chillingindoors

Sure, feel free to reach out for more if you like these :)
I'm always happy to share & discuss dramas!

I don't consider Watashitachi Wa Douka Shiteru a mature drama. For me it was more of a melodrama. And the conclusion of the drama especially had the potential to elevate it to be more, but it was somewhat lackluster for me.. (I know many people loved it, I liked it but didn't love it)

For me, mature dramas are those that deal with "adult" situations & hard issues. They are complex & can't be looked at from a moralistic perspective alone. Also, I feel like they challenge & push you to confront certain realities that may not be easy. They are more real (and sometimes darker) than the usual stuff, & require a mature audience that can appreciate them. (Difficult to explain it but I hope you get the drift)

Disappointed to see no Japanese dramas on the list when they probably make the most mature dramas (and the best). I don't think Summer's Desire was a "mature" drama, but that's just my opinion. I will check out the other 2 you recommended, thank you.

Some mature dramas I'd like to recommend -
3 Nen A Gumi (Japan)
Before We Get Married (Taiwan)
Destiny-Like Love (Japan)
Hokuto (Japan)
Influence (Japan)
Kazoku Game (Japan)
Kaidan Botan Doro: Beauty and Fear (Japan)
Kenja No Ai (Japan)
Kono Yo No Hate (Japan)
Last Friends (Japan)
Love Shuffle (Japan)
MARS (Taiwan)
Marry Me Or Not (Taiwan)
Mother (Japan)
Omameda Towako to Sannin no Motootto (Japan)
Saka no Tochu no Ie (Japan)
Second Virgin (Japan)
Secret Love Affair (Korean)
Takane No Hana (Japan)
Never Let Me Go (Japan)
Nemureru Mori no Jukujo (Japan)
Woman (Japan)
Zeni Geba (Japan)

There are many many more... I am gonna stop here LOL

Issei, as always, is so charming here. His smile melted my heart each time <3

Damnnnn there are all kinds of people in this world..

YES please. Let's hope a subber picks this!

Hehe! I know right! That's why I was quite amazed that neither of them did that.

Wow, this is a MUST WATCH!
The honesty, genuineness and affection the leads had for each other was so moving. Not to mention, they had one of the healthiest relationships I've seen. The drama explored so much more than illness.. it was about unconditional love & self-discovery. This was so poignant, healing & beautiful in every way. An A1 drama all around - acting, cinematography, OST, and direction were all just top notch.
Seriously this is why I love Japanese dramas so so much, they take so little & give you so much (in just 6 episodes, 24 mins each)

Haha enjoy! Haru's got a lot of good dramas :)

Waiting for the subs for this is hard...

I dropped it at E3. Not interested in the rest, sorry.

It is not a bad drama. But I didn't personally enjoy it & dropped it (I do drop stuff easily) I know some others who liked it. Give it a try, you may end up liking it?

I see. Thank you so much for sharing! I did not know about this at all & was judging it from a perspective of the western legal system. I will read it and get back to you. Apologies for my ignorance.

The ending of E3. WHAT?!!!!!!

Hi Hugo! XD

I found it interesting that they didn't belittle each other during the double booking (which is very common). They just left it as you committed to me first, so you should come. Rather than going into the whole yours is just a BBQ, yours is just a fashion event, or ladies first etc etc

Its interesting.. but I find them pretty respectful even when they argue.. they're like-minded in that aspect (though they don't appear to be)

Yeah I get what you're trying to say. But it was Saki herself who offered to go to the BBQ (he didn't ask her to after he came to the party) & that's what I liked. She didn't count which was more objectively important, but rather saw it as 'we need to be equals' so if something is important to you, then it's important to me too. Like it's about respecting each other's feelings & reciprocating. Even though her event was arguably more important, she didn't think twice about leaving hers & joining his. She wanted to do something for him as well. And I liked that.

It's not always about what is more objectively important (a lot of couples end up belittling each other in this process) but rather about the fact that it is important for your partner. That's what I feel.

I agree! I'm glad they slowed down.

I think it's not a matter of objective importance.. the barbecue is important to him & the party is important to her so I was super glad that he's not the only one who made the sacrifice to come. I love that both of them constantly acknowledge each other's efforts (even though late) and make amends. They make a great pair.

I hope the whole 'but we're getting a divorce' doesn't become their thing. It would be frustrating after a point. It's bearable now but it won't after a while..

Yeah that couple was like URGH annoying. Like WHO THE HELL ARE YOU TO JUDGE HER RELATIONSHIP. HER CHOICE. Not like it's harming you.

Eita was so much more toned down. I think he eased into the role in this episode. Also the pace was better (E1 was way too fast & packed way too many twists that had the effect of turning people off rather than having them interested).. we slowed down to understand the characters.

He is very patriarchal & says things that are very uncomfortable but what makes it watchable is that he doesn't impose or force it on her. He looks stiff & rough, but seems thoughtful. Not that I'm excusing his words & even behavior but it's the way he's been brought up & taught. He looks up to his father & wants to be like him, but you can tell he isn't like him. They may look similar on the surface, but they are very different. I love the conversation he had with his father about his mum, and how he reflected that to see how he was doing the same with his wife. Sweet of him to yield & come to the party (that was quite an entry HAHAHAHA). And I love that she too went to the barbecue. It was not a one-sided thing which was the best thing ever.

I love how she used his rules against him to remind him to come with her. Now that was something I liked. I hope that she will continue to speak up & express herself. I appreciated her reflection that she was so obsessed with marriage at one point, but is now questioning what marriage really is & whether it really is all that great.

Don't have much opinion on the other characters yet but Midori's husband is such a sleeze. I can't wait for her to get rid of him. Good job on filming his affair. I like the ML's mum as well, it's nice to see her living her life.

Episode 2 was so much better. I enjoyed it much much more than the first episode. I love that both of them work towards the relationship & value each other equally. They make a great pair & I hope that the show will keep up with the potential they've shown us in E2.