JohnGotti

Now, now, Flypsyde. You know we can all disagree without being disagreeable. Ooops! I forgot. It's that darn "SJW" in me again. LMBO!

I'm totally with you!!!!

I also agree, especially about UP. The only thing that continues to bother me is Gene's character. I'm guessing the character is written that way in the novel. But, I'm not feeling it. Gene is supposed to be at least (5) older than Sib, but continues to act like a little child. Up is playing the character great -- I just don't like his character. Just exactly who's the "little brother?"

No prob! Those darn Americans and their "english" will get you every time. LMBO!

LOL! Not being clever, just accurate. I guess that would be the "ups" and "downs" of this argument (noun informative). Now I will "up" and leave this conversation and go "down" a nice beer (verb informative). I think it's someone else's attempt at being clever. LMBO!

LOL! Cause you "may" have a point. If I believe the issue is worthy, yes, I'll argue. And, as for UP and DOWN, are you referring to those words as adverbs, prepositions, adjectives, verbs, or nouns? They can be each. But, then again, I would guess I would only be referring to their "English" designations. Hmmm! Doesn't seem so "basic" to me....

LMBO! I never stated it was news to me, just complex. And, there's never truly anything "basic" to "any" concept, that's a perception.

This is an interesting recitation. I'm not quite sure if I agree, disagree, or even totally comprehend its meaning. However, what I do comprehend, if I may be so bold as to state, is that issues such as "rape", "pedophilia", and "narrow-mindedness" are very complex and complicated issues when speaking of the social behaviors of various cultural groups. Because, you are right. What could be considered "abhorred" by one cultural group, may be completely acceptable to another cultural group. BTW This is my SJW way of stating that you may have a point, even if I may disagree with it. LOL

LMBO! I never thought of myself as SJW! Wow! Things for me are moving up in the world! HaHaHa!

I'm still smh! I can get that Xing Si may have internalized issues with his sexuality. OK. But, I don't get how that justifies Yong Jie stalking him, breaking into his house, beating up his roommate, and getting him drunk and "raping" him to "help" him???? I know it's just a drama. But, that is some really sick behavior on the part of Yong Jie. I'm sure the series will have their relationship ending with a soapy, happy ending. But, I'm sorry. IMO, that would be a very toxic relationship (without some serious resolutions to some very serious issues), unworthy of the HIStory franchise.

Totally agree. This first ep. was light-hearted, funny, and easy to follow. I, too, hope folks can get past the "He's All That" setup. But, I would also like to see in this series some character development that show's Pi's "inner" qualities versus his outward looks. Too many series (BL and non-BL) focus on a person's "low" self-image of themselves as a lead-in to the story. Pi had a good self-image, and then gave in to peer pressure. I hope down the line the series shows, at least in some little way, you don't have to change to be liked.

Yeah. I agree. I wish the writers had concentrated more (in the flashbacks) how Gene became so "introverted" and such a "loner", when clearly in these flashbacks, he was not..... Did he discover his emerging sexuality, did he think things with him and Nubsib had grown to be a "little too close" in that stage of their young lives??? Any angle like this could've worked and made for a better flashback ep. What's really disturbing to me is the sudden re-emergence of all of these "step-brother" love theme tropes! I'm not sure this is a good theme (trope) to be exploring during these pandemic trying times, when so many are on "lock down."

You know! Had the writers of "The Lovely Writer" hadn't been so lazy in "their" writing, this could've been a pretty good ep. For example, had they clearly clarified that Gene was portraying a "big brother" role to Nubsib and Nubsib was romantically smitten with Gene (especially after taking the beating for him), it would've made a lot more sense and not so pedophilia-like..... Just my op.

LMBO!!!!

I'm sorry for LMBO! I was just commenting that it was neat to see someone gay play someone who's gay... Didn't mean to stir anyone's panties up! LOL ฉันขอโทษ!

I wish they hadn't deleted that scene with Gao She Di and Zhou Shu Yi in Gao's office. That was actually a very cute and revealing scene. But, I'm glad I got to see it, even as an outtake.

I'm right there with ya! It's scary that some of the folks actually think stuff like this cutesy, romantic, etc.! Wow!

I'm so glad someone else pointed out the things that I, too, was thinking and wondering about. For all the reasons you cited, the "flashbacks" were kind of disturbing on soooo many levels, even if the producers and director was trying to be cutesy. And, to the critics commenting about the BLs needing spicing up, I'm sure (at least I'm hoping) no one was thinking about quasi-pedophilia!

Totally! HIStory has gone from "heartwarming" to "heart-wrenching." But, many folks like it "heart-wrenching." LMBO!

Let me see! Possible drunk rape trope, stalking, breaking-and-entering, possible suicidal behavior, drugged employee (assaulted), masturbation, closeted gay step-brother, fujoshi office staff, mother aware of her son's disturbing behavior, father unaware of his closeted son, and two roommates pretending to be "shipped" together. Hmmm! Did I leave anything out? HIStory is really coming alive now!