Payback wanted to convey - Sometimes the greatest payback isn't making others sufferβit's freeing yourself from…
Literally this! Also reminder that it is playing in Thailand, origin in Korea, and neither countries main religions are into revenge. Thailand is Buddhistic and that teaches moving on and / or forgiveness (for your own sake). And we also had Pakin / Boss spell it out in one episode that the best revenge is being happier than the people who harmed you. Him winning despite his mentor not believing in him and then sitting in front of his winning photo. Is literally parallel to Sun getting kissed and chosen by Jay in front of Sunny at the end.
Ummmm.... I don't know about Jay's non-consensual touching and kissing Sun without permission. Did you see Sun…
Also Sun literally has dubcon fantasy about Jay when he first met him in Alice office. A fantasy where he gives in after a moment of struggling and that is JaySuns whole deal the whole time. Jay senses that because Sun reacts to his seductive actions but Sun forbids himself to get into it. Plus the fact that Sun always has a knife in his poket.
when they eventually release that song. but now i am scared T_T i want it to be just a remix english version. but i bet iqiyi is behind all the AI use this series, they try to push it....
it was AI apparently, not CGI which is even worse π
i have the theory that they maybe are bound to a sponsor who had that as contract condition π that's why it's "just" the intro and the last minute. like no sane producer / director would greenlight that ugly frame when the rest of the series looked so good... there isn't even shadow on the sand...
You know it's a gay romance; just stop watching as soon as you see one of them has a girlfriend if you're so easily…
that's an unnecessary comment. just because the mains have girlfriends from the start doesn't automatically mean that they cheat. they could have had a break up before getting involved with each other. it's irrelevant what you think of the topic. a trigger warning for stuff that is triggering has it's purpose, so people who can't watch it can exclude it from their watch list before starting it.
Why does every film showcase satanism like it's a dangerous cult π I swear I dont sacrifice people... Anyway…
try to see it as fantasy satanism or the few satanists who did mess up real big in the past π I have the same issue whenever goths, visual kei or punks are part of a story and it's shown like some cringe, edgy, violent teen phase... instead of the subculture that it is (sad fun fact: just recently read a headline that the goth scene has barely any new younger members anymore... we are slowly dying out lol)
The cinematography, OST and acting were brilliant. Haven't seen any other BL of such high production from China.
What about 4Minutes and Dead Friend Forever?? They were amazing too from BOC. That said BOC and gmmtv are really NOT the only well producing companies out there. There are so many! Especially from companies that are new or not so well known come so many good shows that are so underrated, it's sad that everyone just goes for the most popular ones and the the less popular ones drown even though they are good too.
If anyone is interested in more good shows I have a bunch of collection lists on my account, sorted by different themes.
Maybe a stupid question... But when asked what the tattoo on Suns', back is.. Sun says he doesn't know.... But…
He was lying because he doesn't want to talk about it. I guess the S is for his brother's name "Sky" maybe the sun is himself or his mother all together it can also mean his own name. like in a double meaning only he knows but keep for himself maybe. depends on when he got it. If he got it before the deaths then maybe it's really just his name
maybe because they already know each other and have history together π€·ββοΈ
Spoiler for episode 5:
Their relationship is part of the mystery and crime case. There is a reason why he didn't tell him about searching through the apartment, which came out in episode 5 now: he is actually the murderer of the guy his boss is the main suspect of. So his boss might not even know he was there.
And them not needing to talk just shows to the audience that they know each other well enough to understand each other nonverbally and that they have a routine. Which is probably a routine for mistakes / boss is mad. The BJ was more some kind of punishment or compensation for being late to their meeting. Because in episode 5 it's similar. Boss wasn't happy that henchman didn't find any valuable information and just nodded to the freezer and henchman went in there punishing himself till he got let out again (then they had make-up sex).
It all comes together bit by bit.
The reason why the guy might have killed his bosses uncle behind his bosses back could either be because he wanted to help him get richer and it backfired a bit or he really wanted to frame him deliberately. Either way maybe because he's not so happy with their boss - servant relationship... Is my guess.
nah. a good director takes the medium into account. Maybe it may work as a film, but as a series, this doesn't…
it's not the best pacing and editing which I give to the short airing time. but it's also not the worst. I still can follow what's happening and like the topic and vibe.
maybe because they already know each other and have history together π€·ββοΈ
they are a crime boss and his henchman who have some dom sub thing going on since years apparently (more revealed now in episode 5). they understand each other without words in that mode, like boss just needs to look at him or a nod and henchman already knows what to do
i see a lot of people still can't handle mystery thriller not serving every information at once (the point of mystery is that you don't know anything and have to collect the informations as they drop through the story till it's revealed in the end)
in the last weeks the subtitles of many series are really bad. Not alle sentences are translated.
Bet they use AI to translate and then mistakes like that happen when the AI can't recognise it properly.... or the constant censoring of "bad" words in shows that are 15+ or even 18+ because all translator aps are censored nowadays regardless of how old you are.... like what they translate as "Dummy" in Payback is actually "Crazy Bastard".... One sounds like a pre school banter and the other actually fits the characters tone as it should be. It is so ridiculous. They should at least have someone to prove read those in comparison with the source.
and cheating is a real big topic in this one
If anyone is interested in more good shows I have a bunch of collection lists on my account, sorted by different themes.
Their relationship is part of the mystery and crime case. There is a reason why he didn't tell him about searching through the apartment, which came out in episode 5 now: he is actually the murderer of the guy his boss is the main suspect of. So his boss might not even know he was there.
And them not needing to talk just shows to the audience that they know each other well enough to understand each other nonverbally and that they have a routine. Which is probably a routine for mistakes / boss is mad. The BJ was more some kind of punishment or compensation for being late to their meeting. Because in episode 5 it's similar. Boss wasn't happy that henchman didn't find any valuable information and just nodded to the freezer and henchman went in there punishing himself till he got let out again (then they had make-up sex).
It all comes together bit by bit.
The reason why the guy might have killed his bosses uncle behind his bosses back could either be because he wanted to help him get richer and it backfired a bit or he really wanted to frame him deliberately. Either way maybe because he's not so happy with their boss - servant relationship... Is my guess.