JohnGotti

Syncrhonicity, you're right fans have been debating this for quite a while. I, at first thought about it as rape, given these facts, as part of the storyline dialogue: 1) Fuse continuously told Tee that he wanted to leave and go home - Tee did not do that; 2) Fuse was obviously intoxicated and Tee was not; and 3) Tee was in control of himself, and it's unsure if Fuse really knew what was going on...In my mind , sexual assault was cut and dry. Then, later, much later in fact, after reading many of the posts (pro and con), and reviewing the profiles of the actors and the characters. I started to modify my thoughts. In the series, these boys were just that "boys". I mean they were teen characters "played " by teens. Teenagers are still maturing, developing, and making their way through this world. They make mistakes, such as drinking, and having sex, as a result of drinking., and poor choices. It is easy to presume that Tee , in his immature state, thought Fuse wanted to really have sex, because Tee heard him ask the question about it. Now, should've Tee taken Fuse seriously? Probably, not. However, their still immature teenage boys. Was it rape? Probably so, technically speaking (especially in some cultures). However, Tee did acknowledged what he did and apologized the next morning, when he discovered that Tee really didn't know what happened. That showed some maturity.

Interesting perspective on the Knock and Korn "show". I tend to agree with you that some, if not many, of those posting comments "might" be projecting , as you stated. I also agree with you that when alcohol is involved, people may often make poor choices. I'm sure I made a few myself. And, probably many others may have made similar poor choices. However, I don't believe that this has to be the norm. I believe in positive change. And, I do believe that such change "can" begin with the writers and producers of these BL dramas to at least assist in portraying favorable examples of LGBTQ+ relationships. The media is a powerful tool that can help to change (or at least modify) negative societal mores, attitudes, and predjudices against the LGBTQ+ community. These BL dramas become fairly popular throughout Asia and around the world, with many people watching them. So, why not use that tool for positive change...I still hope and believe (stupidly, some may say) that the media still can be "a force for good" if allowed and encouraged to do so. I really can't see how portryaing positive relationships is a bad thing....Or am I that wrong???

Wow! Did not know this....thanks!

But, this is just one BL fan's opinion.....

Kla did a stupid, selfish, immature, shi**y and criminal thing to P'No. That's what he did. Now, if that was in the novel (I heard the series was based on a novel), shame on the writer!!! This whole "rape them and they fall in love with you" thing is just plain wrong...It sends the wrong message to everyone...And, I hope the many, many true BL fans worldwide do not think that any storyline involving sexual assault is cool....

LOL!! Yeah, and I believe the issue had to do with God Itthipat Thanit (P'Phana) 's manager not wanting him to portray anymore BL characters.....these managers must be something else! lmao....

If there's no season 2, I totally believe that there will be a remake. Just like 2Moons, LBC has been very popular and successful. Success usually means continuation...

I think they will do a season 2. Tooooo much popularity associated with it not to have one. But, if the director, writers, and actors are different, Hikari may be right....let's just hope all return for a S2!!!

LOL!

Wow! I did not know that ...thanks! Too bad! I guess that if there's going to be a season 2 at all, it may be with an all new cast...maybe...who knows!

You know, I wouldn't be surprised that a season 2 isn't in the works highlighting Tin /Can. I don't believe they (nor their managers) were involved in the "stuff" with Saint and Perth's managers. The director and writers could do a shortened season (4 or 5 episodes) and provide some closure to that relationship for the fans. Ae and Pete actually had closure (with the exception of Ae's family being informed of his relationship with Pete). I just hope they don't decide to do a season 2, but recast the main characters....

I guess everyone might view that episode differently. At first, I thought it was rape. Then read Pedro Guida's post and went back to view it again, The second time, I was watching far more intensely than I did the first time. Now, I stand by my original post. And, although it does appear, as you stated, Knock didn't resist. It appeared to me that Korn initiated the action, knowing full well they were both drunk, and it appeared as though HE knew what he was doing,. And by Knock's reaction in the morning, Knock apparently did NOT want to or intend to have sex with Korn. It always scares me when people purposely have (or try to have) sex with other people when they're drunk. I think that is seriously crossing the line. But, unfortunately, it happens quite a lot in real life, and not just in BL dramas.....

Wouldn't that be an interesting plot twist!!! lmao, too!!

Good point about the demographics of the writers! I really didn't think about like that....You're probably right. But, as I stated in my last post, I'm sure the writers and the director are likely going to have Knock do something equally as "stupid" and "wrong" as Korn did , so they can be back on "even " ground....and how more contrived can you get than that...That's the way it appears in next week's preview (with Knock in bed with Pete)...again, give me a break...

I can probably guess how this story plays out. If the previews from next week are any indication, Knock appears to be going down the same path that Korn went, possibly sleeping with Pete (revenge sex). Then Korn will find out and be angry with him. This will go on for the next few episodes and eventually they'll get back together in the end, as if all is forgiven. It will totally make the fans go wild. And, if the rest of the story does play out something like this, then it will prove how contrived these plots really are......but, it'll be entertaining...lol

YOU GOT THAT RIGHT!!!!!

I just went back and watched ep. 1 of TWM. I agree with you that they were both drunk. However, I'm still not so sure that both wanted to have sex. In that scene, Korn initiated the encounter and apparently knew that he was intending on doing (as supported by his response to Korn in the morning). But, it's not clear, at least to me, that Knock was a "willing" participant or even knew what was happening to him. Being drunk can do that, which is the reason it's never cool to have sex or even try to have sex with someone who is in that state. I realize that it's probably done all the time in dramas. But, it still sends that wrong message...

Thanks! I guess I have to give P'New his due.... But, directors do not have to always bring everything from the book on the screen...

I think it's "overrated". Pedro Guida's points regarding contrived plots, badly written dialog, and inconsistent characterizations are right on point. Some directors and writers (certainly not all) seem to make the mistake that a "drama" can't have some resemblance of realism, with "real characters" portryaing "realistic" life situations and it still be enjoyable drama. And, BTW, "real life" can be as "dramatic" as it gets.....

Oh, I had forgotten that. Thanks! BTW, I've not read any of the books. So, if P.'New was simply following the book, then I'll have to rethink my comment about he and the writers.