JohnGotti

I totally agree! And, I also like the series...it's entertaining, if nothing else. I thought the first series was also entertaining. I just wish the writers (next time) give us just a little more back story, and few less tropes and stereotypes. Perhaps, 2 Moons 3????

Beam and Forth having sex was just too much for me (even if it was in the book). There was NO indicating of that kind of relationship between them. And, it appeared that the book and series continues the same old trope of a guy getting drunk, upset about a relationship, and has sex with another individual. OH, and by the way, the person getting drunk is ALWAYS "bottoming" for the other person. I realize the writers are probably catering to those cheering , adoring , female fans, but, storylines like these are always (at least for me) a bit too much, because it relies totally on tropes and stereotypes to tell the story.

I kind of agree with you. Again, I don't get why Beam would "bottom" out of nowhere!!! I still don't understand how the writers of these BL novels and stories come up with this mess. In a lot of the BL series and novels, the guy with girlfriend or the guy who is "hurt" seems to always be the one "bottoming" for the other partner, and it's almost always after a drunken binge where the one "bottoming" is the one who get's drunk. Where do the writers come up with this mess!!! LOL

Now, book 2 is a bit different. It takes place 8 years later. Bai You Lin is now a major in the Chinese Air Force, and Gu Hai is the President/CEO of his own company. The story does pick up with where Book 1 left off (they split up in the end due to alot of issues). Bai You Lin leaves Gu Hai. Now, fast forward 8 years later -- they meet again when the Chinese Air Force has a military contract with Gu Hai's company. I thought it was an interesting story, and Bai You Lin and Gu Hai end up happliy ever after (and married!) -- which I thought was a great ending to that storyline. However, the part I had trouble with (as I did in Book 1), was the fact that the author of the books relies too heavily of out-of-date tropes regarding LGBTQ+ relationships. For example, the "wifey" references, as well as , the idea that only the bigger, apparently stronger person is automatically the "top" and the other person is authmatically the "bottom" in the relationship. Unforthunately, you find that in a great many BL series, and that's just so sad, because it reinforces all those stereotypes about couple in the LGBTQ+ community. I realize it's just fiction, and written mainly for the girls who are interested in BL material. But, the writers could at least try to infuse a little bit of realism.

Actually, that part is kind of vague in the book 1. Gu Hai and his father sort of come to an understanding. The same is said for Bai You Lin and his mother. All the parents (as well as their high school friends) eventually discover the relationship and have difficulty with it at first (except for Bai You Lin's dad). But, if you're asking if Bai You Lin and Gu Hai end up together, the answer is yes, but this is at the end of book 2.

Yep! But, that is in the book. If they were to make a season 2, I would sincerely hope that the director and producers either re-write that scene, or eliminate it entirely. Then, the rest of the story would flow pretty darn good with a great ending....

You call being brutally raped and humiliated a masterpiece of writing!!!!???? I really don't understand some folks out there in "BL land." I realize that all of this is just entertainment and fantasy, BUT COME ON!

However, if they do a season 2, leave out "that" part or even completely rewrite that scene , it would make for a great sequel....

Thanks! I'm glad someone out there (besides myself) sees that this kind of behavior is not ok...

Thanks!

Let me clarify my position on the series. I also liked TWM and was anticipating just as good or better with TWMNC. However, it just didn't live up to the first one. The writers and directors spent way too much time on old "tropes" and outdated stereotypes, outdated views on how relationships could be, and overly dramatized ALL the negative aspects of how people interact. TRUE! Much of what occurred in the series might be currently happening in real life, and quite possibly in ours or someone else' lives. And, with the popularity the series was getting, it was obviously influencing alot of fans, as evidenced by the many varied responses. Even though it is just another BL drama, it had the opportunity to raise awareness to alot of LGBTQ+ issues, as well as relationship issues in general. The series could've portrayed the couples and the issues they faced with a little more reality, a more sensitivity, and a little more humility. Instead, it seemed that the director and writers played to the fan base instead of sticking to the original story (TWM).

For these (and because the series had potential and wasted it) I rated it low and stated, like many others, that this series was nothing more than a "train wreck." If there is a third season of TWM, I would hope that the director and writers have learned from Season 2, and NOT make the same mistake again.

I did like the storyline of the ending. However, I couldn't get past the rape and humiliation BYL suffered at the hands of GH. It was just sooooo disturbing. I know that it's just a BL novel. But, I think that glamorizing rape as a way of showing your "love" for someone is a sick and twisted notion, and it sets relationships, especially LGBTQ+ relationships, backwards. It might be a cultural issue that I do not fully understand. But, I would hope that Thai, Korean, Japanese, Chinese, Loatian, Vietnamese, and any other eastern Asiatic cultures, would progress beyond these types of tropes and behaviors.

Like many of you, I really liked the series, even though the behavior of Gu Hai was a bit much (like the whole Bai Lou Yin kidnapping scene) near the end. But, little did I know that this was just a prelude to much more disturbing stuff. Now, unlike many of you, I don't want a season 2, if it's going to closely follow the book, like season 1. In the book, after the return of Shi Hui [Bay Luoyin's Ex-Girlfirend], Gu Hai becomes so insanely jealous and possessive of Bai Lou Yin that he forces his head into a sink filled with water, blindfolds him, ties his hand behind his back and BRUTALLY RAPES him! The rape is so brutal that Bai You Lin passes out due to the pain and requires medical attention. Furthermore, during the rape, Gu Hai texts Shi Hui to come to their location -- when she arrives, she 's forced to witness the rape, further humiliating Bai You Lin! Then once the rape is over, THEN Gu Hai begins to feel remorse and wants to be a "loving and caring" person to Bai You Lin by getting him a doctor and caring for him while he recovers from the rape. AND, in the end, after all that Gu Hai had just done to him, Bai You Lin confronts Shi Hui and confesses his love for Gu Hai! I'm sorry! But, this kind of story is DISTURBING on sooooooo many levels. And I would hope that the many BL fans in and around Asia (and the rest of the world) surely don't think that this is an appropriate way for relationships to begin. People who truly love and care for you don't brutalize and humiliate you like Gu Hai does to Bai You Lin....At the very minimum, Bai You Lin should've had Gu Hai arrested -- or at least, cut his manhood (penis) off!

I totally agree!!!

Good point! And, I do see similar to you. But, If I recall, he was only willing to confess, when things seemed to be "closing in" on him with Knock finding out. All I wanted to see was this -- Korn confessing right after he cheated, admitting to Knock why he made the made the mistake, ask for forgiveness, confess that he had betrayed Knock and their relationship, and that he was willing whatever it takes to rebuild his trust, that should've at least been injured. That would've made a good storyline .

My favorite of the series was #3, Tee and Mork. I thought the storyline was cute and reminded me a traditional romcom (romantic comedy). It was light -hearted, entertaining and made you feel good at the end. It also allowed Tee and Mork's characters to mature from the time Cause You 're My Boy. The relationship was out in the open, their family and friends knew of their relationship (as well as showed loving support), and the characters definitely were more comfortable with their sexuality.

I really didn't understand #1 or #4, Pick/Rome and Pete/Kao. Their storylines were a little disjointed to me and it was difficult to relate them to what had happened in the original series.

Episode #2, with Sun and In was enjoyable, again light-hearted and had a slight romcom feel to it. Just not as good as Tee and Mork.

Now for episode #5, Krist/Singto or Arthit/Kongpope as we've come to know them. I liked the storyline, it was very emotional, and I agree with the other posts that this episode really pushed Krist's acting skills to an all-new high. Singto, however, seemed a little stilted to me. I didn't see nearly as much emotion as was seen to Sotus, and Sotus S. To me, it almost seemed as if he didn't really want to play the part again. But, I might be wrong. I just think his character was so much stronger in the two previous series. But, I did like the story line and how the two carried their performances. As much as I liked Krist's acting skills in this episode, I really did not like how much his character had changed since Sotus. In Sotus, Krist's P'Arthit character was strong, intelligent, devoted to tradition and honor, compassionate, loyal, and secretly deeply emotional. And, in the end, he became more comfortable with his sexuality and his potential relationship with Kongpope, even telling his friends about their relationship. In Sotus S, Krist's chracter was weak, timid, slightly insecure, afraid of what other's might think, and definitely not comfortable with himself, his sexuality and his relationship to Kongpope. Although, he showed courage during the last episode of Sotus S, I just didn't understand how his character could change so much in a couple of years (which is the timeline of the series). It seemed as if instead of his character progressing (after two years), that in fact his character regressed. I wonder how Sotus S and Our Skyy #5 would have been, if Krist's character were allowed to continue the progression started in Sotus; The Series????

@Synchronicity

I don't recall seeing this post. I'm sorry. If I had, I would've commented sooner. So, I will comment now, and hope someday you see it. The issue for me is not the "emotional" or "physical" actions of cheating; it remains the "trust" of the relationship. It should be (but, unfortunately not always so) that when you're in a committed relationship with someone, apart from the love that you have for that other person, there is the "trust" you have IN that other person. Trust that the person will treat you with love and respect; Trust that the person will not intentionally hurt or harm you; Trust that the person will be there for you as you are there for the other person; Trust that you're both in the relationship together; and Trust that when one person doesn't do the previous "trusts", Trust that the person will be honorable enough, respectful enough, or loving enough to be honest and upfront with you, so you have a more realistic way of getting through what may have occurred to threaten the "trust".

Although, as you've pointed out "it's just a BL drama for enjoyment", it did hit upon some realistic overtures in the LGBTQ+ community, and I think it would've been nice to see the writers and director handle the series with the idea of showing a more positive, instead of contrived, way gay couples could behave. In the series, the issue with Korn's cheating that bothered me was that he cheated, then lied about it, purposely planned with Cho to keep Knock from finding out, allowed everyone in their circle to know about the cheating (except Knock), and only confessed when someone else had told Knock. Even if it were possible that Korn "made a mistake" and slept with Pete, he willingly did everything else. Now, even with all of this, there is room for forgiveness. But, rebuilding "trust", that's a different issue entirely. I just would've like to have seen the writers treat that part of the relationship a little more realistically, and the series would've received a much higher rating from. me.

Wow! It's amazing how you, Pedro Guida, Synchonicty, and myself often have the same opinions about the various BL dramas....again, WOW!

Yep! Totally! If done right (allowing Mork and Tee to continue to grow and mature -- with an occasional, but workable trial, as any relationship may face), this could a really good RomCom series for the BL genre....

I totally agree! I also think it was the best of the series. Ep. 5 with Krist and Singto was dramatic, and probably what a "real" BL drama should be. But, Ep. 3 was the quintessential RomCom! It was lighhearted, stuck to an understanble plotline, and made you feel "real" good at the end....classic RomCom. And, most folks like a good romantic comedy. But, the thing I liked most is the fact that Mork and Tee's characters, as well as the relationship of the characters was allowed to grow and mature (even if just for a little). The series was a little silly at times...but this episode was definitely "more grown -up".