Xien_Rue

What about Ying Yuan forehead? Are you talking about the his god mark?

I see your point of view. Thank you for your elaboration. Still, if it is as you say, then in a way 90% post here made during drama airing should have been under spoiler. I will try better for my future writing. But, for this one above, I will leave it as it is for now until I find other person who is disturbed by it. I am sorry for my stubbornness regarding this.

Honestly, ever since I decide to be active in this kind of forum, I am always annoyed by those who always complained of being spoiled. So, I kind of .... trying to probe the boundary in a way. Please do let me probing things out using this post of mine. I do not wish to be an inconsiderate user with spewing spoiler left and right nor I wish to be an overly caution user by using spoiler tag all the time. Because as I see it, if someone cannot handle a "little leak" as you say it in an essay post about character analysis, then they should not come to the forum discussion at all.

Ying Yuan somewhat already explained to her why their love cannot come into being on the bridge of emptiness. But, if you have watched until episode 17 at least, you would have known what Yan Dan answer to him. At this point of time, both are at fault of their failed romance. Yan Dan is just too young. Her way of thinking is too small still to be able to consider the whole world. Yan Dan really give a limited option to Ying Yuan since she truly cannot answer of her whereabout. She thought that she can do anything and Ying Yuan will clean up her mess. It has been that way, ever since the beginning.

On the other hand, Ying Yuan is too logical in his approach. Even though looking from his background, it is understandable. He lives in such abstinence for millenniums. He is not used to show his love in open way and he is far far more used to endure silently than Yan Dan. So, he feels this kind of sacrifice and silent love is good enough while it is not for Yan Dan.

Hmm, I understand your concern. But, I humbly ask, do my post really contained spoiler? I tried my best to only share the thought without spoiling the real event happened in the drama. I am asking so that I know what people think when they read this kind of essay of post so I can revise my writing in the future. Because I hope that new viewer that come to this page to check whether this drama is worth or not, can see the analysis from us that already watch it; so they can see what this drama about. If all heavy discussion should be under spoiler, then people who are so paranoid of spoiler will never read it and might end up thinking this is a shallow drama.

Yes! I agree that the problem is rooted in their gap of thinking. Ying Yuan is seeing romance from mature point of view. He does not think that even though they love each other, they must act on it in straightforward manner. While Yan Dan in her youth, cannot see things clearly yet. All she knows is that she loves this man and she demands they act on it on her terms.

I know she is so loving to everybody and such selfless person, but if we see from another POV, she is selfish somewhat. She loves in a way best according to her, and never thought that her way may not be the best for the other party involved. We can see that from her way helping Zhi Xi. And now we see it again in her dealing with Ying Yuan.

It will be very interesting to see her development later on in the drama. Based on the trailer, I suspect she will later on choose to abandon her personal happiness living with Tang Zhou in mortal realm so he can return to heavenly realm for the sake of all realms. I think it is only when Yan Dan learn to sacrifice not to have her love for the sake of others, that she will get the very love she craves. In the drama premise, it is impossible for Yan Dan to force her way with Ying Yuan. You shall not guilt trip him with gratitude or you will only end up with his shell, not his whole person. To get someone like Ying Yuan, you truly need to do extra mile, hahahaha.

Finally finish watching up to episode 18. Some good acting from Cheng Yi here. He doesn't need to say anything and my heart already hurt ..... Ying Yuan character is very much into my liking. A love that does not throw away responsibility. Too many drama out there where the ML throwing everything including his responsibility for FL, end up disappointing everyone and bring a disaster upon innocent people. With great power come great responsibility. This sentence from Spiderman rings true even in real life. If Ying Yuan ever chooses Yan Dan over his responsibility, he will end up bitter and live in guilt for his entire life. Their love is doomed to fail with the current Yan Dan character.

Yang Zi is okay. However, I am not yet moved by her Yan Dan. Perhaps, part of it is caused by my dislike of this kind of young love. I can understand where Yan Dan coming from. But, even she should have known that her love would bring them nowhere. She cannot possibly ask Ying Yuan to throw everything including three realms, usurp the heavenly throne just to be with her?! I think she is more heartbroken because Ying Yuan refuses to make their dream into reality. All she want is that Ying Yuan to recognize their love to each other, consequences be damned. Her words toward Ying Yuan on the Bridge of Emptiness truly put me off.

I hope Yan Dan will mature up during her time in mortal realm. I wish her to realize that the man she loves is not a nobody; someone that whose action will not affecting myriad living being. If she is indeed loving Ying Yuan, then she will need to accept his burden and responsibility too since those are parts of him. Moreover, I hope she can live for herself instead for her sister in the future. Zhi Xi disgust me with her inferiority complex and victim mentality.

Also, I agree that the editing of episode 18 is bad. They should not cut the river of forgetfulness scene and switch to scene with dragon clan. Anyway, I love the dragon princess, Zhao Lan. Finally a female character that is not so hung up on her unrequited love.

Hahahahahah!! I read your comment in Cheng Yi actor page in MDL. I can see you hate her so much. Judging by your comments, I take that you are quite active in Chinese social media like weibo, douyin, and the like?! It seems that the way Chinese people and international fans treat their celebrity are different. I see multiple times that actor/actress that kind of being blacklisted in China still get lots of support internationally.

To be fair, it was not her fault to be invited to that fan meet in the end. But, I disliked how then she acted as a victim during the meet. Also, the CP fans back then were truly unreasonable. They literally thought it was Cheng Yi responsibility to pacify Yuan Bing Yuan sadness. Like .... hello, he is not Yu Si Feng and Yuan Bing Yuan is not Chu Xuan Ji.

I hope there will be no CP fans ever created upon this drama. I have enough of it. Not to mention LAR, those BL drama like The Untamed and Word of Honor, all suffered through CP fans craziness. I really cannot understand why people love to bring their ship to real life.

Eh? Which long post? Please do not delete it next time. Long post containing watcher think is precious. I would love to read all of user's long post here.

I can understand your thought. I, too, somehow annoyed watching the constant mopping. Like if you decide to support your sister lie, then accept your decision and its consequences. But, I also understand Yan Dan personality. She is torn between her love toward her sister and her wish of being together with Ying Yuan. This creates such a frustration deep inside her which expressed as her "throwing tantrum" to Ying Yuan and keep on mopping.

I hope to see her grow up in this drama so she can be more decisive and able to see things from bigger picture.

These days, majority of dramas are novel adaptation. And those novel are somewhat similar with each other in certain part so ......

Still, I love this drama. I don't care of its trope similarity with others since watching two actor/actress with great acting skill as lead is so so enjoyable. I will take this to wash all my disappointment during my xianxia watching all these years. If possible, I want these two to repeat all those great xianxia dramas that annoyed me because of bad acting from one or both lead. Not to mention these two have looks that very suitable for xianxia.

Yeah, that moment was really bad. At that time, I was already quite annoyed with Yuan Bing Yuan because of her acting in the final arc of LAR. Then that fan meet happened. I knew that Yuan Bing Yuan was added rather late to the meeting layout but never in my wildest dream that thing would devolve to that way back then.

Moreover, the CP fans was so hung out to this pairing as if Cheng Yi can only have chemistry with Yuan Bing Yuan. So crazy.

I think that kind of thing will not happen with this drama. Thank to the "fan war" in early stage of this drama, I honestly think (even though all of us are cool by now) that both Cheng Yi fans and Yang Zi fans will feel too proud to ship the CP in real life, hahahaha. Both side are confident in their own idol and have no need to milk CP.

Correct! At this point of time, any admittance from Ying Yuan will only fire Yan Dan more to hold on of her wish of having romantic relationship with him; which can lead to her death.

Thank you for writing this. I think people who are hating on Ying Yuan is just seeing things from FL POV. In my opinion, at this point of time, Yan Dan is akin of young woman falling in love. She loves fiercely and cannot think anything but her love and why Ying Yuan cannot reciprocate her love. She can care less about her beloved identity and responsibility as all she wants is that Ying Yuan to look at her and fulfilling their dream into reality.

The problem is that here their love bloom before its time. Yan Dan is still far too young and immature to be able to fully love someone like Ying Yuan. Fully love here means selfless love, a love of giving without asking for return, a love that can be satisfied by the other happiness instead of her own. On the other hand, Ying Yuan is still far too stiff in his way of thinking about love. He grew up and lived under the doctrine that being in love is a sin. He also has been brain-washed into thinking that 6 world is his responsibility to wash his sin of his identity. Someone like this is unable to love freely. Thus, we have those painful episodes of them torturing each other.

I am still behind (episode 13), but all I can see from it and clips from future episodes are Yan Dan "throwing" tantrum just because she cannot get Ying Yuan "recognize" her and compensate her love somehow and Ying Yuan is busy repressed his feeling so to not alarm everyone. People here said that Ying Yuan should just told her that he knew all these time that it was her. But, Ying Yuan is someone who repressed his feeling, you just cannot ask of this from him. Moreover, Yan Dan is also supporting her sister lie. Actually, if Yan Dan can stop mopping for a moment and really think about Ying Yuan behavior, she will realize that Ying Yuan never think Zhi Xi as his savior since his conduct toward her is never the same as how he treated her (Yan Dan) during their stay in Diya.

There is a discussion regarding this in douban. Someone there said something interesting that in the end based on existing trailer, instead of forgiving him, Yan Dan will finally understand him. I think this is a good trajectory. I hope for an ending where Yan Dan will be able to accept Ying Yuan together with all his burden and responsibility and Ying Yuan will be able to show his love freely without shackled by his responsibility, that he can love and protect the realms at the same time.

I see. Chinese Palladin, hahahaha. I suspected it but the chinese name is so long. Ah, now that you mention about taoism, I kind of get it.

I agree with you. Large fanbase these days equals to crazy and toxic fans. They bring you harm more than haters.

Yes, correct. "Shouldn't be" is the keyword here. But, his acting is indeed very very good. He also has good body figure and handsome face. So perhaps some people out there feel threatened.

I meant the haters of both of them. Both Yang Zi and Cheng Yi have their own haters, hahaha.

In my opinion, traffic is a term for those who is very very popular. The one that ensure the drama he/she stars will be high rating no matter the drama quality. The easiest example for now is Xiao Zhan.

Cheng Yi is indeed getting more and more popular but I don't think he is already comparable to those with such large fanbase

Now that you mention it, I just realize that I have not seen any CP fans on the horizon. How refreshing, hahahahaha. It is good when both fandom are confident in their own idol capability and have no need to milk CP

It kind of amazing actually, hahahaha. These days, usually they pair the inexperienced youth with the senior. So, the haters usually will come only from the senior side. It is getting rare and rarer that a drama will pair both veteran actress and actor for leading pair. In this drama, both Cheng Yi and Yang Zi have their share of haters. So yeah, the effect is quite a sight.

Honestly I am quite perplexed in Cheng Yi having haters since in my mind he is not a traffic even with that great acting skill of his.