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Replying to Hollybae5 Apr 30, 2023
Guangyan stays complaining about Yiyong but thoroughly knows his food habits and why he dislikes some food...
Yeah but he's instantly smitten with the doll, he's str8.
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Replying to ShortCircuit Apr 30, 2023
PYY: I called you, why didn't you answer?CGY: I didn't hear you...PYY: You gotta answer even if you don't hear…
I think the too-sweet-cake baker did it. I think he's somehow related to the other girl's mom bakery shop. And the missing girl's mom is kind of strange too... Could we please get a HE for this case? Though I don't have much hope :(
Are the dad and the co-worker having an affair?! They're so strangely awkwardly close with each other...

PS And I'm getting to really really enjoy the Chief and One-Per relationship LOL
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On Oh No! Here Comes Trouble Apr 30, 2023
PYY: I called you, why didn't you answer?
CGY: I didn't hear you...
PYY: You gotta answer even if you don't hear me!

LOL, he's expecting CGY to get psychic about him :D

Also PYY: 9 times 1 is 9, 9 times 2 is 18... OMG LOL. He can be so efortlessly funny :)

Why does CGY's light slap pack such a destroying force for PYY? :D
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Replying to Cicada Apr 29, 2023
If that demons are harming people then yeah its ok to kill them, if they are good ones then no, so i guess depends…
That's what I'm saying :)
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Replying to ShortCircuit Apr 29, 2023
Title Till the End of the Moon Spoiler
So if he killed the nightmare demon but didn't absorb her power he'd be a good guy in your eyes?If he killed the…
Yeah, xianxia Fox Demons don't, but the folklore they're based on don't present them as nice as we see them in modern stories.

((Fox demons (or húlí jīng 狐狸精) are almost routinely suspected of appearing in other guises with the intent to do harm, often to cause illness or death. The archetypal fox demon story has the fox appearing as a beautiful maiden. The older the fox, the more beautiful, and hence dangerous, the maiden.))

And I have no problem with making them more likeable, as long as there's always the understanding of their nature.

What of SJ though, then? She's not a fox. Why is her demonization acceptable (or fast-waltzed over)?

EDIT Wait, now that I thought about it, I do not like this appropriation of a known folklore symbol and whitewashing it to be more appealing to anyone. And it's precisely for this reason - the hu li jing is NOT a positive figure, EVER). But modern xianxia takes the cast of the demon and fills it with basically nonsense, thus emptying of any meaning beyond being a sexy seductress.

That being said, I have no power over novel authors or drama producers and they can write and produce whatever they want. I might even like the charas they create, as I like PR. But I can't accept the idea that this horrifying folklore monster is instead a nice, sexy misunderstood girl, because they are not. (I won't try to convince anyone else to change their own preferences though, because what anyone else likes is basically not my business LOL).
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Replying to Cicada Apr 29, 2023
If that demons are harming people then yeah its ok to kill them, if they are good ones then no, so i guess depends…
Yeah, that's the thing... Sadly, we all get legal systems, not justice systems (or what we would like to see as justice). I am not certain there's a perfect way to peace and normality (at least), but the world is what it is...
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Replying to ShortCircuit Apr 29, 2023
Title Till the End of the Moon Spoiler
So if he killed the nightmare demon but didn't absorb her power he'd be a good guy in your eyes?If he killed the…
Read my above comment on SJ's demonization. The drama team did present a more gray problem, and not just in the character that starts out being presumed evil either, but some of the viewers decided to focus on TTJ.

It can't stop you to take a minute and consider, anyway. How much is enough to justify anything? What does it depend on? Let's say a demon's work (we're talking about this particular drama in specific, not about demons in general or in the real world's religions) does NOT impact you but it impacts someone you never knew or had any reason to learn about, or even if you did, could never like. Do you consider destroying that demon as amoral? What if it DOES impact you or someone you love - would then destroying that demon be acceptable?

ANY xianxia demons are not actual human beings and are not generated from humans. They have nothing in common with humans. They are spirits of nature either being cultivated into positive things (like a dryad, for example, or actual fairies, pixies, etc) or evil things in the eyes of humans (like the actual daimon of the Greeks). They're not inherently bad, it's their nature making them do things that could harm humans that eventually makes them undesirable and dangerous. And most of the demons do hurt humans (or could care less if their actions hurt humans, which is basically the same thing).

So I can't really feel bad a fictional character is doing fictional bad things to other fictional characters, for fictional reasons. Because it's not a real-world thing (not the characters, but the actual problems). It's an entertainment thing.

And yes, TTJ is not squeaky clean, nor is SJ, nor is LSS, actually... I've no idea if this drama has any squeaky clean chara yet, at least until now.
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Replying to Cicada Apr 29, 2023
Title Till the End of the Moon Spoiler
If that demons are harming people then yeah its ok to kill them, if they are good ones then no, so i guess depends…
The laws are seriously the worst backup system you can present as an example for enforcing anything, LOL. (This is just because I like playing devil's advocate here - how about the KSA laws that keep people in actual slavery? How about US laws that allow child marriage? Some of which have been heavily protected lately despite tries to make them obsolete. How about the new anti-LGBT laws in Uganda, that would kill people who are homosexual if found out? How about the US laws that prevent abortion procedures for women who will die unless they get the procedure? How about the laws that allow Singapore, for example, to kill small-time drug dealers? How about any law that allows for the death penalty, even IF the legal process is flawed and quite a lot of the convicted are later cleared of those sentences?!)

Even in these modern times, the laws aren't all squeaky clean. Not even in the Western world, not to speak of other parts of the world.

We get the "semblance" of order, but there's no peace maintained in society only through the police forces.
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Replying to ShortCircuit Apr 29, 2023
Title Till the End of the Moon Spoiler
So if he killed the nightmare demon but didn't absorb her power he'd be a good guy in your eyes?If he killed the…
SJ became a demon and immediately killed a whole sect to create a weapon of mass destruction. She was initially a fairy water spirit, how come she demonized so fast?

Fox Demons are usually busy seducing people and eating their livers (yeah this drama's FD is a cute and sexy one but she didn't get those nine tails by being cute and pure).

And those are two demons we basically all like and can understand.

The point is - the are no completely good demons. That's the whole idea with a demon. Even if they (from time to time) do good things... it's not in their actual nature. Unless we squint really really hard (which we do, if we like those demons.)
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Replying to ShortCircuit Apr 29, 2023
Title Till the End of the Moon Spoiler
The YiYue tribe have a contract (kind of) with the Ancient Devil God. They give him a child as a vessel to reincarnate,…
I myself haven't read the novel. The novel readers in this comment section though have repeatedly explained that the Bo'Re Life (the dream arc) is NOT the past lives of the characters, and frankly, the drama (with no relation to the novel), really does make this point very specifically.

There is one very clear explanation that gods DO NOT have souls that reincarnate, because they are pure divine essence that either gets destroyed (if they're in a battle for example) or returned to nature as spiritual energy.

So the fact we do or do not accept the explanation that this arc is not a reincarnation sequence doesn't have any impact on the actual plot of the drama. You could make your own explanation, though, I mean, who's going to say no? The scriptwriter did their job and I don't think they mind anyone making a variant of the tale...
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Replying to ShortCircuit Apr 29, 2023
So if he killed the nightmare demon but didn't absorb her power he'd be a good guy in your eyes?If he killed the…
I mean, they ARE called demons (with everything that implies). And this is xianxia, not politically-corrected real world. If you try to apply modern ethics to any xianxia, there won't be much left to show in it.

I am not in the mood to hold a whole ethics course here, but this is the thing (making an analogy, I'm hoping it makes sense to other people). It's like what the Romans did with their ancient circuses. They pretended the arena was the world, surrounded by Rome, and all the barbarians and wild nature who got in the arena were eventually conquered or controlled by Rome. In fiction, presenting things that might not get a pass in the real world, is dealing with those issues SAFELY. You get to point and say - well, it's not RIGHT that he gets to eat demons who did nothing wrong (or not to him anyway) and we should see him as a hero. NO you shouldn't see him as a hero, but then he's a fictional character you can judge, in a very strict and controlled environment where most of the details are not even presented (it would take too much time). He has no actual impact on real world and real morality issues. The FACT you recognize that there's a moral problem is the whole idea. You HAVE to realise that he's imperfect, and identify his issues, and judge him on THOSE. And then move on with your life with a bit more experience (not gained by direct exposure, but imagined and internalised) that might be of use in the future. It's how empathy works (even for an adversarial figure).

This one is not a particularly good example of moralising fiction, given it's more of a dogblooded romance that's made for a more basic entertainment (which doesn't mean it's badly done or low-morals, it just is what it is.) But fictional worlds are NOT lessons but examples. What you take from them is what YOU make of them and it actually says more about yourself than about the drama.

I said I wouldn't give an applied ethics lesson, sorry if it comes as patronising, it definitely isn't my intention.
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Replying to Micha Apr 29, 2023
FOOD for THOUGHT: For those who think TTJ is not evil, have you ever thought about where he gets his powers from?…
So if he killed the nightmare demon but didn't absorb her power he'd be a good guy in your eyes?

If he killed the Ancient Devil God's minions but didn't absorb their power, he'd still be a good guy?

If he killed any twisted humans - like TTML for example - but had no power to absorb from him, he's a good guy?

What are the standards for a good guy? Does he have to be immaculate in morals to be appreciated?

(Not going to bring in the discussion the Fox Demon either.)
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Replying to ShortCircuit Apr 29, 2023
Title Till the End of the Moon Spoiler
The YiYue tribe have a contract (kind of) with the Ancient Devil God. They give him a child as a vessel to reincarnate,…
Ming Ye doesn't necessarily look like TTJ. Obviously in the drama they use the same actor, LOL, but in the story it's not needed. LYX is playing MY too because it's easier for the viewers to understand that TTJ is dreaming MY's life, and not Xiao Lin, for example (who was also caught in the dream with them).

TTJ is not MY's reincarnation. He IS the Ancient Devil God's vessel to reincarnate.
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Replying to YourCuteOppa Apr 29, 2023
Title Reset Spoiler
The story was good but inconsistent with some plot holes. It started right away when they introduced Lu Di, how…
Lu Di got on too late, the only repeaters were those already on the bus when the bomb got on (a station before Lu Di's). So he didn't get to repeat with the others.

Also, the only two charas who seemed to be aware of the loop are those who are asleep when the first loop happens, anyway.
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Replying to SandraNoLie Apr 29, 2023
Title Till the End of the Moon Spoiler
It is. You have here all songs and instrumentals. Also you have on the same channel other play list with just…
I've no idea. They said something from ep 25, I'm assuming some piece of BGM nobody paid attention to, LOL, except for those complaining.

I don't really care about it, though, it looks like it's more busy-making, the production seems to have replaced it maybe because they don't want to make waves til the drama finishes airing.

IF there's any plagiarising, the guilty party should get what they deserve, but again, it's been too short a time for it to be anything more than an accusation, so far.

I might as well pretend that I wrote the actual novel and the author plagiarised it from me, and it could be repeated until it's disproven, but that would take time. Until it's proven, and a legal decision made, I will take any slander on anything (for any media, not just this drama) with a huge grain of salt.
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Replying to ShortCircuit Apr 29, 2023
Title Till the End of the Moon Spoiler
It WASN'T a dream as in, it did happen, ten thousand years ago. It IS a dream, as in, the people caught in the…
Ming Ye (dragon) and Sang Jiu (water fairy) are NOT the past lives of Tantai Jin and Li SuSu/YeXiWu.

The dragon TTJ, YXW and the other two characters visited is what remained of Ming Ye (he became God of War after cultivating, but his original form is a Flood Dragon, just as SJ's original form is a Sweetwater Clam). The dragon's remaining qi (energy) is used to trap the 4 people into his (the dragon's) dream of his past life, where he was the God of War and had to fight the Ancient Devil God, and also had a tragic love affair with SJ.

The dream was supposed to provide some help to the characters:

1. teach TTJ what love is and how not to waste his chance at love
2. give LSS a chance to get a tear from TTJ (that she has to use as one of three artifacts in order to create a weapon to get the Devil Bone from TTJ's body) and
3. show us (the viewers) how the Ancient Devil God fell, why he looks like TTJ (actually, more like why TTJ looks like ADG), how the Immortal Realm's Mt. BuZhao came to exist, and how the ultimate weapons are created - the Bone Refining Seal is going to matter a lot in this final arc of the story.

But again, MY and SJ are not the past lives of TTJ and LSS.

I hope this time I explained it more completely.
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Replying to KinnPorsche Apr 29, 2023
These are my thoughts and can be quite controversial, so-Quite frankly i dont see Susu's love. I see her dedication…
After coming back to the Immortal Realm, she seems to allow herself to feel love again. I'll wait and see.
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Replying to ShortCircuit Apr 29, 2023
It WASN'T a dream as in, it did happen, ten thousand years ago. It IS a dream, as in, the people caught in the…
There are reincarnations in xianxia too, it's just that this particular case is not one of them.

This is not a takedown of anyone's religion or cultural beliefs, I find it strange to have hit such a sensitive point when talking about a fictional set of characters. I did not intend to amuse myself with other people's questions, but to actually offer some explanation. If it's not enough, or not clear enough, it's definitely my fault for not finding the right words or maybe assuming some common share of knowledge on this topic.

Anyway, I hope you're enjoying the drama. Have a nice day!
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Replying to Micha Apr 29, 2023
TTJ also had a brief stint as the Little Mermaid. 😂😂😂 I still have hair envy from that.
MAN. Merman. Except he can't swim (evidence in the episode, LOL, he just kind of waddles LOL).
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Replying to Natalia Bronk Apr 29, 2023
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I am confused...Is TTJ the Demon God in the end or he just have same face?
The YiYue tribe have a contract (kind of) with the Ancient Devil God. They give him a child as a vessel to reincarnate, and he gives them something in return (they didn't say what, probably the ability to talk to animals that some or most of them seem to have).

TTJ is that child. He was always going to become DG's vessel to reincarnate, so the Devil Bone was in him since birth. That's why they look alike - TTJ got ADG's face since he's going to become DG anyway.

If he actually becomes the reincarnated DG again, or not remains to be seen.
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