping foxes learn to coexist?!
I think this won't get too deep into feelings but will probably work on action and friendship / setting up forbidden romances. I'm okay with that.
Anyway, more Yan An is always too little Yan An. Let's have him in the picture more LOL.
I didn't expect this to be so action-packed. First ep is good, the BGM is amazing, YAN AN!!!! *heart eyes* (if they kill off his character in the drama I'll go present a petition to the company in person LOL).
OMG did CDL look so beautiful in that red wedding gown!!